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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Billboard Magazine Review - 1981
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on: January 21, 2016, 09:15:50 AM
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I can remember how weird it was back in 81-82 to see these kind of reviews with Carl Wilson touring solo and the Beach Boys playing somewhere else. On this occasion, they were actually reviewed in the same issue of Billboard. And since it was the Greek Theatre incident for the Beach Boys, it was not good.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Single mixes, etc.
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on: December 27, 2015, 05:18:39 PM
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FUN FUN FUN -45 mix is on SOS. DON'T WORRY BABY - 45 mix full version with long fade on Starbuck's SUMMER CRUSH. CALIFORNIA GIRLS - 45 mix full version with long fade on Reader's Digest GREATEST HITS. DO IT AGAIN - 45 mix on SOS, GREATEST HITS Volume 1.
That's of the top of my head.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love's birthday message to Carl
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on: December 25, 2015, 11:54:53 AM
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Mike talks about Al Jardine:
... And I told Al... we had a rough time the last couple of years communicating. He's definitely been on a bummer for many years based on some things that have happened to him historically. Different than what happened to me with Brian with respect to the writing but a similar effect on him emotionally. And me, I ignore it and go straight ahead and I think more of the future. Al has this thing where he'll obsess on something that happened 20 years ago. It's hard for him to let go.
So we've actually been having group meetings between Carl, myself and Al with the psychiatrist Howard Bloomfield, who's a good friend of mine and a board member of the Love Foundation, and we've done a lot of healing kind of things, airing grievances and working things out. It's been very therapeutic for all of us individually and collectively. I think we've gotten to understand each other and see the other's point of view and experience and it's made the group better and stronger.
That confirms a report i heard a little while back that Al Jardine had left the Beach Boys.
We got to the point where we didn't want to be in the same room or on stage with him because he was so negative about things. He was negative about certain things and once we were able to get into a forum, an area where he was able to unload some of that, we could empathize with some of it, not all of it, and air our points of view and it resolved all that stuff.
Are you getting along better now?
A lot better. But the point is he wasn't even on the album until a couple of months ago when we finally resolved all the stuff. Then he came in and I told Al he made a good song great. It's not that we couldn't do an album and do it well without Al Jardine around. Or the same goes for anybody. You're talking the Beach Boys, you're going to get someone to listen anyway. But on several songs it went from good to great. And Carl, God, he's a monster on the album. I think he sounds phenomenal, the most commercial he's ever sounded.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Randell Kirsch
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on: December 24, 2015, 08:34:48 PM
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I liked Randall and Adrian both. But both had a more Frankie Vallie style of falsetto where Jeff and Brian sound more like Brian Wilson (as does Matt Jardine). Frank had a more nasal whine in his voice. Brian's was rich and full.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Top Five Favorite Beach Boy Tunes
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on: November 04, 2015, 02:44:27 PM
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Was looking over some O-L-D emails from 2005 when I can upon a request from Bob Hanes to name my top 5 fave tunes. I had never really thought about it before. Here was the list I gave him (after #1, the order isn't really important):
1. A Tie-Heroes And Villains (SMiLE version) / Do It Again 2. Surf's Up 3. Good Vibrations 4. God Only Knows 5. California Girls
The way I came to this conclusion back then was to think "What songs do I never skip on either the radio/CD. These were the ones. And I always liked H&V but was never crazy about it. Then the 1990 SS/WH CD came out with the cantina version and I was gone. That version kicks ass. Brian's vocal is so forceful. The release version sounds like someone being mellow and just kinda grooving on a joint.
Let's here what everyone else has on their list. All you OLD TIMERS like me jump in.
Bob
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Missing 45 master tapes.
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on: September 11, 2015, 11:06:31 AM
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This got me thinking about the latest round of Analogue Productions reissues, where it was discovered by listeners that some of the songs on those albums that were picked as singles were sourced from lesser generations because the original masters had been moved over to isolated reels or phono reels that were later discarded. I'm not sure of the exact songs (I seem to remember "Little Deuce Coupe being mentioned) but am I right in thinking that the procedure Capitol/ Brian used at the time was to remix the songs once they had been cut from the LP reel and transferred, thus the variations in overall sound between LP vs. singles pressings? It would cool to get to the bottom of all this.
I just got one of the Analogue Productions LPs in the mail today. It shows pictures of the back of the tape boxes for the mono mix of Surfer Girl and Surfin' Safari LPs. Each box has some interesting markings on a few songs- Surfer Girl (Replaced 5-4-67) Surfin Safari (Back In 5-4-67) Surfin' (Back In 5-4-67) What the heck was going on in May of 1967? Was Brian trying to cut up his old master tapes while setting the Smile tapes on fire at the same time? [/quote] Sounds like when the Capitol Star Line relreases were done. Just putting that out there. Can you put up scans of the tape box covers. I live for that stuff .
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Missing 45 master tapes.
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on: September 10, 2015, 09:44:09 PM
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Single version of Fun Fun Fun has the organ in the break pushed up louder than the regular mono version. Listen to GH 1 and then Sounds Of Summer. SOS has the 45 mix.
I just checked. The correct version of DWB 45 mix is also on the Summer Crush CD from Starbucks.
I know about Fun Fun Fun, but you mentioned Shut Down too in you post. I checked all the albums and CD's that I have and they all (mono's) sound pretty much the same to me. I think Bob meant that the "Fun, Fun, Fun" on the Reader's Digest collection uses the SHUT DOWN VOL. II mono LP version instead of the 45 version. Lee Thanks Lee. The RD, Made In USA, and GH Volume 1 all use the mono fun fun fun from Shut Down Vol. 2. So do so many others. As I said earlier, I wish they would have been more careful assembling these comps.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Missing 45 master tapes.
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on: September 10, 2015, 08:53:03 AM
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Single version of Fun Fun Fun has the organ in the break pushed up louder than the regular mono version. Listen to GH 1 and then Sounds Of Summer. SOS has the 45 mix.
I just checked. The correct version of DWB 45 mix is also on the Summer Crush CD from Starbucks.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Missing 45 master tapes.
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on: September 10, 2015, 08:36:58 AM
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Ok, you guys made me go back to look at all of my CDs with California Girls on them (the original mono mix). Strangely enough, even though it uses some of the wrong 45 mixes (mono Shut Down Fun Fun Fun), the original Reader's Digest 2 CD set from the 1980's uses the 45 mix of California Girls. Cue's up at 2:47 running time and has the longer fade out.
BTW, the GH's 1-3 from 1999 are some really great sounding CDs. Was always weird that the wrong version of Fun Fun Fun got on there.
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