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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling Stone review of No Pier Pressure \
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on: March 29, 2015, 07:45:12 AM
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I once, as a wee lad, believed in the hype about Rolling Stone. I do thank them for steering me to MURMUR by REM back in '83, but other than that I have come to view the "rag" with much distaste. I remember having their record guide, and back then they rated the Beach Boys overall very poorly (Pet Sounds only had three stars back then, even though they now wet themselves over it) and some of the glaring errors in reviews pissed my young righteous self off to no end - for example, Dave "I can't be bothered to actually listen to the records I am reviewing" Marsh claiming that Girl From NYC was a cover of the Ad Libs song (as opposed to what it really is - an answer song, and a great one at that). Then there's Yawn Whiner and his elitist R&RHOF.....
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone's In Love With You
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on: March 15, 2015, 03:17:08 PM
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I have to agree with the dissenters on this one. Not everyone is in love with you, no, not by a long stretch! Clumsy lyrics seem to stumble all over the exceedingly trite, gag inducing melody like a drunken Bigfoot through the village of Lilliput. The vocals reek of smarmy insincerity. Sorry Mike, but even you could, and have, done better than this. Oh, and yes, YOU'RE UNDER ARREST!!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Best \
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on: March 08, 2015, 04:58:50 AM
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One of my favorites was "Good Vibrations - The Best Of The Beach Boys" (cover had a wave crashing over a rock). Was my first introduction to some of the mid to late sixties and early 70's tracks. It was a good one.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Crosby on Mike Love
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on: March 06, 2015, 06:28:41 PM
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nope. but look around for the PERRO sessions/outtakes.
Also, you might like parts of Paul Kantner/Jefferson Starship's 'Blows Against the Empire', made with much the same cast of characters.
Thanks for the heads up. Listening to the Perro sessions right now - like it very much. "Blows Against The Empire" is one of those albums I have heard people recommend all my life but have yet to actually give it a listen. I'll cue that up next.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Crosby on Mike Love
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on: March 06, 2015, 03:02:26 PM
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I just listened to this album (If Only I Could Remember My Name) earlier today - it was wonderful as pure music to have playing in the background. It struck me not so much as an album of "songs", but more an overall vibe from start to finish. Not quite sure how to express what I mean, but I was happily surprised by this, not something I'd ever heard before. Are any of his other solo albums like this?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1975 LP fan mix
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on: February 22, 2015, 04:56:30 PM
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I really liked this. It worked well as a cohesive listening experience. I found myself thinking, if they had released this, or something similar, back then instead of 15BO - wow, they would have had a truly credible album that may very well have been a huge popular success. It's a good example of how they could have maintained a thriving "new music" career, while still embracing their past and pleasing the fans that wanted to hear those songs too. Anyway, well done.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Intellectual Dishonesty Regarding SMiLE
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on: February 14, 2015, 11:10:47 AM
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I don't think it's too far of a stretch to say BW had some religious/spiritual connection and/or longing within him prior to acid, and for him (IMO) it was all in and about the music he loved and the music he made - always. It could be said he was attempting to work this into his music since (nearly) the beginning of the groups career. Acid could maybe only be said to have widened that canvas, shown him new possibilities (as well as raising new questions). So, acid wasn't the seed, it was only an aid (out of many) which assisted in the direction/means of how the seed grew (meaning "religious/spiritual" informed music). I think people get bogged down on the "acid" part of all this, as if the acid itself was the point BW was getting at by making this new church music. I honestly don't think the core spiritual message/theme (whatever) was the acid, yet there's no denying it's influence in the music created. I don't know if I am expressing my thoughts clearly, and probably doesn't matter if i am or not, I guess.
Wilson was correct when he said that the future of rock/pop music would be spiritual, or at least he was correct for a time, as the late sixties/early seventies is rife with songs/albums that are certainly exactly that.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Lorren Daro Thread
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on: January 27, 2015, 02:47:15 PM
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One persons "trivial" may be another's "meaningful". If he doesn't know the answer to something or feels it is beneath him (or whatever) to address it, that's fine - don't answer it, but there's no need to be insulting those who are asking questions is there? Just because you feel they aren't worthy enough questions? As far as I have seen so far there hasn't been anything "deep" being presented. This is being blamed on the questions being posed, but maybe it's just a matter of there not being much depth there in the first place. All I have read thus far is the same old "people around Brian (family/wife/record company) were not nice to him and he wasn't allowed to flourish, etc. All that may very well be true - but it's nothing new or deep. Sorry if you don't appreciate my post here, but I am little rankled by some of this crap. I will excuse myself from any further participation in this thread. So please carry on you miners of gems, you lofty, deep thinkers
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Lorren Daro Thread
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on: January 23, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
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"SenorPotatoHead: Yes, sentimentality. As opposed to sentiment. Two very different things. Isaiah Berlin once wrote that sentimentality is the cause of all the violence in the world."
Right. Now that you mention it, I have witnessed a particularly large amount of hostility in the produce section of the market.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: Lorren Daro thread
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on: January 23, 2015, 05:49:53 AM
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Mr. Daro - I appreciate your reply to my, admittedly not all that important question regarding Vega-Tables. I do see your point somewhat, it is a pretty screwed up world, but maybe that's why taking a moment to have some just plain fun is worthwhile? I don't know, I guess I have always looked at Vega-Tables as akin to say, Yellow Submarine by that other band . Perhaps it is also that I remember first hearing Vega-Tables as a child and, like Yellow Submarine, was a particular favorite at that time. Sentimentality, I suppose. What can I say? Anyway, vegetables are good for us!
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: Daro thread pulled ?
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on: January 22, 2015, 12:22:46 PM
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I would like to suggest also, the idea that "being right" or "correct" as far as ones opinions on nouns (e.g. people, places and things) such as Daro has presented, is often dependent on each persons particular view point/perspective. Meaning: when it comes to events that happen there is often not simply one black and white "truth" to it.
Not to pick on Marilyn at all, but by way of example: in the moment and time of some of these events she may have impressed some people as, shall we say - "not at her best". Even though really, and particularly NOW, she is very likely an incredibly sweet and wonderful human being. We really are all "heroes and villains". This human condition we all inhabit is a ridiculously intricate, nuanced and malleable thing. There could never be a coin with enough sides to flip on the variables involved.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: Daro thread pulled ?
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on: January 22, 2015, 09:23:00 AM
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Concerning the lyric issue: he did, it seemed to me, acknowledge his error on this, or at least his error in how he worded himself, in his last, long, post. It seems incredible to me that just in these past few days we suddenly have Lorren Daro, Mike Love and Brian Wilson all presenting themselves here. This is really by chance, coincidence, synchronicity? Now that's groovy! This is the most exciting thing to happen on this board since....since....well, for me, ever! Agreements with others though who have stated that we can all have a discussion without resorting to truly repugnant means of expression. There are ways to express negative/contrary opinions and/or thoughts without being stupid and foul mouthed. Question for Lorren: What have you against Vega-Tables, exactly? That it is, seemingly, a silly, child-like song? Does everything need to be so serious and lofty? What about some good old fashioned goofy, silly fun? Just asking.
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