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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did The Beach Boys Play To Segregated Audiences on: September 16, 2020, 08:56:13 AM
For ML $$ trumps (pun intended) scruples, basic human decency, et al. 
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Archie salutes Beach Boys on: July 01, 2020, 07:00:20 AM
so Jughead and Reggie would would be on the back and represent Dennis and Carl? 
So which of them would be Jughead and which Reggie?  Smiley
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The trainwreck that is The 50th ann. CD on: June 08, 2020, 07:54:35 AM
The "reunion" was (IMO) a failed opportunity.  It came as no surprise that it was crap, but still I had hopes they could be their ages and make real music as the old men they now are.  Instead we get the "Let's autotune and over produce this thing so we can capture 1965 again!"   Yay, only nope.  It's fake and sickening.  I love the BB's for what I love about them.  BW is one of the greatest musical entities of the 20th century - unfortunately saddled with the stupid marketing/image yoke that has continually suppressed and limited his scope.  He has done wondrous music, for which I am grateful, but allowed to simply be a creator without all the baggage, he might have done so much more.    Just look at what Dylan has been able to do in his elderly years - love him or not, he's been true to himself and done as he wished with no compunction to be the Bob of 1965.   

Are you referring to just the live album or the entire 50th reunion itself? 

I am referring to the studio album. 
In reading comments here, people keep talking about "breaking new ground" - and that isn't what I mean in my criticisms of the album.  It's not about breaking new ground.  What new ground is anyone breaking these days as far as popular music goes?  I don't expect the BB's or any other older artist to be cutting edge or breaking new ground - all I want to hear is an honest, genuine expression of their art as they are now, not some c*ck up of what they were 55 years ago.  I want their voices, not auto-tuned b.s., etc.  There's often too much adherence to whatever "image" these older acts feel they had.  My wish is that they had stepped out of that yoke and recognized that ultimately it isn't the image that draws the audience - it's the music.  You don't have to ignore the image, you can touch upon it, but what were you before the image?  You were a group of guys who loved to sing harmony.  Are you now not old men who still love to sing harmony?  Good!  I love harmony, whether boys in their 20's or men in their 70's - I want to hear those voices as they are NOW.   I don't know if I am expressing my thoughts very well, but basically I would have loved an album of them around a piano (and maybe a few other instruments) singing together as well as they are now able.  Maybe that wouldn't have sold, but I would have bought it. 
Dylan has been brought up in this thread - and no, Dylan isn't breaking new ground or anything - but to me, he comes through as genuine as who, what and where he is now.  I like that, and from my perspective he succeeds.  He is one of the only older artists I find meaningful simply because he is what he is.  He's not gilding his lily.   
Anyway, this is all just my personal preferences and whatnot.  Doesn't make me "right" (it's just right for me) and no one need agree.   
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The trainwreck that is The 50th ann. CD on: May 27, 2020, 06:19:26 AM
The "reunion" was (IMO) a failed opportunity.  It came as no surprise that it was crap, but still I had hopes they could be their ages and make real music as the old men they now are.  Instead we get the "Let's autotune and over produce this thing so we can capture 1965 again!"   Yay, only nope.  It's fake and sickening.  I love the BB's for what I love about them.  BW is one of the greatest musical entities of the 20th century - unfortunately saddled with the stupid marketing/image yoke that has continually suppressed and limited his scope.  He has done wondrous music, for which I am grateful, but allowed to simply be a creator without all the baggage, he might have done so much more.    Just look at what Dylan has been able to do in his elderly years - love him or not, he's been true to himself and done as he wished with no compunction to be the Bob of 1965.   
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did SMiLE Have A Release Date? on: March 16, 2020, 08:26:26 AM
There was a projected release date of Jan 15.

Which is the day I was born in '67.  Instead of Smile the world got me!   LOL
Sorry guys.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love’s Home \ on: March 08, 2020, 10:12:08 AM
Yeah, it's fancy, but honestly these types of places are so gaudy and gross.  You're uber rich and why not live nicely, but (and maybe it's just the declining times we inhabit these days) this just strikes me as so.....frivolous.   One could do so much with tons of money, is living like some emperor really necessary?  Meh, blah and whatever.  Not impressed.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wash Your Hands to The Beach Boys on: March 08, 2020, 10:03:06 AM
"Wash the germs off your hands, Stan"
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How many corporate/private gigs have The BBs/ Brian done in their careers? on: February 17, 2020, 10:08:38 AM
Since the other petition thread is locked, I guess I'll ask this here. How many people on this board are meat-eaters?

Trophy hunting has NOTHING to do with eating meat.  It's about micro-penises who can only feel "manly" by murdering something and hanging its head on the wall, laying its pelt on the floor or using its hoof as an ashtray or trash bucket.  They take their "trophy" and leave the rest of the animal to go to waste (or best case scenario maybe the local people utilize the remainder of the carcass).  And no, I do not eat meat. 
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How many corporate/private gigs have The BBs/ Brian done in their careers? on: February 04, 2020, 06:17:14 AM
I signed the petition.  Mike Love is an uber piece of crap.  The Trumps?  Trophy hunting?  Listen, I can respect ones "right" to hunt (I guess) and Mike's Beach Boys right to play whatever gig they choose to - but trophy hunting is a ghastly excuse for cruel f*cks to commit murder and this gig is a stain on the bands legacy.  That is all purely my opinion of course, but this really disgusts me and yes, I despise the Trumps and I sincerely pray that on Donny Jr and Eric's next murder spree of innocent animals the animals turn the tables and tear the two of them to pieces.   Angry
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quentin Tarantino Prepping New Movie Tackling Manson Murders on: August 11, 2019, 07:00:00 AM
Loved the film.  That ending was cathartic, though sad too as it wasn't (obviously) what really happened. 
Repeated viewings are in order.  Good on yer, Quentin.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: August 11, 2019, 06:56:20 AM
The non sped up Caroline No is the way to go (IMO).   It makes no sense to speed it up.  You don't want the character of the song sounding younger because it's a guy reflecting back on something that he now feels is irrevocably lost.  If Pet Sounds is a guys journey from youthful hope to adult resignation then CN ought to sound mature (and I say that lightly because Brian still sounds young in the non-sped up version) because the guy has grown - through experience and heart break, etc.  Murry was wrong, Brian (gasp!) was wrong and all of you who like the sped up version are wrong!  lol Tongue
And Don't Worry Baby is NOT a car song either.  
So there.  
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Cease To Exists Question on: May 12, 2019, 11:32:49 AM
Manson may have been whatever Manson was (criminal, cult leader, murderer, patsy?) 
I think he also was a reasonably talented busker who came up with some good songs (Cease To Exist being one of them).
I can appreciate that while not necessarily appreciating the rest of what he was involved in. 
Just as I can still appreciate Phil Spectors productions, and Jim Gordon's musicianship, etc.
Even Lucifer played a kickass fiddle.   Violin

13  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Entertainment Thread / Re: Favorite Comic book movies on: March 04, 2018, 12:35:41 PM
Comics I used to buy back in the day (some of my favorites anyway, but there were many):

Batman
Spider-Man
Fantastic Four
Plastic Man
Green Lantern/Green Arrow
Captain America
The Invaders
Justice League (Of America)
Avengers
Iron Man


14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: “Do It Again” remake named one of the worst songs of the year by Stereogum on: December 31, 2017, 11:51:27 AM
This is not meant as ML bashing, but who would seriously want to listen to this? 
It's pandering pablum that does nothing, says nothing and means even less. 
What if ML had done a solo project where he covered some old r&b stuff he loves?  Maybe wrote/cowrote some things in that vein,
or just simply did something unexpected, creative, genuine and real?  Would it really sell less than this (probably) did?  It might have garnered (at least some) critical favor
 and possibly sold as well if not better.   It might actually have been "good" and something I and a lot of other people would want to put on and listen to. 
Maybe this sounds harsh, sorry to any who feel wounded by it, but it's how I feel. 

15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys Podcast! on: December 03, 2017, 10:22:24 AM
I've enjoyed the episodes thus far and look forward to more.  It's great to finally have a Beach Boys podcast out there!   Thumbs Up

16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Christmas albums that are also really good music on: November 21, 2017, 12:47:46 PM
Vince Gueraldi - A Charlie Brown Christmas  Smiley
17  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Rock and Rock Hall of Fame - 2018 Ballot on: October 10, 2017, 01:35:51 PM
My opinion of Wenner and the HOF is that he/it is an elitist pile o' crud, but if there's gonna be a HOF it's about time the Moodies were in there!  The Monkees (and I'd say Nesmith on his own as well), Zombies absolutely, and can I get some love for Jethro Tull?   Watch any number of live clips of Anderson and Tull (not to mention the many fine albums) and tell me they did not rock .  You can't, because they did!   Rock!
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: CALLING ALL CREATIVE MEMBERS ON SMILEY SMILE! Let's write some lyrics! on: September 18, 2016, 04:39:04 PM
Legit or not, i love em.  Smiley
 I'm imagining a killer Beach Boys homage/parody, sleigh bells and whistles full on production.
the surfin' boys meet the psychedelicate beach. 

If Mike had written the words for Smile.....


I've been having fun fun fun
So long that back in the city
I've been helpin Rhonda
For don't worry Baby

Yep. That would have been pretty fucking dreadful

Not bad as parody though, made me chuckle a bit Wink

But really, would Mike have written nothing but inanely goofy, self referential lyrics? 
I realize that, yes, he tends to do that these days, but back in '66 I don't think so.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: CALLING ALL CREATIVE MEMBERS ON SMILEY SMILE! Let's write some lyrics! on: September 18, 2016, 04:09:08 PM
Legit or not, i love em.  Smiley
 I'm imagining a killer Beach Boys homage/parody, sleigh bells and whistles full on production.
the surfin' boys meet the psychedelicate beach. 

If Mike had written the words for Smile.....
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 18, 2016, 08:41:12 AM
A few thoughts on the audio version, which I recently acquired:

The delivery of his reading isn't all that great overall, he often sounds unsure about what he's reading, he stumbles quite a bit in parts like he doesn't know the material, and that voice - it's like he's thinking, "Yeah, listen to my sexy, mellifluous voice!"
There are points in the book where he is mostly just quoting from other sources - I found some of that a little annoying.
Some of his memories about events through the band's history are pretty interesting, feel less apocryphal and more genuine, and I appreciate that aspect a lot. 

and just a warning:  do not fall asleep while listening to this.  Seriously, falling asleep while listening to this is....just a bad idea, don't do it!  (more than that I cannot say)
21  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Campaign 2016 on: July 27, 2016, 10:10:18 AM
Two words:  JILL STEIN.



22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds played by The Beach Boys on: March 11, 2016, 03:01:21 PM
I would concur with Debbie that to achieve the sounds Brian wanted, some additional musicians were needed.  However, this would not have precluded Carl, Al, Dennis and Bruce playing their usual instruments (as Carl did on many tracks anyway).   It may have taken a bit more time to get the album done that way though, as (one might assume, and potentially erroneously) far more takes would have been required to get a solid take Brian liked. 
23  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Groups / Artists You're Ashamed to Have Like on: March 07, 2016, 04:12:27 AM
I wouldn't necessarily say I'm "ashamed", but I liked the Cutting Crew album Broadcast in '86 and Play Deep by The Outfield in '85.    Smiley
Oh, and also really liked the Naked Eyes album from '83 - synth pop guilty pleasure.   Cheesy
24  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Summer of Trump on: March 02, 2016, 04:06:45 PM
The only candidate with the initials B.S., is also, ironically, the only one of them who isn't actually full of bullsh*t.   

I ain't lookin' fer a fight, so don't come callin' with one - but Bernie's the one for me. 
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys \ on: March 02, 2016, 04:04:41 PM
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