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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The (eventually) MIC spoilers thread on: August 29, 2013, 08:17:16 PM
I think I like the alternate take of Don't Worry Baby better than the released version, I like Brian's vocal nice and raw like that rather than with all the reverb and double tracking.  Wow, his voice was beautiful back then.

I don't know if I like it better, but it's more powerful and raw as you said - he makes a very difficult vocal sound so incredibly easy.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'Where is she?' just played on BBC radio 2! on: August 20, 2013, 09:27:52 PM
Love it!  Very interesting to hear Brian's future voice creep in during certain phrases too.  Amazing that there are still songs like this in the vault that have gone unreleased for so long.
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC Song/Tracklisting Discussion Thread on: August 14, 2013, 08:32:43 PM

Wow I'd never heard that - I knew Dennis sang it live during that era but wow, that's a cool funky arrangement, and Dennis' voice fits the song a lot better than I thought it would.
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Modern songs that sound like specific Pet Sounds tracks on: July 27, 2013, 02:15:52 PM
"Don't Look Back" by She & Him - there's an instrumental break towards the end that could have been arranged by Brian himself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKYF962P-KI
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paul Giamatti is going to play Gene Landy in on: June 30, 2013, 08:28:29 PM
I think Jason Schwartzman would make a great Carl.

I was thinking of this actor named Zak Orth, he would be pretty good at playing Carl and he seems to look like Carl as well.

Funny, I thought the exact same thing when I saw him in Wet Hot American Summer.  Not sure he looks like that anymore though.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1967 Hawaii Concerts on: May 24, 2013, 11:26:49 PM
I've always had a bit of a soft spot for the rehearsals - I dig the Smiley vibe in general, so the super cooled-out versions of "Surfer Girl", "California Girls", etc. are neat to listen to.  The sloppiness can be a bit distracting at times, coming from a band who at that time was known for their precision (especially in the studio).  But dammit if that isn't one of the most beautiful renditions of "Surfer Girl" that the band ever did.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: California Girls on a church organ on: May 23, 2013, 09:44:15 PM
Loved it, awesome job!
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In the we're all getting older department ... on: May 22, 2013, 06:56:29 PM
Wow that's crazy!  I knew he was in his 40's, but I always thought he was on the lower side of it.  Whatever his "secret" is, it's working marvelously!
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Working titles: What they mean and cool stories behind them on: May 02, 2013, 04:16:15 PM
We all know the story, but can't forget "Run James Run" which became "Pet Sounds".
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Random Thoughts on Please Let Me Wonder (with really no point) on: April 24, 2013, 08:17:22 PM
I think you guys are spot-on.  It's a very unique take on the oft-written about unrequited love topic, putting us right in that moment where this guy is about to confess his feelings for the girl he's been pining for.  Having recently been in this particular situation myself, I appreciate how brilliant the lyrics are more than ever.

I've always been particularly struck by the "you'll never know what we've been through" line.  He's been fantasizing about this hypothetical perfect relationship - he's already played it out in his head a million times, yet he knows that even though he's already in that place, she has no idea.  It's a very difficult thing to have fantasies like that going on in your head, all the while knowing that the person you're fantasizing about is completely unaware, and probably doesn't share the same dreams.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and Mike's relationship on: April 23, 2013, 09:03:50 PM
Adamghost, I think you're right about Carl doing "what he could," and the best illustration is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55XBMJ_ZM58

Before the embarrassing dreck from Mike, there is Two-and-a-half minutes of pure magic from Carl.

That was an incredibly moving performance, I'd never seen it before.  Only Mike would think that bringing cheerleaders on stage after that was anything resembling a good idea.  As others have said though, I think by this point he had learned to pick his battles and keep the peace, so he knew there were trade-offs that had to be made to maintain the delicate equilibrium within the group.
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian Wilson Movie news! on: April 17, 2013, 08:10:15 PM
Isn't he like 50???

He wouldn't be playing young Brian - they've already cast that role.  Presumably he would be playing Brian in the 80's-90's.
38  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Annette Funicello RIP on: April 08, 2013, 04:00:51 PM
Sad news to hear, although from a recent news report I watched, her quality of life had been horrible for quite some time due to her MS, so I hope that wherever she is, she isn't suffering anymore.  RIP.
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smiley Smile songs we would miss on: March 29, 2013, 04:51:42 PM
Great topic.  I love Smiley almost as much as Smile and Pet Sounds, so I'd miss just about everything on there in our hypothetical alternate universe.  I'd probably miss "Little Pad", "With Me Tonight" and "Wind Chimes" the most though, the latter being (in my opinion anyways) far superior to its Smile counterpart.  I wouldn't miss them enough to pass on a completed Smile though.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 08, 2013, 07:04:49 PM
Really cool mix Tricycle Rider - I dig the Barnyard/Barnshine hybrid at the end.  Placing IIGS in the middle is a bit jarring for me - I think it's because the instrumentation doesn't flow.  Cantina flows with what comes before it and what goes after.  Maybe that's why I've always preferred that mix to all others.  It all works together, although I think that if edited correctly, there's a version out there with IIGS and Barnyard that works in a different way, like a series of vignettes rather than one cohesive statement.  I don't really agree with the notion that such a version is more linear than the Cantina version.

I'd love to see that too Sheriff but sadly I doubt we ever will - Brian is probably sick to death of talking about Smile.  The time to do that would have been when the box was released.  It's too bad too, because as others have said he would probably remember quite a bit if he was in a relaxed setting with some of the people who were around him during the Smile era. 

41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 03, 2013, 04:38:52 PM
Has anybody put together an approximation edit of that description of the IIGS/H&V acetate yet that they can share?

Only in my head - music-wise though, just running through those sections what I'm "hearing" sounds really cool.  Depending on where IIGS cuts off, the Ab7 segues perfectly into the tonic C# of Heroes and "My Children Were Raised" specifically.

Great post about the tapes too guitarfool - I agree that a lot of priceless stuff was probably taped over, although the fact that new things are still being discovered this late in the game leads me to think (or hope, anyways) that there are still little tidbits like this to be discovered, whether through acetates, master tapes, whatever.  Whomever is still out there holding onto rare material, the day is going to come where they (or their kin) are going to want to cash in.  Given the sheer volume of material recorded during that time period, I think the probability is high that there are more acetates and tapes still in existence than anyone has heard.  Not a "Surf's Up" 2nd movement or anything, but things along the lines of test edits and alternate mixes.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 03, 2013, 08:31:26 AM
Can't thank you enough for the detailed posts Andy - one way or the other this stuff needs to be preserved and (ultimately) heard. 
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 01, 2013, 07:00:32 PM
Not to veer off topic (the acetates themselves), but did anyone else know that Van Dyke and Durrie apparently lived with Brian during the Smile era, as stated in the Letter of Authenticity?
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Durrie Parks Smile acetates up for sale for $10,000 on: March 01, 2013, 04:12:53 PM
Mind = Blown  Shocked

Andy's posts are tantalizing to say the least - if Alan and co. didn't have the chance to hear these in the course of working on the Smile box, I wonder if one or more of the new bits may pop up on MIC? 
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Sessions wins a grammy!!! on: February 10, 2013, 05:02:58 PM
So happy for Brian, Mark and Alan.  Nice to see their hard work acknowledged and rewarded.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: More like Wouldn't it be Terrible... on: February 08, 2013, 02:32:24 PM
The singing was indeed pretty atrocious - modern singers seem to care more about showing off than singing with feeling (maybe they need a little Murry in their lives?) and really connecting with the song.  It's frustrating to watch clearly talented singers do stuff like this.  And for the love of god, why can nobody on this show seem to remember a few lyrics?  I get that you're trying to learn an unfamiliar (and difficult) melody, arrangement, whatever, but is it really that hard to remember 2 freaking lines?
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bruce Johnston, Ritchie Valens and \ on: January 31, 2013, 08:18:58 PM
Cool story, even though Donna's song is pretty awful.  Always been a big fan of "Donna" though.
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring '77 (With Brian - Audio) on: January 29, 2013, 02:29:13 PM
Wow - what a find!  I had no idea he still had that young voice in him at that point in time.  Especially that last verse on "round" and "fu-llll".  You listen to Love You and it doesn't even sound like the same guy, then to hear something like this...pretty unreal.  Thanks so much for sharing this!
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Jules Siegel passed on: January 28, 2013, 02:51:14 PM
Sad to hear - "Goodbye Surfing, Hello God" was such a huge milestone on my path of Smile discovery back in the day.  RIP Mr. Siegel.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Ida \ on: January 10, 2013, 06:20:23 PM
Did Brian take credit for too many J&D hits?

That's what I was thinking.  I mean, he co-wrote a few of them, but Berry and Christian and Altfield also had a big hand in them too!

Yeah that was interesting, he made it sound like he was doing all the writing.  Probably just came out the wrong way, but still. 

The whole thing was awesome to see.  Does anyone else hear "old" Brian while listening to "young" Brian talk?  Obviously you know it's the same guy, but it's so odd to me hearing the same speech patterns and style coming from a young clear voice.
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