Just my perspective on this, but if the death of old friends is one of the supposed off-limits topics for the band/etc I would think that someone would’ve let Jason Fine know this before getting into a car with Brian for 70 hours. And while the band and other workers may know what subjects are taboo, Brian still does interviews, he sees people at the deli. It’s not like he is completely shut off from the outside world…I mean, I’m sure the guy knows how to use a TV remote and flips through channels, sees the news, etc. As in, it’s impossible to shelter Brian from everything, so why hide things like this from him (when it could possibly be mentally worse for the guy if he is blindsided by bad news).

Death is a part of life, and Brian is no stranger to it. I mean, Nicky Wonder unfortunately passed away and Brian paid homage to him in concert. To me, the simplest explanation is that Brian just forgets things from time to time, and Reiley’s passing is just one of those things.

There would no avoiding the sad death of Nicky W but the news of Jack R is different. He wasn't well known outside BB's circles and was there only for a brief fairly uncommercial period during the bands history. He's unlikely to make mainstream news. The chances of someone saying such things at the deli also seems slim IMO.

1) My point about Nicky Wonder is that Nicky was someone who Brian spent a lot of time with on a very long term basis and Brian didn't mentally break down because of the news - he was able to carry on with life in a normal fashion to the point of being able to pay homage to him in a concert following his death. Thus I doubt that his wife/doctors keep sad news from him because he can obviously handle it...even the news of Reiley...if Fine bringing it up was the first time Brian heard the news, you can see that Brian didn't go into a panic attack, he just seemed saddened by the news like any normal person would be if an old friend died.
2) My point about Brian watching the news wasn't tied in with Reiley but other people who Brian is/was close to who have already or will eventually die (who are more newsworthy - say, if McCartney passed away (yes I know he wasn't close to McCartney, but it would still be sad for Brian to hear, etc). My point is that it is impossible to shelter Brian from sad news 100% of the time.
3) My point about the deli is that Brian goes places, sees people in uncontrollable environments and thus it is possible for him to be blindsided by sad/bad news. Thus I doubt they keep sad news from Brian because there are chances that he will find out about it anyways.

It's very easy break down all that to make my point but we are not gonna agree so I'll leave it.

Just my perspective on this, but if the death of old friends is one of the supposed off-limits topics for the band/etc I would think that someone would’ve let Jason Fine know this before getting into a car with Brian for 70 hours. And while the band and other workers may know what subjects are taboo, Brian still does interviews, he sees people at the deli. It’s not like he is completely shut off from the outside world…I mean, I’m sure the guy knows how to use a TV remote and flips through channels, sees the news, etc. As in, it’s impossible to shelter Brian from everything, so why hide things like this from him (when it could possibly be mentally worse for the guy if he is blindsided by bad news).

Death is a part of life, and Brian is no stranger to it. I mean, Nicky Wonder unfortunately passed away and Brian paid homage to him in concert. To me, the simplest explanation is that Brian just forgets things from time to time, and Reiley’s passing is just one of those things.

There would no avoiding the sad death of Nicky W but the news of Jack R is different. He wasn't well known outside BB's circles and was there only for a brief fairly uncommercial period during the bands history. He's unlikely to make mainstream news. The chances of someone saying such things at the deli also seems slim IMO.

Yeah that could be the case. But I'd also think that since Brian is around a lot of people from time to time (recording studios, backstage at concerts, interviews) that his wife/management would tell him this stuff anyways because eventually he's probably going to hear the news. If he isn't told about emotionally troubling news, then he could potentially be blindsided with that news...if that's what happened with the Reiley information from Jason Fine on camera, that really isn't a great way to handle that type of stuff.

I'd imagine his band mates and people he works with are well tuned in to what are appropriate conversations to have around him.

It could be that they don't tell him as it's very upsetting. You can see in the doc how he protects himself from emotionally tough situations.

If there is no official condolence from his SM accounts then perhaps it becomes difficult as it's seen as disrespectful or people start speculating about possible reasons.

Enjoyed it, lot of old ground covered and not keen on some of the talking heads but some really great moments and a nice insight into Brian's life.

Very emotional at times re: his brothers and....Jack Rieley.

Was interesting to see the therapeutic effect a song like "It's OK" has for Brian when he wanted LPR off and it put back on in the car.

Hey!.....and Brian finally listened to POB!

Loving the Paley stuff...going home is a bit of a revelation in that form. "I'm Broke" mix seems to me like a conscious decision to add a raw sounding/demoish/live mix to the soundtrack even though it's a studio recording. Never really cared for "Slightly American Music" but it sounds so much more interesting here.

Obviously, the newer vocals are less enjoyable but I was surprised how much I liked "The Night was so Young".

https://consequence.net/2021/11/brian-wilson-long-promised-road-soundtrack-right-where-i-belong-stream/

'Nuff said!

Thanks for linking that!

Tracklist for the album:

01. Right Where I Belong
02. I’m Goin Home
03. It’s Not Easy Being Me
04. Must Be a Miracle
05. Slightly American Music
06. It’s O.K.
07. Rock & Roll Has Got a Hold On Me
08. The Night Was So Young
09. Honeycomb
10. Long Promised Road
11. In My Room Live from the Ryman Auditorium
12. I’m Broke

Are those Paley era songs used in the movie? quite surprised by that list. Any CD/LP release planned?

I've only watched the doc once so far; I sure don't remember all of those songs being used. Some stuff plays in the background (well, most stuff is in the background) during the film, but I'd be surprised if *every* one of those is in the film.

Parts of "Right Where I Belong" are in it of course, and studio sessions for "It's OK", "Honeycomb", and "Long Promised Road" are shown.

Maybe the TLOS version of "Going Home" is heard, I can't remember. There's a tiny bit of TLOS stuff in it.

Not sure on the rest. I sure feel like I'd remember if they had played stuff like "Slightly American Music" or "It's Not Easy Being Me." Looks like they might be using this as a dump for a lot of the still-unreleased Paley tracks. Which is kind of weird, but hey, I'll take it. I mean, I guess Andy Paley is in the doc and discusses (as many previous interviews) getting the post-Landy call to work with Brian. That's the only other connection to the Paley stuff I can think of.

Thanks. Looking forward to seeing it.

Anyone know what the last word of the opening line is? is/feels?

I'm sure it was mentioned already but funny to have another Carl reference as the main song.

https://consequence.net/2021/11/brian-wilson-long-promised-road-soundtrack-right-where-i-belong-stream/

'Nuff said!

Thanks for linking that!

Tracklist for the album:

01. Right Where I Belong
02. I’m Goin Home
03. It’s Not Easy Being Me
04. Must Be a Miracle
05. Slightly American Music
06. It’s O.K.
07. Rock & Roll Has Got a Hold On Me
08. The Night Was So Young
09. Honeycomb
10. Long Promised Road
11. In My Room Live from the Ryman Auditorium
12. I’m Broke

Are those Paley era songs used in the movie? quite surprised by that list. Any CD/LP release planned?

Very sad news. It's easy to see how much he meant to all the extended Beach Boys family. RIP Billy.

Nice to hear the song stripped down. Some great chord changes in that song. Good intelligent pop writing.

There were some horrendous live versions by the boys in 2012 but the one posted above is decent though Jeff sounds a bit off at times.

Is this the Brian gig? https://backstageaxxess.com/2019/08/brian-wilson-of-the-beach-boys-added-to-cayamo-lineup/

That's actually a really good lineup....very different quality to it than a lineup with Mark McGrath and a Beatles cover band.

Suppose it's just personal taste.

Bruce might get cabin fever being on there for 3 days...McGrath better watch his back 

Here are a couple of recent performances:


"Feel Flows" - The Beach Boys "Feel Flows tour" - Puyallup Fair, 9/6/2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3Z4RI4GPKU



"All I Wanna Do" - The Beach Boys "Feel Flows tour" - Puyallup Fair, 9/6/2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHVXrBxFDUE



"It's About Time" (partial) - The Beach Boys "Feel Flows tour" - Puyallup Fair, 9/6/2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkM4E1h_V7A

Sounding good here IMO.

I've never understood why they performed "Okie"   I like the song but is it some kind of tongue in cheek joke? It's a bit subtle for that, no?

The crowds at that time loved it by all accounts and recordings available. It was definitely tongue in cheek when artists like The Beach Boys performed it, playing up the lyrics like "we don't smoke marijuana in Muskogee" as pure parody and comedy for the counterculture. Merle Haggard himself wrote the song purely at face value after touring through those areas and seeing the differences between rural America and cities like San Francisco, and the song went to number 1 on the country charts, but later Haggard said he started to sing it and view it with a different perspective with a lot of events and years in his rearview mirror than he had originally.

The Grateful Dead also covered other Merle Haggard songs, bottom line is he wrote good songs that were popular and had a good country beat that bands liked playing, and with "Okie" it was a good laugh for the audiences who were smoking pot and dropping LSD so it turned into parody with a good beat. I thought The Beach Boys always knocked it out of the park with the song, and it got the crowds moving and grooving and singing along.

Thanks. It just seems odd for a band that was perceived as square and actively trying to become more "hip" to sing this song. It's very close to the bone. I guess I'm not giving audiences enough credit.

I've never understood why they performed "Okie"  I like the song but is it some kind of tongue in cheek joke? It's a bit subtle for that, no?

Don't think you can really tie the two together.....certainly an album that could do with a SMiLE influence though 

Another performance of "It's about Time", but with a tribute to Charlie Watts in the beginning.


The Beach Boys It's About Time Palace Theater Greensburg, Pa. 8-24-21

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJ1EnWcDpr0

I think it's an OK vocal at times but it's a lazy one too. It's like he is preserving his voice and doesn't want to give it 100%.

Any reports on how the vinyl pressings are yet?

Sir, you have cloth ears  

The only thing that hurts is listening to the MOR Muzak produced by that malignant mullet-haired moron.

  Agreed....never listened to them side by side.

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Wow...love this!

I give up. Who?

A man who has been quite outspoken in his dislike of Mike Love recently 

I hear version 7 will be based around an ol Kingston Trio song 

This was a good watch. Very interesting in terms of Manson's relationship with the LA music community.

One thing I'll always find strange is that "Never Learn not to Love" will never have a Manson credit despite everyone knowing it's mainly his song. Guess, that's the deal that was made.

in the top 5 worst Beach Boys songs for me