Opened my 5LP + 7" set about an hour ago. Listened to CATP and about half way through Holland. Really impressed with the pressing quality so far. Proper anti static sleeves too not paper as I've seen mentioned on discogs.

A complete concert from Hollywood 1973 appeared on Spotify, but the tracks are not clickable. What is this?

It was working yesterday but sadly not today. I listened to half of it and it sounded great. Probably another copyright protection move.

Finally a BIG PRICE DROP on this for UK/Europe for the 5 LP + 7" Set

£84.10 on Amazon UK https://amzn.to/3UWUvmY
€89.03 on Amazon DE https://amzn.to/41JljJh

Probably be back to normal price again by the time anyone sees this 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1yj8Yc9A7u8

A "sort of" cover of I've got a Friend. A bit karaoke I suppose but seeing as no studio vocal exists (and the live audio is so low quality) I thought it might be interesting to try put something together.

I took the track off the Feel Flows set and edited so it would fit all the lyrics from the live version.

I then added my own vocal taking the lyrics from here - reddit.com/r/thebeachboys/comments/vregct/lyrics_for_ive_got_a_friend

[Big Star playing #1 Record in the studio for Carl Wilson and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys]

Speaking of the Box Tops, anybody heard about this?


Big Star playing #1 Record in the studio for Carl Wilson and Brian Wilson of the Beach Boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjsPl9A4Tiw

Wow! that's news to me. Thanks for sharing.

Who is that in the pic at 1.43? Guy with guitar looks like Alex Chilton.

For some reason there's not a lot going on here about "Carry me home" so I would just like to express again how much I appreciate this "new" version. Much more than I ever liked listening to the bootlegged version (for obvious reasons). Listening to this release blew my mind. Blondie and Dennis sharing the lead is very effective and it shoows (as does the In Concert album) how well Blondie's voice fit in with the Beach Boys blend. Man, if only Blondie and Ricky would've stayed with the band.
Thanks Alan, Mark, Howie, Beach Boys and everyone else who made sure we can enjoy this beautiful recording.

Agree, it sounds fantastic. What a song to be left unreleased for 50 years or so. I heard the leaked Brother Rarities one but this version blows it away.

That quote is horrendous....vacation in a can....get away from it all.....fire the marketing team. I don't think anyone is allowed advertise an alcohol brand like that? not in Europe anyway.

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland

I wasn't aware of that. Thank you! But I guess they didn't get to use the master tapes but worked with the "bootlegged" version, did they?

Unfortunately I've never come across an affordable copy so haven't heard it. I'd imagine it's the official version sanctioned by Brother as AP are a legit company but not 100%.

It's on the SACD too https://www.discogs.com/release/8864074-The-Beach-Boys-Holland

Thread here http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,19211.0.html

And finally we get the studio recording of "We got Love". I really like that one, especially that pedal steel intro! As you certainly know, an early pressing of "Holland" featuring that song was released in Germany, yet the recording was never used again on any sets afaik.

I think Analogue Productions used it on a vinyl release. Found it here https://www.discogs.com/release/8957660-The-Beach-Boys-Holland

Carry me home on disc 2 and 6 is interesting. Wonder what the difference is?

--If anyone here REALLY thinks that OSD is secretly "working for Mike," they've clearly had more than one too many "big dinners"! 

Was just kidding around Don however Smile Brian definitely works for Mike. That Melinda ruse was clever though I must admit 

A handful of posters on this board have created more Mike Love apologists in the past few years than probably the previous twenty. 

Reverse psychology?

Perhaps this was Mike Love's plan all along.

Is OSD secretly working for Mike Love?

If true, this would be confirmation that there is no depth to which Mike Love will not sink.

  I was kinda thinking the same  - It's a "genius" plan.....Is........Mike......a.........genius....too?

A handful of posters on this board have created more Mike Love apologists in the past few years than probably the previous twenty. 

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

I don't think anyone is looking for anything extra to bash Mike with. Whether or not the Wilson's would think it's a fun party song, the point in bringing up the LoCash song is that Mike seems to bring up the pitfalls of drug use anytime he's asked a question even remotely relating to modern-day Brian. We're bringing up the LoCash song because it's insanely hypocritical to judge Brian for drug use 40 years ago whilst promoting a song in 2022 that promotes excessive drug use.

"promotes excessive drug use" - It's kind of a spring break bro country song. Stop making it something it's not.

70,000+ were killed by opioids last year in America. 80,000+ were killed by alcohol alone last year in America. Call the song whatever you want, but alcohol is a drug, and it's abuse does kill millions of people worldwide each year. Just because it's marketed and legal doesn't make it any less lethal than the drugs that Mike constantly crusades against (when it comes to Brian).

And with those statistics in mind, the repeated line "drink em down down drink em down" "Instead of Jack D, shoot some Cuervo. Mix up some rum" is promoting excessive drug use.

And to top it all off, it's just churlish to promote such a song when Dennis Wilson died due to his problems with alcohol.

Again, I'm not making up these statistics. I'm not "making something it's not". The lyrics are there, the facts are there.

You should consider a career in politics. You're reaching far too much. I agree alcohol is a dangerous drug but that song is still just a dumb ass party song.....nothing more and means nothing re:Dennis Wilson.

Dennis Wilson drank all day every day in his last years. Big difference than binge drinking at a party or whatever this song is talking about.

Look, I am really not trying to reach too far. If I am then I will concede my point. But logically in my mind, alcohol is a drug that leads to death for many people (whether or not your an alcoholic). I've had a good friend die because of drunk driving, I've seen it destroy families, I've seen more people die of the long-term effects of it. Billy shared his story above as well. And it's not really subjective when the numbers show 3 million people die of alcohol related incidents a year....be it drunk driving (which you don't need to be an alcoholic for), or fights that lead to deaths, or just alcoholism in general.

Again, my point is that if Mike is on some crusade to fight the evils of drugs, then he shouldn't be promoting/singing on a song that promotes the use of alcohol (a drug that you yourself admit is dangerous). Even if it is just a "dumb party song" - it is a song promoting the use of a drug that kills people.

I don't see the logic behind that being something akin to a political stunt. Sorry if you see it that way, and if you care to pick apart my logic I'd be happy to concede my point.

Sorry to hear you have lost someone. There are a hell of a lot of songs out there about drinking/drugs and partying to excess. Do we condemn them all or just Mike Love associated ones?

Tbf I've already picked apart your logic and again you're doing what I referred to in my last post. As is the nature of the internet, we can continue to post endlessly but tbh I've yet to see you concede a point on this board so.....

It’s one thing for Motley Crüe to sing about getting wasted: they never claimed to be choirboys or any kind of role models. But Mike buddied up to Nancy “Just Say No” Reagan and routinely brings up his cousins’ histories of substance abuse. And then turns around and sings on a song about partying and drinking only because the song uses the hook to I Get Around and is called “Beach Boys”. If Mike never, ever said a word about Brian’s or anyone else’s drug abuse and still did this song, no one would care. Literally. You would get eye rolls, yes. But other than that, nothing. Whether it is fair or not, Mike makes himself an easy target when he does stuff like this.

Is the issue then just about Mike being hypocritical re: his own behavior?  If so, I don't really care about that. The idea of it being a problem for Wilson's is a whole different thing. That's where the "reaching" comes in.

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

I don't think anyone is looking for anything extra to bash Mike with. Whether or not the Wilson's would think it's a fun party song, the point in bringing up the LoCash song is that Mike seems to bring up the pitfalls of drug use anytime he's asked a question even remotely relating to modern-day Brian. We're bringing up the LoCash song because it's insanely hypocritical to judge Brian for drug use 40 years ago whilst promoting a song in 2022 that promotes excessive drug use.

"promotes excessive drug use" - It's kind of a spring break bro country song. Stop making it something it's not.

70,000+ were killed by opioids last year in America. 80,000+ were killed by alcohol alone last year in America. Call the song whatever you want, but alcohol is a drug, and it's abuse does kill millions of people worldwide each year. Just because it's marketed and legal doesn't make it any less lethal than the drugs that Mike constantly crusades against (when it comes to Brian).

And with those statistics in mind, the repeated line "drink em down down drink em down" "Instead of Jack D, shoot some Cuervo. Mix up some rum" is promoting excessive drug use.

And to top it all off, it's just churlish to promote such a song when Dennis Wilson died due to his problems with alcohol.

Again, I'm not making up these statistics. I'm not "making something it's not". The lyrics are there, the facts are there.

You should consider a career in politics. You're reaching far too much. I agree alcohol is a dangerous drug but that song is still just a dumb ass party song.....nothing more and means nothing re:Dennis Wilson.

Dennis Wilson drank all day every day in his last years. Big difference than binge drinking at a party or whatever this song is talking about.

Look, I am really not trying to reach too far. If I am then I will concede my point. But logically in my mind, alcohol is a drug that leads to death for many people (whether or not your an alcoholic). I've had a good friend die because of drunk driving, I've seen it destroy families, I've seen more people die of the long-term effects of it. Billy shared his story above as well. And it's not really subjective when the numbers show 3 million people die of alcohol related incidents a year....be it drunk driving (which you don't need to be an alcoholic for), or fights that lead to deaths, or just alcoholism in general.

Again, my point is that if Mike is on some crusade to fight the evils of drugs, then he shouldn't be promoting/singing on a song that promotes the use of alcohol (a drug that you yourself admit is dangerous). Even if it is just a "dumb party song" - it is a song promoting the use of a drug that kills people.

I don't see the logic behind that being something akin to a political stunt. Sorry if you see it that way, and if you care to pick apart my logic I'd be happy to concede my point.

Sorry to hear you have lost someone. There are a hell of a lot of songs out there about drinking/drugs and partying to excess. Do we condemn them all or just Mike Love associated ones?

Tbf I've already picked apart your logic and again you're doing what I referred to in my last post. As is the nature of the internet, we can continue to post endlessly but tbh I've yet to see you concede a point on this board so.....

But you haven’t picked apart my logic. To break it down to its simplest, I am saying that:

1) alcohol is a bad drug (and I have provided statistics/examples of this, you yourself have called it a dangerous drug)
2) promoting the use of alcohol (being it in advertisements, music, movies) can lead people to drink alcohol - that is the nature of ads, influence, and yes, even dumb spring break party songs (alcohol ads in America even all come with safety warnings)….this song in particular is literally telling people to “drink ‘em down down drink ‘em down” (ie it is promoting that people drink - and technically binge drink (something not harmless, according to the NIH and verified statistics).
3) people who publicly fight against the use of street drugs should also fight against the use of alcohol, as statistically alcohol is one of the biggest killers of human life as far as drugs go.
4) thus, Mike Love shouldn’t be singing on songs that promote the use of the drug. A few years ago Mike Love talked about how heroin use took the love and harmony out of The Beach Boys. And yet here Mike is promoting a drug that kills more people than heroin each year. I find that to be hypocritical.

Reading through our conversation you haven’t picked apart any of those points, or any association between the those points. Thus far, if I gather correctly, your argument is that the LoCash song is a harmless party song, and because other mainstream songs promote excessive drug use means that we shouldn’t look down on Mike Love for singing on and promoting one of these songs. The former point you haven’t proved what makes the promotion of alcohol in a party song “harmless” (alcohol is a dangerous drug, according to you, so how is it’s promotion in any form “harmless”?). And your latter point isn’t a valid argument (the saying “two wrongs don’t make a right” comes to mind).

One point I’d like to make, if it has any bearing on how strongly I feel about this topic, is that I am currently under the impression that Brian Wilson needed to approve LoCash’s use of the “I Get Around” theme. I could totally be wrong about that (and someone please correct me if I’m wrong). But something that one of the members of LoCash said (it had to do with them being surprised by getting approval from The Beach Boys) made me think that Brian would’ve had to approve the song. Point being, I’m currently just as annoyed at Brian as I am at Mike for this song being associated with The Beach Boys.

As for me not conceding any points on this forum, a lot of people here have either schooled me on facts or opinions (such as when I used to think Mike was the sole reason for Smile’s downfall, or when HeyJude didn’t hold back when I made the moronic statement that George Harrison wasn’t a good guitar player)…when I’m I’m wrong, and when people come to me with facts and logic I will absolutely concede to their knowledge and well-reasoned arguments. My opinions are not infallible.

Tbf I've already picked apart your logic and again you're doing what I referred to in my last post.

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

I don't think anyone is looking for anything extra to bash Mike with. Whether or not the Wilson's would think it's a fun party song, the point in bringing up the LoCash song is that Mike seems to bring up the pitfalls of drug use anytime he's asked a question even remotely relating to modern-day Brian. We're bringing up the LoCash song because it's insanely hypocritical to judge Brian for drug use 40 years ago whilst promoting a song in 2022 that promotes excessive drug use.

"promotes excessive drug use" - It's kind of a spring break bro country song. Stop making it something it's not.

70,000+ were killed by opioids last year in America. 80,000+ were killed by alcohol alone last year in America. Call the song whatever you want, but alcohol is a drug, and it's abuse does kill millions of people worldwide each year. Just because it's marketed and legal doesn't make it any less lethal than the drugs that Mike constantly crusades against (when it comes to Brian).

And with those statistics in mind, the repeated line "drink em down down drink em down" "Instead of Jack D, shoot some Cuervo. Mix up some rum" is promoting excessive drug use.

And to top it all off, it's just churlish to promote such a song when Dennis Wilson died due to his problems with alcohol.

Again, I'm not making up these statistics. I'm not "making something it's not". The lyrics are there, the facts are there.

You should consider a career in politics. You're reaching far too much. I agree alcohol is a dangerous drug but that song is still just a dumb ass party song.....nothing more and means nothing re:Dennis Wilson.

Dennis Wilson drank all day every day in his last years. Big difference than binge drinking at a party or whatever this song is talking about.

Look, I am really not trying to reach too far. If I am then I will concede my point. But logically in my mind, alcohol is a drug that leads to death for many people (whether or not your an alcoholic). I've had a good friend die because of drunk driving, I've seen it destroy families, I've seen more people die of the long-term effects of it. Billy shared his story above as well. And it's not really subjective when the numbers show 3 million people die of alcohol related incidents a year....be it drunk driving (which you don't need to be an alcoholic for), or fights that lead to deaths, or just alcoholism in general.

Again, my point is that if Mike is on some crusade to fight the evils of drugs, then he shouldn't be promoting/singing on a song that promotes the use of alcohol (a drug that you yourself admit is dangerous). Even if it is just a "dumb party song" - it is a song promoting the use of a drug that kills people.

I don't see the logic behind that being something akin to a political stunt. Sorry if you see it that way, and if you care to pick apart my logic I'd be happy to concede my point.

Sorry to hear you have lost someone. There are a hell of a lot of songs out there about drinking/drugs and partying to excess. Do we condemn them all or just Mike Love associated ones?

Tbf I've already picked apart your logic and again you're doing what I referred to in my last post. As is the nature of the internet, we can continue to post endlessly but tbh I've yet to see you concede a point on this board so.....

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

I don't think anyone is looking for anything extra to bash Mike with. Whether or not the Wilson's would think it's a fun party song, the point in bringing up the LoCash song is that Mike seems to bring up the pitfalls of drug use anytime he's asked a question even remotely relating to modern-day Brian. We're bringing up the LoCash song because it's insanely hypocritical to judge Brian for drug use 40 years ago whilst promoting a song in 2022 that promotes excessive drug use.

"promotes excessive drug use" - It's kind of a spring break bro country song. Stop making it something it's not.

70,000+ were killed by opioids last year in America. 80,000+ were killed by alcohol alone last year in America. Call the song whatever you want, but alcohol is a drug, and it's abuse does kill millions of people worldwide each year. Just because it's marketed and legal doesn't make it any less lethal than the drugs that Mike constantly crusades against (when it comes to Brian).

And with those statistics in mind, the repeated line "drink em down down drink em down" "Instead of Jack D, shoot some Cuervo. Mix up some rum" is promoting excessive drug use.

And to top it all off, it's just churlish to promote such a song when Dennis Wilson died due to his problems with alcohol.

Again, I'm not making up these statistics. I'm not "making something it's not". The lyrics are there, the facts are there.

You should consider a career in politics. You're reaching far too much. I agree alcohol is a dangerous drug but that song is still just a dumb ass party song.....nothing more and means nothing re:Dennis Wilson.

Dennis Wilson drank all day every day in his last years. Big difference than binge drinking at a party or whatever this song is talking about.

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

I don't think anyone is looking for anything extra to bash Mike with. Whether or not the Wilson's would think it's a fun party song, the point in bringing up the LoCash song is that Mike seems to bring up the pitfalls of drug use anytime he's asked a question even remotely relating to modern-day Brian. We're bringing up the LoCash song because it's insanely hypocritical to judge Brian for drug use 40 years ago whilst promoting a song in 2022 that promotes excessive drug use.

"promotes excessive drug use" - It's kind of a spring break bro country song. Stop making it something it's not.

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

While sadly I don't think it's as clear cut obvious that like *every* other member of the band would 100% have not been involved with that Locash track, I'd offer two points:

One, I'm pretty sure it's quite possible if not probably that many wouldn't. I think it's a reach to think that Dennis or Carl or Brian would have thought that Locash thing was a quality track. Let's remember that even *while* he was in the band, Dennis tried to usually stay away from that disco "Here Comes the Night". I think they made him stay on stage and do "percussion" on it that one time they did the song on "Midnight Special"; but clearly he didn't even endorse every *Beach Boys* song *while* he was active in the band. Let's also remember that the trademarked "Beach Boys" logo was removed from the Locash artwork, and was also removed from the sticker on some versions of Mike's "Unleash the Love." *Somebody* is looking out for the name.

Secondly, a salient point is that if the band had *stayed together* and was an active group creating *new* music, they likely wouldn't have time or need to do the "Locash" track. The Status Quo thing in 1996 was bad enough, but the guys weren't exactly busying writing and recording "Sunflower 2" at the time.

The topical nature of the Locash track being weird/ironic/disrespectful in relation to the many ills that alcohol caused the band over the years is absolutely something worth raising as as issue.

Separate from that, it's a truly awful, awful track. It's not good. At all. Yes, seemingly the same fans that think Mike's "Rockaway Beach" and John Stamos singing Beach Boys songs is also "just fine" probably also don't have a problem with the Locash track.

A quality track? read what I said. You think it's a reach? I never said they would like it. I don't agree about the "topical nature" point. That can never be 100% unless you were there.

As much as Mike can be a dick, I don't think any Wilson would have a problem with that crappy country party drinking song. No point looking for extra thing to bash Mike with, there's plenty already.

He is 80 years old though Mike. You might want to also take that into account?

I feel for those who are going through something internally/mentally. It’s cliche, but I hope that one day we can all just enjoy this amazing music and not get caught up in the drama of it all (I’m 100% guilty of this). I think one day, when all the band has sadly passed, we’ll look back and realize how petty all this was/is.

Why wait until the band has passed?

There is a lot of unreleased material being leaked on youtube atm...lots of stuff from 75-77 plus Carry me Home from Holland era and more.

Sad to see him moving so slowly on the walker but think the whole Birthday oddness was just a Brian thing.

You're expecting him to say "Thanks" or something, he doesn't...probably just feeling a bit awkward or lost for words at that moment.