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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If you were to make a 1CD career-spanning BB best of... on: May 16, 2018, 09:38:01 AM
Impossible. A decent BBs best of would have to take up a minimum of 8 discs.

the only realistic answer  Grin
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: May 11, 2018, 05:59:09 AM
God. Awful.

Let's set up a new poll. what's more redundant?

"Fun, Fun Fun" studio version with minimal and bland orchestral overdub.

versus

Mike Love's 5th re-recording of Do It Again feat. loud idiot on backing shouting.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: May 03, 2018, 04:45:18 AM
Brian's just such a nice guy. Beyond admiring his music he is very admirable for his incredibly positive attitude, exceeding humbleness and gratitude to those wishing him well and appreciating him. A gracious gentleman by any measure.

The Wilson brothers, for all the failures and disasters they endured, always struck me as really good people and very kindhearted.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Light Album - Alternative take . . . on: April 29, 2018, 10:27:01 AM
I like the Light Album, but it suffers from a mishmash of musical styles.  I found this alternative light album on youtube.   Just brilliant IMO -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XREJHr9SygY&lc=z23ofbygsxyodrzjk04t1aokgykc4lha3lmfohvjjylark0h00410

Brian's Back is a truly awful track (with good harmonies), but the total mix you've created is far superior to LA Lights as it was released abck in 1979. I usually put "It's a Beautiful Day" to replace it (even though I realise it was recorded shortly after the album's release). Sumahama might even work better, if just for being an original dud as opposed to a Brian's Back being an uninspired dud  Grin
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Caribou Ranch (1975) fanmix on: April 23, 2018, 05:41:29 AM
I also highly doubt Rollin' Up To Heaven would make any potential cut. Very little is known about the non-cover recordings made during this period. Only a handful made it on 15BO, and of those maybe 2 are actually good?

If "Barnyard Blues" was the best they could retrieve from in the vault, then I'm not crossing my fingers for some lost masterpiece Grin
Material of this period is purely of niche fan interest in any case.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys With The Royal Philharmonic Orchestra - Coming in June? on: April 13, 2018, 12:23:36 PM
California Girls with a full string ensemble? No thanks.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Grammy salute on: April 07, 2018, 02:56:01 AM
They probably remember the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and don't want to go poking that bear again  Wink

There's that too. Mike Love is simply put an unstable element that has very little in common with the ideals or values that the networks want to put on television. He's a totally outdated figure.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This Week in BB History April 2 to 12 on: April 03, 2018, 06:48:07 AM
I also have some positive reviews! But I think it did cause him to realize how muoh he relied on the other bbs. I certainly wish I'd seen him solo though.

By that stage he wasn't gonna be a solo draw. It makes you think what would've happened if the band broke up in the late 70s and if Carl would've had better success. Would he toured with Dennis perhaps, and maybe have some involvement from Brian?
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Caribou Ranch (1975) fanmix on: April 01, 2018, 02:36:14 AM
We really need a release of the 1973-1975 material. Besides the Smile-era it might be the most interesting and certainly most pivotal period of their maturing career.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / "Lei'd in Hawaii" as a viable release? on: March 19, 2018, 12:10:49 PM
We now have full access to both of the 1967 HIC shows in Hawaii, the concert rehearsals, and the "fake live" recordings they did afterwards when they got back to LA.

In my opinion the live material from the 2nd Hawaiian show was pretty solid, especially the leads by Brian and Al on songs like "You're So Good To Me", "Wouldn't It Be Nice", "The Letter", and "Sloop John B". Carl does really well on "God Only Knows" and "Good Vibrations" and Brian performs a strong lead on "Heroes And Villains". I believe that these tracks could've formed the core of a 1967 live album, if supplemented with some of the "fake live" tracks.

Of the "fake live" tracks, the unique arrangements of Surfer Girl and California Girls really add something beautifully lo-fi, with the former being my personal favourite recording of the song. In addition, the gorgeous "Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring" and the fresh "With A Little Help From My Friends" should be included. All these songs could be given the live overdub effects, much like several tracks off the "Beach Boys Concert" LP from 1964.

The "hardrock" backing track of Barbara Ann and Surfin' hint at an album with much diversity in sound and arrangements, which I think would benefit it. "Game of Love" would also be an interesting addition.

In sum, I feel that there's a plethora of good live/"live" material from these shows and recordings. It makes it even more perplexing that no live album came of it.

What are your thoughts?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2018 Record Store Day - The Beach Boys on: March 02, 2018, 06:33:14 AM
Good news! The Boys sing very well on that Andy Williams episode.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: February 15, 2018, 04:50:41 AM
I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.

When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.

I said before that the album would fare far better without the covers disc. 

In terms of sales? I don't think this artist garners any significant number of sales  Grin
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: February 14, 2018, 10:05:28 AM
I think us detractors wouldn't give a damn about his solo output. He's a free individual who can do as he likes with his lacking solo career.

When he does tasteless (shite) re-recordings of classical tracks by the Beach Boys, while pretending to be the Beach Boys, which he is not as he didn't write a fraction of the songs and contributed lyrics only in the beginning, then we'll berate him, and justifiably so I might add.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Alternate 'Smile Sessions' Box Set (Fan Mix) on: February 13, 2018, 10:54:50 AM
f*** me!
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike & Bruce 2018 Tour Thread on: February 13, 2018, 03:07:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UjNN1Qo2S7Y

"This is a song we did on Full House...".

No mention of Dennis. Pictures of Stamos' wedding in the background. I really hate to join in on the bashing, but man, this is painful stuff. What a shitty time to be a "Beach Boys" fan.

He talks about decency being at an all-time low, but he has he considered his own actions when appropriating the song by Dennis Wilson, without credit, and who was the very soul of the Beach Boys?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike & Bruce 2018 Tour Thread on: February 10, 2018, 06:59:09 AM
I hate Mike Love.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love in New Issue of Mojo - \ on: January 25, 2018, 06:29:39 AM
Mike Love is the Donald Trump of the entertainment world. Even has the same supporters!
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Will there ever be a Phil Spector anthology? on: December 15, 2017, 02:32:37 PM
Phil Spector, a flawed man and now a convicted criminal, was arguably one of the foremost producers of pop music in his time. His songwriting contributions, mastery of production and arrangement to create entirely new listening experiences cannot be understated. There is no doubt that the music he created deserves a proper packaging including remastered and stereo versions of his classic hits with all the artists that worked with him.

Is this now an impossibility due to his fallen status? Will his music ever get the well-deserved treatment it should have?
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Top 3 Favorite Solo Albums on: December 08, 2017, 03:19:16 AM
Pacific Ocean Blue

BW 88

Bambu
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Copyright extension items released on: December 08, 2017, 03:14:41 AM
Listened to a couple of tracks via Amazon Music. Always love to hear vocal only tracks of BB songs. And "Tune L" - what in the world ? Intriguing.
Going back to bed now for a couple of hours (it's about 0400 now) and will give the two releases (Sunshine Tomorrow 2/Sunshine Live) a more proper listen probably this evening.

Sounds like a precursor to "California Slide" I believe.


A marvellous release indeed! 1967 went from being a "dark year" to one of the best documented years of the groups history in a very short time Smiley

Let's hope 1968, 1970 and 1974/75 get some similar treatment in the upcoming years!
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This is it: The best single disc Beach Boys comp ever released on: December 07, 2017, 11:32:27 AM
Would be a perfect compilation without California Dreamin' on it. Also, this one has the best sounding Surf's Up I've heard on CD.

I feel like ‘California Dreamin’ is one Beach Boys song that could desperately use a remix. Ditch those horrendous drums, put some tasteful strings in the background and you’ve got a really beautiful cover.

And OP, I totally agree. This comp has everything for any kind of fan.

One of my first albums by these guys was a comp called ‘Summer Love Songs’ and the inclusion of Denny’s ‘Lady (Fallin In Love)’ made me realize this band went beyond the sound of sunshine harmonies - really got me intrigued to hear more from this band, and I’d imagine that The Warmth Of The Sun comp has that same effect on people.


A good idea, however it might be considered slightly revisionist to effectively change the sound of a released song like that. Could be a project for the Mike Love band!
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: On first seeing the back cover of Holland on: December 01, 2017, 12:42:56 PM
I love Holland but I'm seeing the LP back for the first time. Very interesting that they made a point of identifying each member as 'composer' and 'lyricist'.




I think it's really cool. Showing the diverse songwriting abilities inside the group. I also suspect that they thought Holland was a strong album and wanted to highlight the fact that it was not due to Brian compositions only. A way for the Boys to highlight their maturation as composers and musicians not defined by the BW ghost hanging over them at all times. Sad that it didn't last for long.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Noel Gallagher hates Brian Wilson on: December 01, 2017, 12:39:21 PM
I recall watching a clip some years ago where he talked about the Beach Boys as the most overrated music. To him that might be the case, but to others it is the opposite. Such is the subjectivity of qualitatively rating music.

He does however come across as very crude individual in the way he targets other artists, quite needlessly I might add.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 22, 2017, 07:15:53 AM
LOL

Hell, I got some vocal only Mike leads from through the years..I'm gonna autotune the holy hell out of it and put a beat behind it



To late....






The image on the album cover must be the image Mike Love has of himself.
He must really want to convince everyone that he's not what people believe him to be.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love - Unleash the Love - Due November 17 - w/ 2nd Disc of BB Remakes on: November 20, 2017, 04:33:44 PM
Interesting if nothing else that Amazon is locking down the reviews. They've done this on other products, usually things that have quickly sold out and thus see a bunch of reviews from people complaining that they didn't get it.

Amazon did this with the Megyn Kelly book when Trump supporters organized an online campaign to bombard it 1 star reviews on its first day of release.

I'm loathe to order again on Amazon but this CD appears to be of the mail order only variety. No brick and mortar store in my area is carrying it.

They also bombarded Hillary Clinton’s book as well. Though, keeping in mind this happens on both sides of the spectrum: Mike Love fans are giving this this thing 5 stars without actually reviewing the damn album, just complaining about the 1 star reviews.

There are Mike Love fans?
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