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251  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New album info (as it rolls out...) on: February 25, 2012, 03:11:55 PM
Congratulations on telling us what we all knew anyway. Your point is ?
Read the thread and you'll see exactly what my point is. People pissing and moaning that every song should be brand spanking new. That ain't gonna happen in Beach Boys world. Why argue this stuff. If you know your Beach Boys history, you know that there is always a good chance of old songs being used on new albums.
at wasn't the point I was making at all. I think everyone knows the album will feature some material familiar to "collectors." My point was simply that I would prefer the album be an all-new recording, with only the current lineup performing. No ghostly, edited in vocals, please.
My point entirely, I'm not moaning I welcome any new album, exactly as they want it, Just my personal preference for a new song cycle.
Same here. I will be happy with anything the boys put out, and I am well aware of their pedigree, often finishing older songs for a new album.

The only thing that has me worried is the choice of "Do it Again" as a lead-off promo (hoping it will be on the album only as a bonus track). There is also a history here - Postcard from California is riddled with remakes and Al seems to still be in that mindset; the last album we got from the Boys was Stars and Stripes, which was all remakes.

If the group wants to use a Carl vocal, that's a-OK with me, especially since it is a previously unheard song. I am actually a big fan of "Free as a Bird" and "Real Love." I just hope they don't go back to the well of old songs and old ideas too often for the new record.

They already led off an album with "Do it Again," and that album was 20/20. See my point?
Real Love was pretty good, but hey I'm a BB's fan, I expect better than alright. Thats how much I respect these guys. If an old song 9s reworked then we will all have a jaundiced view of it.
252  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIU .. wow underrated album on: February 25, 2012, 01:57:13 PM
I'm the leader of the gang I am!
253  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New album info (as it rolls out...) on: February 25, 2012, 01:47:41 PM
Congratulations on telling us what we all knew anyway. Your point is ?
Read the thread and you'll see exactly what my point is. People pissing and moaning that every song should be brand spanking new. That ain't gonna happen in Beach Boys world. Why argue this stuff. If you know your Beach Boys history, you know that there is always a good chance of old songs being used on new albums.

That wasn't the point I was making at all. I think everyone knows the album will feature some material familiar to "collectors." My point was simply that I would prefer the album be an all-new recording, with only the current lineup performing. No ghostly, edited in vocals, please.
My point entirely, I'm not moaning I welcome any new album, exactly as they want it, Just my personal preference for a new song cycle.
254  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New album info (as it rolls out...) on: February 25, 2012, 12:35:32 AM
I think some things are more suited for archival release. Especially when you get to things like this song, which go back so far. (And which may well show up the rest of the more recent material on the record.) You have to draw the line somewhere, right?

Perhaps, but judging the song solely on Adam Marsland's cover, I would conclude that "WIBNTLA" was a very good, but not earth-shattering song.

Even if including "WIBNTLA" is out of the question, I find it ridiculous that Dennis would have no presence on this new record. He was no less of a Beach Boy than either of his two brothers.

Frankly, I would prefer that neither be on there. It would be interesting to hear what the band can do today. Old recordings just make the whole thing seem weird to me.
I'm with you, leave the old stuff for an archival release. Lets have the band as they are now.
255  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIU .. wow underrated album on: February 25, 2012, 12:31:48 AM
Unfortunately, by having to heavily caveat your praise with "taken for what it is" your essentially saying it's rubbish but if you accept that then it's good rubbish. Accepting that it's lightweight and viewing that as the benchmark for rating the album is not really rating it at all. It's a poor album (excepting My Dianne and Pitter Patter and the production is pretty limp on PP). We will all listen to it often as we're BB's freaks but would you play it to friends?
256  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 23, 2012, 02:05:07 PM
C'mon BB85 sounds like sh*t, you'd never play it to a novice as their introduction to the Beach Boys. It's wimpy and cold sounding and the songs bar Male Ego are lifeless. Even Neil Youngs Landing on Water sounds better, very 80's but at least committed and idiosyncratic not just bland.
257  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 23, 2012, 05:21:56 AM
Which album would it be?(An over-all album that has a Beach Boys feel to it..to show that even after everything happened they still had it.) I'm about to do an experiment Smiley

I suggest The Byrds Notorious Byrds Brothers........ very Beach Boys feel, but psychedelic!

wonderful album that would have godly if the byrds didn't implode.
One of the greatest albums ever made. I don't find it in anyway reminicent of the Beach Boys but it is utterly magnificent in every way.
258  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIU .. wow underrated album on: February 19, 2012, 12:26:44 PM
My Diane and Pitter Patter get a lot of plays round here. The rest don't. Kona Coast makes me wretch.
259  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New album info (as it rolls out...) on: February 19, 2012, 12:23:16 PM
Given Brian's run of albums since BWPS I think a great album is well within their grasp. Really at the moment we know zip about the new material. I'll not bother speculating on what might be from the info given so far in interviews. My personal preference would be that it's all new Brian Wilson compositions in collaboration with whoever he chooses and if other band member material is included it is because it merits inclusion. No remakes or finishing tracks by Dennis or Carl . All new stuff please boys.
260  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 16, 2012, 01:59:39 PM
Yeh got to agree Surf's Up's probably the best album for getting people into the band. It's got it all. It was the one that got my brother into them. Failing that I tend to think Brians solo debut or BWPS might be gateway albums. A couple of people I know have worked their way back from those into the BB's work.
261  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 10, 2012, 03:55:16 PM
I introduced my partner to The Beach Boys the other day by showing him stuff from Adult/Child. He loved it.

He may be an exception though, he loves Dean Martin people like him.

To a regular music listener, probably Holland for progressive fans or BB85 for pop/rock fans (The 85 album is a strong pop album to anyone less critical discerning than Beach Boys fans, I've turned a few people on to them using this one)
Do not play BB85 to anyone, unless you want to get rid of them!
what about getcha back? or i do love you? those are good Smiley
They're average songs and they sound horrible and the rest are well below par, though I do enjoy Male Ego. That album is unlikely to entice anyone into the wonderful world of the BB's.
male ego is so scary and sounds so un-cool and "old" i can picture a great grandfather singing it on the balcony or something smh
I can accept that, there's nothing remotely cool about BB 85. I still listen to Male Ego though occasionally and enjoy it. The rest I'll pass on.
I Do Love You is one of the best bb songs to ever be recorded...harmonica by stevie wonder and carl singing his heart out..how could you not love that?
"One of the best", c'mon I could name 100 better than that. If you like it though I can go with that. Enjoy!
262  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 10, 2012, 03:28:40 PM
I introduced my partner to The Beach Boys the other day by showing him stuff from Adult/Child. He loved it.

He may be an exception though, he loves Dean Martin people like him.

To a regular music listener, probably Holland for progressive fans or BB85 for pop/rock fans (The 85 album is a strong pop album to anyone less critical discerning than Beach Boys fans, I've turned a few people on to them using this one)
Do not play BB85 to anyone, unless you want to get rid of them!
what about getcha back? or i do love you? those are good Smiley
They're average songs and they sound horrible and the rest are well below par, though I do enjoy Male Ego. That album is unlikely to entice anyone into the wonderful world of the BB's.
male ego is so scary and sounds so un-cool and "old" i can picture a great grandfather singing it on the balcony or something smh
I can accept that, there's nothing remotely cool about BB 85. I still listen to Male Ego though occasionally and enjoy it. The rest I'll pass on.
263  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 10, 2012, 03:14:42 PM
I introduced my partner to The Beach Boys the other day by showing him stuff from Adult/Child. He loved it.

He may be an exception though, he loves Dean Martin people like him.

To a regular music listener, probably Holland for progressive fans or BB85 for pop/rock fans (The 85 album is a strong pop album to anyone less critical discerning than Beach Boys fans, I've turned a few people on to them using this one)
Do not play BB85 to anyone, unless you want to get rid of them!
what about getcha back? or i do love you? those are good Smiley
They're average songs and they sound horrible and the rest are well below par, though I do enjoy Male Ego. That album is unlikely to entice anyone into the wonderful world of the BB's.
264  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If You Could Choose One Post Pet Sounds Album For A New Listener To Check Out... on: February 10, 2012, 02:15:32 PM
I introduced my partner to The Beach Boys the other day by showing him stuff from Adult/Child. He loved it.

He may be an exception though, he loves Dean Martin people like him.

To a regular music listener, probably Holland for progressive fans or BB85 for pop/rock fans (The 85 album is a strong pop album to anyone less critical discerning than Beach Boys fans, I've turned a few people on to them using this one)
Do not play BB85 to anyone, unless you want to get rid of them!
265  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's Most Personal Song on: January 29, 2012, 10:57:50 AM
It's Not Easy Being Me.
266  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul McCartney tapes MTV's Unplugged this day in 1991 on: January 28, 2012, 09:50:02 AM
There's no better Macca records than RAM and McCartney II IMHO.
Agreed, though I rate Back to the Egg and Chaos & Creation pretty close to those two.
267  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul McCartney tapes MTV's Unplugged this day in 1991 on: January 28, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
LOL "Come On, People" is one of McCartney's best IMO.
Really? I love the man's music, but that one is a stinker. There's only a couple of tracks on Off The Ground that I ever go back to. I found the band during that period just too bland.
268  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Second Favorite Band Next to the Beachboys on: January 27, 2012, 01:18:05 PM
The Holy Triumvirate for me, are the Beach Boys, Dylan and the Who. Brian Wilson, Bob Dylan and Pete Townshend are the greatest songwriters of our time in my book, however I could name another 10 I whose music I would not like to live without!
269  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Paul McCartney tapes MTV's Unplugged this day in 1991 on: January 27, 2012, 01:07:44 PM
I tend to think 1989 throught 1993, Flowers In the Dirt to Off the Ground is Macca's weakest period.
270  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Smile Sessions MONO - a disaster for the Beach Boys' Legacy on: January 24, 2012, 05:31:28 AM
Treat SMiLE with the respect it deserves, big speakers, no distractions, eyes closed! If you listen to music this good on an I-pod - you are inhabited by satan!
271  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BW backs ND on Delirious Love, live on: January 23, 2012, 11:00:18 AM
The whole album this track is on is great, and that performance is a treat. Brian really seems to be enjoying it. Lovely stuff.
272  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who hated SMiLE? on: January 22, 2012, 12:56:14 PM
My mate Dave hates SMiLE!
273  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paley Sessions arrangements on: January 20, 2012, 05:04:02 AM
Jeez, get yourself both the Gershwin & Disney albums immediately, Brians vocals are fantastic and the Gershwin album might just be the most satisfying of his solo career. I am however of the opinion that the Paley sessions could have produced his finest solo album had the tracks been completed. 
274  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Paley Sessions arrangements on: January 18, 2012, 02:02:27 PM
The Wilson/Paley stuff sounds like a pretty collaborative effort on all fronts to me. Some of the arrangements and production are fantastic. Chain Reaction of Love, Getting In Over My Head, It's Not Easy Being Me, Soul Searching are among my favourite BW recordings. Any specific details on writing, production and arranging credits would be gratefully received. This material seems to split opinions.
275  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: VDP on new Ringo Starr Album on: January 18, 2012, 01:53:41 PM
From memory, VDP arranges and possibly plays on Ringo's Stop and Smell the Roses album. If I'm not wrong I think the songs are Drumming is My Madness and the title track. Drumming Is My Madness actually has one of the worst drum breaks ever but both tracks are amusing. A host of notable others, McCartney, Harrison, Stephen Stills, Ron Wood included also appear on said lp.
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