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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Do you prefer SMiLE as a 3 movements piece or as 12-14 tracks? on: June 16, 2014, 03:25:23 PM
 The movements are fine, but isn't it almost certain that SMILE would have originally ended with "Surf's Up" rather than "Good Vibrations"? Making "Good Vibrations" the closer in 2004 and 2011 was a revisionist touch I never cared for, even though the second movement ("Wonderful" -"Surf's Up") works beautifully.
Agreed!  I can see how GV works in terms of the concert performance as kind of a show stopper, but you've gotta have "Surf's Up" as the final track on Smile in my book.  I thought that the three suites worked well live, but it's not how I prefer to listen to the original Smile material.  I go for separate tracks in kind of a modified Americana/Elemental configuration, mainly sticking with the back cover listing (plus my own mix of Dada/Water):

Our Prayer
H&V
IIGS/Barnyard
OMP/YAMS
Worms
Cabinessence
Wonderful
Vegetables
Wind Chimes
Fire
Dada
Child
Surf's Up

I enjoy a good segue as much as the next guy and I can see why it's tempting to try something like that with Smile, but it starts to feel a little gimmicky after a while.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Beach Boys Survivor #11: SMiLE on: December 16, 2013, 02:15:38 PM
Good Vibrations - the winner of best SMiLE song should be a proper SMiLE song
Agreed.  Though I'm sure GV would have made it on to a hypothetical '67 Smile, it doesn't really fit the vibe of the rest of the material, IMO.  I always think of it as its own entity, the bridge between Pet Sounds and Smile.  I also don't like the placement of GV at the end of the sequence on the 2011 approximation.  It made a little more sense as a show stopper for the concerts, but I'll always think of Surf's Up as the true closing statement for Smile.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has Mike Love ever taken a tiny bit of responsibility for SMiLE's demise? on: August 01, 2013, 09:08:15 AM
The perplexing about Mike Love - and there are many - is that he didn't "get" SMiLE back in the day, he doesn't "get" SMiLE today, and he probably never will. . .
Great post all around.  It does seem like he was locked into a particular vision of who the Beach Boys were and was resistant to "blankety-blank with the formula" at times.  I am no Mike Love apologist, but I see no reason for him to accept responsibility for with regards to Smile.  As a vocalist, he was well within his rights to question the lyrics he was singing, even though I personally disagree with his assessment of Van Dyke Parks' work.  At the end of the day, Mike did his job there and did it well.  Everyone who is familiar with the story knows that Brian pulled the plug on the project all by himself for a complicated set of reasons.  Even if all of the Beach Boys had been gung ho about Smile, I'm not convinced that it would have made a difference.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC up for order on Amazon, August release on: July 30, 2013, 04:21:02 AM

Wow, I've only heard WIBNTLA a couple times, but I don't agree with the following at all:


"… There are moments that evoke The Beatles’ 'Penny Lane' … the song embarks on a Jethro Tull-like soundscape…"


Aw man, I was kind of looking forward to the idea of the Beach Boys going all progressive rock here.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Student Demonstration Time on: June 22, 2013, 10:55:22 AM
And, when it comes to the question of the mixing of art and money, the myth of the starving artist as repository of truth is debatable.
Sorry, but this sounds like another straw man argument to me.  No one is objecting to the fact that the Beach Boys wanted to be successful and that they needed to reinvent themselves for a new decade, but when the group suddenly gets into a range of explicit political issues that had rarely touched on by them before or since, it's hard not to wonder what was driving that.  I don't blame them for writing songs about surfing and cars early in their career in an attempt to win over a broad audience, but to take on complicated political topics in such a hamfisted manner, at the urging of their manager for the sake of burnishing their image does seem a bit cynical to me.  Would they have felt compelled to pursue this course if they were still scoring hits with more traditional Beach Boys fare?
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: June 19, 2013, 03:22:33 PM
Is it just me, or does Brian look like he's masturbating in your avatar?

Not just you!   LOL

Clearly Blondie and Ricky were full fledged members of the band, but their songs don't quite feel like Beach Boys songs to me--they sound more like Traffic or something--so it contributes to a sense of stylistic schizophrenia, particularly on Carl & the Passions.  But they certainly helped with their live performances.  In Concert might be their most enduring legacy with the band.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Student Demonstration Time on: June 19, 2013, 09:29:39 AM
I have no problem with the music or even the message, only the lyrics which sound trite and forced - kind of like Don't Go Near the Water, another cringe worthy effort from Mr. Love.  They should have kept this number as the cover of Riot in Cell Block 9 which is where they copped the music from.  Solid version of it at Big Sur 1970.
I've always found something amusing and ironic about the Beach Boys singing "Don't Go Near The Water", kind of an interesting inversion for them.  Yeah, he lyrics are pretty trite and the "tooth paste & soap will make the oceans a bubble bath" line always gives me a chuckle, but at least ecology was still a fairly fresh topic back then.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC up for order on Amazon, August release on: June 19, 2013, 09:24:13 AM
Look, it's expensive for me too. It's expensive, period! But this is what we were told we were getting, so quit bitching and buck up and buy it (the price should come down), or don't bother. @ Bean Bag & Shady: Are you two grown-ups or kids? If kids, then excuse my little rant.
Maybe not the loftiest perch on the high-ground, but at least it's understandable.
Personally, I don't buy the "this is what we were told we were getting, so shut up" line.  Would it have been acceptable to criticize the set many months ago when it was first announced or would the same people be telling us, "Relax!  You haven't even seen the track listing yet."?  Naturally, we all wanted to hope for the best, so we waited to see the overall selection (along with the price and packaging) before evaluating further.  In my view, it is legitimate to criticize the strategy they've pursued here, as well as the actual selection, though some of the angst has gone over the top and I'm reserving final judgement until I can actually hear the thing.  For the record, I'd characterize myself as somewhat disappointed from a bang for the buck perspective, but I still want it and plan to wait for a while until the price becomes more reasonable.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Student Demonstration Time on: June 19, 2013, 09:05:36 AM
I always thought it was a powerful record. Most Beach Boys fans I met who don't like it tend not to like hard rock so much. Not a put down just in my experience.
Not me.  I dig Hendrix, Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, the Who.  I've just never felt that that this was the Beach Boys' strong suit, though I would agree that the live version is preferable.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC up for order on Amazon, August release on: June 19, 2013, 08:38:38 AM
A sizable amount of the Smile set was stuff that fans already had, too. And much of it -- most likely a couple of discs worth -- had been previously released.
Of course, but it was the freakin' official release of the Beach Boys' Smile, decades in the making!  For fans of that era, it had more cachet than another career spanning box with the usual suspects.  Also, in that case, we had the option of the more reasonably priced two disc edition for people who are on a budget.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Student Demonstration Time on: June 19, 2013, 08:01:20 AM
I agree with the OP about the need for more of a high energy track on Surf's Up, though I think I would have preferred "Sound of Free" here.  There are a couple of problems with SDT:  First, I've never found the Beach Boys to be particularly convincing in heavy rock mode.  It usually comes off sounding forced or wimpy, though this track is arguably more effective than some of their other efforts in this vein.  More problematic are the lyrics.  It's seems like he's really straining to be relevant and engage with some serious issues, but he doesn't have anything meaningful to say about them.  He brings up all of this strife and protest, but then the final conclusion is like "Yeah, it's a real drag, man, best just to avoid it altogether."  Those final lines seem like a disappointing cop out.  I don't think SDT is quite as bad as some make it out to be, but to me, it makes their Reilly inspired efforts to be socially relevant seem like kind of an empty pose. 
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MiC up for order on Amazon, August release on: June 15, 2013, 12:37:26 PM
Sorry if this has already been addressed, but is it safe to assume that the a capella "Can't Wait Too Long" on the forthcoming box is the same as the one featured on the Hawthorne, CA collection?  I was really hoping that we might get the early "Been Way Too Long" with the more elaborate vocal intro here (the one featured on some of the old Smile boots).
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Made In California set for August 27th!!!! on: June 11, 2013, 06:01:08 AM
We have confirmation of the late August release here via Rolling Stone!

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/beach-boys-to-cap-50th-anniversary-with-career-spanning-box-set-20130611

Eat it, Cohen!

Here's a description from Amazon.


    The Beach Boys have opened their archives for a new career-spanning, six-CD collection titled Made In California, capping the legendary band's 50th Anniversary celebrations. Made In California features more than seven and a half hours of music, including more than 60 previously unreleased tracks. The deluxe set is presented in a high school annual-inspired hardbound book with personal recollections from the band's members, replicated classic artwork and memorabilia, photos from the band's archive, and handwritten yearbook-style inscriptions from Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Mike Love, Al Jardine, Bruce Johnston, and David Marks.

    Made In California chronologically charts the 50-year career of America's Band, from their earliest demos to their most recent recordings. With huge hits and rare gems including never-before-released original songs, home demos, alternate takes and mixes, and live concert, television and radio performances, the set showcases the breadth and diversity of The Beach Boys' recorded catalog and illustrates the band's unique and evocative West Coast story. From 'Surfin' Safari' to 'God Only Knows,' 'Wouldn't It Be Nice' and 'Good Vibrations' to 'Kokomo,' The Beach Boys' canon boasts a masterful versatility that is unparalleled in American popular music.

    Made In California's memorabilia includes Brian Wilson's 1959 high school essay titled 'My Philosophy,' which is reproduced in the collection's book in its original handwritten form (the original is currently on display in The GRAMMY Museum's yearlong Beach Boys exhibit celebrating the band's 50-year career).

    Made In California's previously unreleased and long sought-after recordings include 'Goin' To The Beach,' 'California Feelin',' 'Soul Searchin',' 'You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling,' and 'You're Still A Mystery,' among others. The set also debuts 17 unreleased live recordings, including 'Runaway' (1965), 'Friends' and 'Little Bird' (1968), 'Wild Honey' (1972), 'It's About Time' (1973), 'Wonderful' and 'Vegetables' from The Beach Boys' legendary 1993 acoustic tour, and a 1995 rendition of 'Sail On, Sailor' featuring a soulful lead vocal by the late Carl Wilson. The greatly missed talents of Carl and Dennis Wilson are also celebrated with rare and previously unreleased recordings including Dennis' '(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again,' 'Barnyard Blues' and 'My Love Lives On,' Carl's lead vocals on 'Da Doo Ron Ron' and 'Soul Searchin',' and Carl's shared lead with Bruce and Brian on 'California Feelin'.'

    The set also features a special 'From The Vaults' disc of rarities selected by the band and the producers with longtime Beach Boys fans in mind. Among the disc's highlights are a cappella mixes of standout vocal recordings for songs including 'This Whole World' and 'Slip On Through,' alternate versions of 'Don't Worry Baby' and other Beach Boys classics, session highlights and instrumental tracks, plus newly-discovered BBC Radio live recordings from 1964 of 'Wendy,' 'When I Grow Up (To Be A Man),' and 'Hushabye.'

14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Track talk #9: Can't Wait Too Long on: December 17, 2012, 04:23:12 PM
There's another snippet that's out there called "Been Way Too Long" that no one has mentioned.
If I'm not mistaken, that's the Wild Honey era outtake that sockitome referred to earlier, which is basically just an earlier, shorter version of the song we know with a more elaborate SMiLE-style vocal intro and a more propulsive beat.  It was on some key boots back in the day.  I hope it's included on the forthcoming box set, or maybe they'll attempt some sort of remix.  

So who was playing on these sessions?  If it was originally recorded during the Wild Honey period, when exactly were the later sessions held?  

I think that "Can't Wait Too Long" would have made an outstanding addition to any of their late 60's albums.  It might have fit best on the hodge podge that is 20/20, but I also think that it would have made a great closer on Friends (much better than TM!).  It's definitely one of the top Beach Boys outtakes outside of SMiLE.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Should They Call It A Day After This Tour? on: June 19, 2012, 08:20:44 AM
Here's what I envision:  After the tour wraps up, Brian goes back and completes the full Life Suite.  Then the Beach Boys take up residency in some theater in L.A. and do a series of acclaimed shows featuring that, followed by a complete performance of SMiLE.  They release an award winning CD/DVD package of the event, helping to solidify their commercial/critical renaissance.  Hey, it could happen!   Cool Guy
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Alternate Slip on Through Backing Track on: June 19, 2012, 08:15:04 AM
I'd love to hear this.  I always thought that this was a great, unusual kind of song for the Beach Boys.  Too bad it flopped as a single.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Heroes and Villains and Good Vibrations on the tour on: June 12, 2012, 06:30:16 AM
It’s kind of fascinating to read this thread and get another glimpse of the various different factions within the Beach Boys’ fan community.  Given some of kappa’s presumptuous, biased assertions, I think I can finally understand why some longtime fans get aggravated with those that are exclusively drawn to their 1966/1967 period—and I speak as a huge fan of that stuff.  Honestly, kappa, you’re giving us Smile-heads a bad name with your narrow minded focus on that brilliant but brief phase of their career.

To be honest, I never really connected with the Beach Boys much when I was young.  I was more of a British Invasion kind of kid and while the Boys were catchy, I couldn’t relate to the subject matter or their seemingly clean cut image.  I changed my tune big time in the 90’s by way of Pet Sounds, the I Just Wasn’t Made For These Times doc, and the Smile material, my abiding obsession.  The fact that this stuff was so strange and different from the big hits I was familiar with made it all the more intriguing.  But getting exposed to that stuff opened me up to the broader brilliance of their whole catalog—both their earlier hits (and excellent albums like Today! and Summer Days…) and the “wilderness years” of the late 60’s and the 70’s, as the rest of the band stepped up to help fill the void left by Brian.  Needless to say, there’s a lot more to the Beach Boys’ legacy than just Pet Sounds/Smile.  

Would I like to see them feature more of their arty, experimental stuff, particularly material from Smile?  Sure, but I really wasn’t expecting much of that from this tour and it seems pretty churlish to turn your nose up at its exclusion.  This is reunion tour is a celebration of their entire body of work, not just their ambitious artistic heyday, and I’m sure that the majority of fans are coming to see the big hits, the catchy “fun in the sun” fare, not the Grammy winning Mrs. O’Leary’s Cow.  I’m pleased to see them pulling out some more offbeat material like All This Is That and California Saga, along with plenty of Pet Sounds, offering a broader, balanced picture of their work.  As others have suggested, I imagine Brian is just as reluctant to revisit Smile as Mike is at this juncture—remember, Brian was the one who resisted its release for so long and who has long been ambivalent about it.  (I may have briefly bought into the whole “Mike as villain who wouldn’t allow them to f*ck with the formula” myth back in the 90’s, but the reality is a lot more complicated than that and for all his faults, I’ve made my peace with Big Love.) The idea that a significant number of “fans” are passing this tour up because they’re not doing enough Smile is laughable and it’s more than a little presumptuous of a narrowly focused newbie to seek to impose his wishes on the vast majority who have loved the Boys for decades and appreciate their entire body of work.  If they ever decide to break out Do You Like Worms?, I'll be thrilled, but until then, I'll gladly groove to I Get Around, Please Let Me Wonder and Marcella.  
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Poor Album Review in Uncut Music Magazine on: May 22, 2012, 04:55:33 AM
Who cares what music mags think?

Typical rock music magazine thinking.  "Blah blah blah The Beatles, blah blah blah The Sex Pistols, blah blah blah U2, blah blah blah Oasis, blah blah blah Coldplay".

Anyone else is always going to be considered secondary.
I dunno, I've always gotten the impression that Uncut and Mojo hold Brian Wilson and the Beach Boys in very high esteem.  There was a lot of hoopla surrounding SMiLE, both the Brian Wilson version and the recent box.  I don't think they would be so quick to dismiss a new album featuring all of the surviving members as more of a 'hipster' Spin type of publication might.  It's just one guy's opinion, of course, but I guess fans should brace themselves for more of the same, though I expect a mixture of different reactions.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So much for all the good feeling on: April 26, 2012, 12:25:40 PM
Nothin' to see here people.  Just a lot of vague hearsay and gossip spread by nameless "insiders".
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Holy Bee returns with latest crackpot theory: SMiLE almost done in Nov 66 on: April 11, 2012, 09:55:09 AM
I know I’m a little late to the party, but what a fantastic thread!  It really goes to show you how far our understanding of SMiLE has come from the dark ages of 90’s (Link tracks?  Forgetaboutit!).  I find HB’s core thesis to be pretty convincing—that the project was buzzing along nicely in the fall, getting nearer to completion than we might have previously suspected and then things quickly go awry in December. 

Now, I wouldn’t want to go too far here because even leaving aside the major question marks of IIGS and the Elements, there are still other gray areas:  What about Child, which apparently had no finished lyrics or lead vocal line?  Yes, we know the basic structure, but it still remains hauntingly incomplete.  The same could be said of Worms.  We know what Brian did with the verses in 2003 and we have that small vocal fragment now from the sessions, though I’m not entirely convinced that this is how it would have turned out back then. 

And then we have the two potential singles, H&V and V-T.  Yes, there were early versions from October, but I’m not sure how well these prototypes would have worked on a finished album.  The V-T demo is great as far as it goes, but it feels like it’s missing something at the end and ultimately Brian needed to bring in something else to complete it (which might lead one to believe that this would have originally been stitched into a larger Elemental suite, but then why was it broken out on the track listing?).  And while the musical comedy idea behind H&V Mach I is tantalizing, that disjointed early structure was never going to fly as a single.  What’s striking about so many of the SMiLE tracks is the almost complete absence of traditional choruses and I wouldn’t be at all surprised if someone (maybe Mike or Carl) brought this to Brian’s attention as the focus shifted over to the lead singles heading into the new year.  He ultimately had to draft in other bits to complete the songs and this is what led to some of the cannibalization we saw in ‘67.  Actually, I guess this was first done with Iron Horse in Cabinessence, then Do A Lot for V-T and Bicycle Rider for H&V.

It’s hard not to look at the timeline there, along with the comments from people like Vosse and Siegel, and draw the conclusion that some of the negative reactions on the part of the Boys, the difficulties that apparently arose in those December vocal sessions, rattled Brian a bit, planting the seeds of doubt in his mind (All that hash probably didn’t help either!).  Suddenly, his euphoric trip started turning into a heavy bummer.  I’m really not trying to point the finger at anyone and honestly, I could see how such questions might arise when only Brian understood how all the pieces would likely fit together (and not even then sometimes!).  As has been mentioned, I think the point about performing these songs live would have been pretty significant for the band and in fact, Carl later mentioned that as a major concern for Mike.  It is striking how quickly Brian’s enthusiasm from the fall curdled, but the growing tension within the band, pressure from the label to deliver a sellable product and yes, maybe even the Murry factor probably all played a part.  On the surface, Brian came across as a very confident guy who knew what he wanted in the studio, but he also had a lot of insecurities underneath.  He wanted to please people and he might have felt hurt those around him didn’t seem to get what he was going for.  I suppose this is ultimately what led to him scrapping the entire thing and starting over again with Smiley Smile, though it surely would have been easier to salvage at least a few more of the spare parts from the original sessions—maybe he just couldn’t bear the thought of releasing something that was so special to him, particularly a song like Surf’s Up, only to have it be rejected or misunderstood.  Maybe the relatively lukewarm response to Pet Sounds served as a warning sign here.  I remember reading a little quote of his from the late 60’s (I believe) with reference to SMiLE where he said something like, sometimes you just do a little piece of music for yourself, not to be shared.  It was almost like, hey, you don’t get my genius?  Fine, I’ll keep it to myself.  (Pure speculation on my part, I know!)

Looking at all of this, I’m often reminded of the similar struggles that Pete Townshend faced with his ambitious Lifehouse project.  He kept trying to explain the idea to others, but somehow it just wasn’t coming across and their early attempts to perform the new material in front of a live audience didn’t catch fire like he’d hoped.  Ultimately, they did use most of the key scraps from Lifehouse on Who’s Next, which proved to be their most successful album.  I often wonder how things might have turned out if Beach Boys taken a similar approach in ’67—I imagine it would have been less baffling than Smiley Smile.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling your own SMiLE – Tips for a novice? on: February 24, 2012, 02:45:31 PM
Interestingly, I've discovered that iTunes has a function whereby I can simply import wav files in mono.  Has anybody used this extensively?  Is that a reliable way to go for converting to mono?
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What's VDP's problem? on: February 24, 2012, 08:23:29 AM
Van Dyke considered himself a contracted employee of Brian's for Smile. His loyalty was to Brian. Mike was upset because Brian promised before Pet Sounds that he would write the album after Pet Sounds with Mike. Brian decided to write with Van instead. Mike felt Brian had not kept his promise. I think the whole Van/Mike argument is a straw man issue....Mike's beef was with Brian. Brian knew he had broken his commitment. It is no coincidence that the first single after Heroes was a BW/ML composition, Gettin' Hungry...issued under the name Brian Wilson and Mike Love. It is also no coincidence that nearly all the tunes on Wild Honey are Brian Wilson/ Mike Love songs. Brian felt he had to make his promise good to Mike.
Thanks for this perspective.  I think this story tells us a lot about the roots of Mike's unhappiness with the Smile project.  When I look at it from his perspective--coming back from a successful tour of England to hear these bizarre, fragmentary snippets that would be difficult to replicate on stage--it's not at all surprising that Mike wasn't pleased.  I also wonder if some of VDP's animosity towards Mike is misdirected disappointment with Brian for not sticking up for him more.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rolling your own SMiLE – Tips for a novice? on: February 24, 2012, 06:27:14 AM

If disc one is your primary source, stick with mono - just make sure you're vigilant with checking the levels when you fold down stereo recordings from the box. For instance, something like Dada (Rhodes), the piano in the left channel would bury the Rhodes mixed to mono as it's already at a much higher volume. Simple things like that.


So if one channel is noticeably louder in stereo, you should just manually bring down the volume or even the two channels out before converting to mono? 

Do people ever mix and match mono and stereo?  I want to go for a unified sound, but there are some tracks where stereo might work better.  I plan to end with Surf's Up, but rather than trying to do something fancy, I think I'll just start with the instrumental backing to the first part and then go into piano demo--simple, powerful.  I suppose I could convert the tracks from Disc 3 to mono, but I love the way it sounds as is.  Of course, this will likely be preceded by Child, which would need to be in mono, so the transition might be jarring.  (I really love disc 1 of TSS, but the new Child mix was a disappointment to me, so that's one of the key tracks I want to play with.)

Thanks for your advice, hypehat.  I imagine with a little practice, Audacity will be easy enough to use.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Rolling your own SMiLE – Tips for a novice? on: February 24, 2012, 05:36:26 AM
After taking some time to digest the SMiLE Sessions set, I think I’m about ready to get down to business with some editing and I was hoping to get some advice from the experts.  I have to admit that I’m not the most technologically savvy guy in the world, though I’ve done my own crude SMiLE mixes in the past.  I’m not planning on doing anything too revolutionary here, no vocal fly ins and such, mainly just some cutting and pasting, but I do have a few questions.

What’s the best program to use for editing?  I downloaded Audacity and have played with that a little bit, though I find the controls to be a little clumsy.  Is there anything better out there?

This may be a dumb question, but what’s the best file format to work in for optimal sound quality?  I downloaded TSS into my iTunes using Apple Lossless, but then Audacity said it couldn’t work with that.  So should I use MP3 or WAV?  (Told you I’m a luddite!)

Here’s the big question: Mono or stereo?  Since some of the tracks are only available in mono (and I will likely be using Disc 1 of TSS as my primary source in most cases), I’m inclined to go for a mono mix, which leads to my next question:  How does one make a “fold down” mono mix out of a stereo track? 

Do you have any other helpful tips for a beginner?  Your feedback would be greatly appreciated.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE A.D. v4.0: A Stereo Vocal Mix. on: January 24, 2012, 03:33:20 PM
 Thud

Thanks for sharing the awesome work you've done on these mixes!  I never thought I'd hear really convincing vocal approximations of songs like Look, Dada, and now Holidays.  I wasn't sure about the mono mix at first, but this new stereo version sounds excellent.  Keep up the great work! 
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