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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Visiting and House Shopping in Hawaii - July 1967 on: May 07, 2021, 09:01:04 AM
"Also, how did Carl get the sole production credit for TTGA if Brian was involved all the way?"

because the song literally was stolen from Brian

You keep stating things that are just factually untrue. Who do you think's singing lead in the chorus?

I know that it’s not a question, but iirc Brian & Al.

I agree, spreading false info or lying won’t get you anywhere hideyotsuburaya. If you weren’t at the sessions or have any evidence then don’t spread information if you don’t really know, or if you’re being a jerk. Just saying.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: May 03, 2021, 10:51:06 AM
The Twitter account @beachboyslegacy posted the following info, I have no idea whether the info is true or just a wish list, but I'd be very happy (esp för I've got a Friend) if it is true:

Feel Flows, The Beach Boys box-set, will include material from Dennis Wilson's lost album 'Poops/Hubba Hubba'. These are the tracks that will probably be in the set:

Settle Down
Ol' Movie
Behold The Night
It's A New Day
I've Got A Friend
Baby, Baby
All Of My Life/Ecology
 
Remember:
Settle Down: Sound Of Free early version
Ol' Movie: Cuddle Up early version
Behold The Night
It's A New Day: shampoo commercial
I've Got A Friend
Baby, Baby: performed live once by The Beach Boys
All Of My Life/Ecology = River Song early version

AGD said that Howie said just as much last year and it was pretty already known to be considered for the set. This is pretty much a reconfirmation or a repost just for the Twitter page.
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 03, 2021, 06:00:01 AM
I've got one question relating to We'll Run Away.

This is the link for reference: https://fridaynightboys300.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-beach-boys-1964-keep-eye-on-summer.html

26. Untitled Jam/Let’s Live Before We Die (Session Highlights and Instrumental) (3:24)
(Brian Wilson)

A short impromptu jam precedes the track for an unfinished and unreleased song called “Let’s Live Before We Die.” This very pretty track, boasting some very lush jazz styled chords, was recorded at the same session as “We’ll Run Away.”

UNTITLED JAM / LET’S LIVE BEFORE WE DIE
Arranged: Brian Wilson
Upright or Grand piano: Brian Wilson
Electric rhythm guitar: Carl Wilson
Electric bass guitar: Ray Pohlman
Drums: Hal Blaine
Track recorded at Western Recorders Studio 3, Hollywood, Wednesday April 29 or Thursday April 30, 1964, 10:30pm-1:30am ? (master is Take 15 ?)
Engineer: Chuck Britz
Recorded on 1/2″ 3-track tape

You thinking what I thinking?  Wink
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: May 03, 2021, 05:34:43 AM
Hmmm... Howie brought up Behold The Night on the Endless Harmony board version of this thread, so that's getting an official release, from what it looks like. Shocked
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 03, 2021, 05:31:22 AM
Thanks Craig for both of those. I should really start considering whether or not session tapes have been heard...

I have one question relating to the percussion overdubs on Time To Get Alone. Were they different from what was used in the final version (which has Vibraphone & Glockenspiel)? I heard somewhere on one of the threads that there were percussion overdubs on Oct. ‘67, which were then replaced by the vibes and glockenspiel the following year. Is that correct, or am I just tired?

The only new instrumentation added to Time to Get Alone for 20/20 was the glockenspiel and an unused 12-string guitar. Everything else, including vibes, came from '67.

Alright so the Vibraphone is absolutely Gene Pello. Who played the glockenspiel?

Not necessarily, Pello doesn't have any recognized mallet credits through his career. Strictly a drummer type. On that basis it's likely to be Brian.

As for the glockenspiel, that's a question that can't really be answered. At a guess, Brian again, or Dennis.

Looking at the information we have, no one else could have played the vibes except Brian. I should've guessed then.

Glockenspiel I would say was also Brian. Brian was the most dedicated to the song, so of course he would try to make sure it's perfect for release. I could be wrong but that's the impression I get.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: May 02, 2021, 12:24:29 PM


Where’s this picture from? Mid-70s?
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 02, 2021, 12:22:57 PM
Well, Bobby Figueroa wasn't used on the KTSA sessions, either (meaning, Mike Meros was the only guy from the then-current road band who was). As for Smilin' Ed...he DID make an  appearance at the session for THIS song, obviously invited to play on it because he wrote it. However, they recut the track a week later without him. Can't say for sure which version the vocals were added to, but presumably it was the second.

SURFER SUZIE (version 1) 
Track - United Western, 10/17/79 (Eng.: Chuck Britz)
Keyboards: Brian, Bruce, Mike Meros
Guitars: Ed Carter, Bill House
Bass: Jerry Scheff
Drums: Gary Mallaber

SURFER SUZIE (version 2)
Track - Kendun Recorders, 10/23/79 (Eng.: Steve Desper)
Keyboards: Bruce, Mike Meros
Guitars: Steve Ross, Bill House
Bass: Bryan Garofalo
Drums: Ricky Fataar
Overdubs - Rumbo, 10/29/79
Guitar: Bill House

Vocals - Jardine's Barn, Big Sur, 11/7/79
Vocals - Rumbo, 11/13/79
Vocals - Rumbo, 11/28/79
Vocals - Rumbo, 11/30/79
Vocals - Rumbo, 12/5//79
Vocals - Rumbo, 12/6//79
Lead: Al


Thanks Craig! Never knew that about there being 2 versions!
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: May 02, 2021, 12:21:49 PM
Thanks Craig for both of those. I should really start considering whether or not session tapes have been heard...

I have one question relating to the percussion overdubs on Time To Get Alone. Were they different from what was used in the final version (which has Vibraphone & Glockenspiel)? I heard somewhere on one of the threads that there were percussion overdubs on Oct. ‘67, which were then replaced by the vibes and glockenspiel the following year. Is that correct, or am I just tired?

The only new instrumentation added to Time to Get Alone for 20/20 was the glockenspiel and an unused 12-string guitar. Everything else, including vibes, came from '67.

Alright so the Vibraphone is absolutely Gene Pello. Who played the glockenspiel?
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 30, 2021, 07:02:14 PM
Maybe not the best question I asked...

Moving on...

Finally a non personnel question.

Why do you think that Ed Carter wasn’t used on KTSA?

And now for the question relating to personnel:

Who played on Surfer Suzie? Is there anything (afm, session tapes, etc) for the song?
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brother Re-Issues: Proposed Bonus Tracks on: April 30, 2021, 04:45:12 PM
Still hoping these tracks see the light of day soon.  🤞

I would want 3 things:

Carry Me Home getting released (make it happen!)
4th Of July being remixed... completely. Holy hell it sounds so bad.
Rollin’ Up In Heaven (Hard Time) being released, mainly because it’s a nice little ditty, f*cked up lyrics aside.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: April 30, 2021, 12:24:04 PM
This is a riot. From hoffman board.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pcsTrzTkY9A



Haha I actually liked that. My praise goes to him for making that.
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: April 30, 2021, 03:52:25 AM
Mike Love And Bruce Johnston On The Maury Povich Show (1992)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vucnOZEvVYQ


"Summern in Paradise", Stamos and Brian are the main topics as far as I can tell. There's a short piano-only version of GV's chorus.


!!! Maury before he became largely famous at helping/ruining people’s lives!  LOL
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 29, 2021, 04:05:56 PM
Thanks Craig for both of those. I should really start considering whether or not session tapes have been heard...

I have one question relating to the percussion overdubs on Time To Get Alone. Were they different from what was used in the final version (which has Vibraphone & Glockenspiel)? I heard somewhere on one of the threads that there were percussion overdubs on Oct. ‘67, which were then replaced by the vibes and glockenspiel the following year. Is that correct, or am I just tired?
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 28, 2021, 04:35:09 PM
Welp might as well start easy.

What keyboards were used on the single version of Cottonfields? If the keyboards are credited to Bruce and Daryl, then who played what? What keyboards can be heard in the final mix (because I don’t hear any to be honest).
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 27, 2021, 05:11:42 PM
What keyboards were used on Sunshine? Brian, Carl, Bruce & Ricci Martin were all credited by Craig on the sessionography as being “keyboards “, yet not only do I barely hear keyboards, I dunno who played which keyboards.
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 26, 2021, 04:04:33 PM
Might as well ask something to get it off my mind... two questions

1. Who played on I Went To Sleep? I already heard from one of the other threads on here that Jimmy Bond played double bass, Jay Migliori played flute and Brian played piano (the latter was obvious). I hear an acoustic guitar, bongos and tambourine. Also mentioned on one of those threads was a Chamberlin and I can very much hear one playing throughout the song.

2. Umm... is there a tambourine and Celeste on This Whole World? You can hear something (not a glockenspiel) at the beginning of the track and some other points in the song? Also hearing some percussion instrument being used during the verses that sounds like a tambourine, but I wouldn’t know for sure.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 26, 2021, 03:38:13 PM
You are correct, it was Sept. ‘75 when the track and vocals were being recorded.

I forgot to post the link of the song I was talking about lol

https://youtu.be/zqkS0s3P7wM

Aw I thought you were talking about back home... yeah then I have no idea. My apologies. :/
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 26, 2021, 08:46:20 AM
So it's pretty close to accurate then? I usually give my best guesses for this stuff (or at least try, when I fail). LOL
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 26, 2021, 06:11:16 AM
I have only one question today (it's gonna be a busy week)...

Who played on I Can Hear Music? According to the link, c-man says that Carl played guitar, Dennis played piano, Bruce played a Fender Rhodes (I'm assuming) & Dennis also played the basic drums on the track. Then there was a drum overdub (probably Carl). I also hear sleigh bells & bass on the track but I have no idea who could've played those. I'm guessing the bass is Al. Sleigh bells, no idea, literally anyone could've played those. It's a fairly self contained record so I'd say it was one of the boys.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9788.msg170403.html#msg170403
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 25, 2021, 05:18:57 PM
Now that I think about it... no. Never again I think. That was the only time. This leaves one to question where Dennis was that day during the tracking session if Carl, Bruce and Brian were there playing instruments.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 25, 2021, 05:01:48 PM
You are correct, it was Sept. ‘75 when the track and vocals were being recorded.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 25, 2021, 10:14:53 AM
Well... neither as it turns out. Ray Pohlman definitely plays rhythm guitar on The Girl from New York City, and the Fender bass actually seems to be Brian playing direct while he produces. Al isn't ruled out completely but there's no evidence of his presence on the tape.

Well Al was known to be relatively quiet during recording sessions. Maybe that’s it? Regardless I believe you in that Brian was on bass.
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 25, 2021, 08:36:23 AM
Just one question on here today:

We know that Al plays on The Girl From NYC. However I’ve seen two things. I once heard that Al played rhythm guitar on the beachboysarchives.com website. Now I’m looking at new threads that say Al played bass. Which one is correct?
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 24, 2021, 10:22:38 AM
Final question from me today? Who played on (Wouldn’t It Be Nice To) Live Again? It sounds like Dennis on piano. I hear a moog, a Celeste (both simple), flutes (I think that’s Charles Lloyd), and some pretty complex bass and drums.

And before my curiosity gets the better of me, what about 4th of July? BTW the version on the box set sounds really bad it’s not even funny. Worse than San Miguel & I Just Got My Pay. I love all three songs though.

For both of those, and lots of others from the era, keep an eye out for the next issue of ESQ which should be coming in the not too distant future.

Off the top of my head, Live Again was Dennis on piano, Carl on guitars, Daryl Dragon on bass, and Dennis Dragon on drums. Flutes were probably Kathy Dragon, and any other instrument you hear on there is a Moog.

For that matter, a lot of your questions are covered in various ESQ sessionographies over the years.  You'd do well to treat yourself to some back issues.

I really should get a subscription. You can buy previous issues online correct?

EDIT: Now that was a stupid question. Forget I ever said that.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: April 24, 2021, 09:39:39 AM
Final question from me today? Who played on (Wouldn’t It Be Nice To) Live Again? It sounds like Dennis on piano. I hear a moog, a Celeste (both simple), flutes (I think that’s Charles Lloyd), and some pretty complex bass and drums.

And before my curiosity gets the better of me, what about 4th of July? BTW the version on the box set sounds really bad it’s not even funny. Worse than San Miguel & I Just Got My Pay. I love all three songs though.


Hmmm... so I reckon there isn’t any information? Sad I haven’t really seen or heard of anything yet.
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