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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How Bruce Johnston devestated me musically. on: November 28, 2011, 08:55:34 AM
Tell you what. I was in this same boat accept it was derdrie that did it for me. I sat there the first time i heard sunflower mouth agape and wondered how it was that i'd never head it before.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things I Love to Say Dada on: November 17, 2011, 09:12:38 AM
Maybe i didn't read all these posts carefully but someone said it sounded like when brian was calling takes he was having fun.  The thought i have about the dada sessions is that they really show brian not caring as much. It seems to me that he's more apt to just say alright we've done a few takes lets keep it. This  really does seem like a man who just wants to be shot of the whole thing.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Other Pop Composers Who Have Written in Sections? on: November 16, 2011, 08:38:55 AM
I want to go a little deeper into some artists already mentioned. I'm just going to rant here for a minute but i promise it all relates
frank zappa is probably brian's closest  relative as far as sectional writing goes. I've become a pretty huge zappa fan and if you get bootlegs of his early stuff you realize he was doing this to the same degree as smile.  We're only in it for the money especially has this. There are tons and tons of edits of songs from that album and lumpy gravy with different sections placed differently. I  guess maybe thats what struck me first about zappa, how much like brian he was. It was easier for him because he didn't have people telling him what he could and couldn't do, and also he never took drugs.

Maybe the smashing pumpkins song you guys are all talking about is through the eyes of ruby. That one has two distinct parts in it.
miles davis's early fusion albums relied heavily on edits. Its a slightly different situation since most of those pieces were composed in sketch form and then soloed on top of. But its still the same concept isn't it?

Well thats all for now. Comments?
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What are your favorite moments from The SMiLE Sessions? on: November 09, 2011, 06:59:48 AM
-the album mix because it just shines.  Played that a hundred times by now probably
-surfs up 67
-the  "disney" vocal section of heroes part 2 that never got finished. Man, imagine that finished. Beautiful
- "i knew if i searched i'd find it" during worms sessions. I love how determined brian seems.
-"thats our baby" from the second child session.
-brians sarcasm on dada sessions. It proves in my mind that he didn't really care anymore  and remember he canceled sessions around it
-teter toter love. Its absurd but its the sort of thing you get stuck in your head.
There are more but i can't think of them now.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: November 03, 2011, 12:22:20 PM
I then had to carry it home on a bus and a train since i'm blind and can't drive...the packaging looks great in pictures but until you physically hold it in your hands you don't get the full effect.

Anyone?

I'm not totally blind but i'm blind enough that i  can't drive.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Surf's Up on: November 03, 2011, 12:12:57 PM
OK i posted this question in another part of the boards but i'm curious. Do you think that that key change at the end of the 67 surfs up was intentional or did brian suddenly think to himself oh crap i'm in the wrong key here lets fix it?
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Deluxe Reissue Box Set Fantasies on: November 03, 2011, 12:05:53 PM
1962-1967:
CD1 - mono & stereo mixes
CD2 - outtakes/odd singles & sessions

1968-date
CD1 - album & outtakes/odd singles
CD2 - sessions

Exactly. There is enough unreleased stuff out there that they could expand the albums. Think about this. We have all those unreleased things on the gv box set to start with . There you go. Use those tracks with their respective albums and add some of what isn't officially released.  My god, the love you reisue could have adult child as disc 2. Can we imagine having that mt. vernon and farway demo released? The mind boggles.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: November 03, 2011, 11:30:18 AM
Ok so on tuesday morning i walked into best buy and walked out with the box set. I then had to carry it home on a bus and a train since i'm blind and can't drive. That was an interesting experience. I'd heard the samples online and was so so ready to hear what  it all sounded like. I've been a fan of these guys since i was seven which was right around the time the gv box set came out. So i get home, put this on, and am blown away. Someone earlier on this board said that even after hearign brian's smile this one was a revelation and i totally get that. T/his mix is so pristine and it brings out things you've never heard on bootlegs.  The sessions are fascinating and even if you've heard the sot sessions this is more concise and it works better. Ok so some things i've noticed or just want to comment on .
-the packaging looks great in pictures but until you  physically hold it in your hands you don't get the full effect.
-i sort of expected this to be like purple chicks mix of the album and was pleasantly surprised when i heard how different it was. I'd been reading the boards for a week and so things trickled out but  samples and typed words do not an album make. This was so good. I've played this disc about five times now and love it more with each playing.
-the end of old master painter is great with the barnshine section added in
-the version of child here is great with those new vocals and all the sections so clear.
-surfs up sounds great because it takes elements from all previous versions and melds them in a unique way
-love vega-tables with all the sections edited this way
-love having holidays so clear now. Its cool to hear that piano(i think) underneath the marimba
-love that during fire you can hear that part right before the last sections that was only previously available with the sound effects on top. They did a good job of reducing those so you can just hear the music.
-surfs up 67 is as good as everyone say it is. Question though, do you think brian purposly played the second movement in the same key and changed at the end or do you think he realized midway through "oh dear i'm in the wrong key"

one other observation before i stop
The first version of wonderful on the sessions disc is the same one that is on the album only it seems that brian slowed it down for the album and then sang on  it. Incredible.
Sorry for my long post but had to get this off my chest somehow. 
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions) on: October 29, 2011, 09:18:09 AM
Yeah, we're gonna get an entire album of "How Can We Still Be Dancin'", no thanks.
Am i  the only person who happens to like that song. If they let brian work on things with them and mike doesn't take over the session it could be a good record. 
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