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76  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the "What are you listening to now?" thread on: December 22, 2011, 04:46:50 PM
AIR - Biological

Ive been a fan of AIR before i became a fan of the BB's. I used to read interviews where theyd say BW/BB's were a huge influence and it wasnt until i listened to the BB's that i realised how much of an influence they actually are on AIR.

Biological:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-9c-FIaWCw

The outro (from 3:59 onwards) is awesome!

77  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Heavy Metal Appreciation Thread on: December 21, 2011, 04:16:04 PM
i love Opeth. Damnation is one of my fav albums of all time (though its not 'metal', theyre essentially a metal band)

also love me some Electric Wizard

 Smokin
78  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: albums u spin on hallucinogens on: December 21, 2011, 04:14:34 PM
no-one seems to have mentioned anything P-Funk related

the music alone is enough to get you high!

Geroge Clinton/Bootsy Collins & Brian Wilson - that wouldve been an interesting collaboration in the 70s  Cool Guy
79  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Kool Keith vs. Dr.Octogon!! on: December 21, 2011, 04:12:59 PM
cant believe theres a Kool Keith thread in a BB's forum - i never wouldve thought!

That being said, i never really got into the Dr Octagon albums. they just didnt do much for me.

I loved Dr Dooom (1&2) and Black Elvis, but i still really enjoy Spankmaster.
Also Lost Masters 1-3 and The Personal Album are worth mentioning aswell
80  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: December 15, 2011, 04:53:15 PM
Please guys be nice.... this artist inspired Straight Outta Compton

Inspired??... did you know that she actually plays on it?

To be fair, she DID play on Dr. Dre's "The Next Episode."  In a way.

not sure if its been mentioned yet but Dr. Dre started his career in music as a member of the World Class Wreckin' Crew

strange coincidence?

81  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys FAQ book on: December 15, 2011, 04:09:23 PM
That's great.  Jon, it's really a fun book, I'm pretty new to being "obsessed" with the Beach Boys and it was a great primer!

im the same. its a great book for someone just getting into the BB's - very well put together (much like the Black Sabbath FAQ - another great read)

now onto 'Catch A Wave' and 'Heroes & Villains'
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Henry Rollins: The Beach Boys' SMiLE: Even Better than Advertised on: December 15, 2011, 02:29:50 PM
Henry Rollins has always said that he is a big BB fan. Thought you all would like to read what he has to say about SMiLE in the LA Weekly:

http://blogs.laweekly.com/westcoastsound/2011/12/henry_rollins_the_column_the_b.php

At this moment, I am sitting in front of my stereo as the Beach Boys' SMiLE album wraps up with "Good Vibrations." Sonically, the album is one of the best things you are likely to hear in all of your life. There are moments on SMiLE that are so astonishingly good you might find yourself just staring at your speakers in unguarded wonder, as I have.

SMiLE is perhaps the Beach Boys' most legendary album. It was recorded in 1966 and 1967 but only saw a formal release in 2011. That's a long time to wait for what was said to be Brian Wilson's masterpiece.

The reasons the band did not release SMiLE in 1967 are probably myriad and perhaps not made any clearer with the passing of more than four decades. Being one of those people who have heard hours of outtakes of the songs, I have my theories as to why the album didn't come out, one of which I will come back to shortly.

Several of the songs on SMiLE have been released over the years: "Heroes and Villains," "Surf's Up" and, of course, "Good Vibrations." The entire album -- the concept, as it were -- was left for the bootleggers to assemble.

And did they ever. The Beach Boys are one seriously bootlegged band, almost on the level of the Beatles and Dylan. As proof, I direct you to the site surfermoon.com/boots.shtml, which has a fairly exhaustive list. One label in particular, Sea of Tunes, seemed to have total access to the Beach Boys tapes. Several years ago Beach Boys box sets on Sea of Tunes were dropping every few hours, it seemed.
Some of them clearly were assembled by the insanely obsessive. There is a multidisc set that covers the song "Good Vibrations" only! I had a feeling that the person or persons liberating the source tapes must have been working feverishly on the down-low, and that these sets were not going to be around for long. I reckoned I needed to get all of them. For this reason I traveled to record stores and underground outlets all over New York City, Singapore, Japan and Germany. As to the limited availability of the sets, I was right. Soon, the Sea of Tunes boxes were gone. Months later, I saw color-copy-covered CDR versions in some of my normal haunts, but those beautiful box sets were no more.

SMiLE was supposed to be the follow-up to the band's ridiculously good Pet Sounds album, released in 1966. Perhaps their biggest competition for youthful genius dominating the world at that time would have been the Beatles, who were in their Revolver-Sgt. Pepper's-Magical Mystery Tour phase, and to a minor degree the Rolling Stones, who were still in their pre-Their Satanic Majesties Request era.

Both the Beach Boys and the Beatles were aware of the other, and both were incredibly driven. The major difference was hands on deck; the Beatles had two Godzilla songwriters in Lennon and McCartney and a great one in Harrison. The Beach Boys had Brian Wilson. Though he collaborated with the extremely talented Van Dyke Parks, and other band members made contributions, Wilson carried the weight. Therein lies a biography that is at times fascinating and sad, and often imbued with a lot of pain.

Brian Wilson, a true, not-up-for-debate musical genius, was under immense pressure from Capitol, his bandmates and his own extremely high standards. The weight took its toll on Brian, whose adolescence is the stuff of nightmares, thanks to a violent father, who made Brian the target of his rage. He was the band's manager until 1964, when, at around age 22, Brian fired him.

And now my theory as to what happened to SMiLE. When you listen to these songs, at once you hear the breathtaking harmonies of the band, arrangements on the complexity level of a classical master composer, and lyrics that are heartfelt and sometimes whimsical but all completely unguarded. SMiLE, to me, is the work of a man trying desperately to hold on to himself as he struggles to navigate his great and fragile talent through a psychotic breakdown and corporate expectations. These songs are those of a man on a small boat, thousands of miles from any shoreline, sure of his navigational abilities but surrounded by the vast and turbulent ocean of his talent.
I think that at some point, he had so many parts that ultimately he didn't know what he had anymore and hit the ejector button. (Listen to "Good Vibrations" on headphones and trip on how many different sessions are seamlessly glued together.)
What we don't know and perhaps never will is if we are hearing the full version of the album exactly as Brian Wilson has envisioned it. Be that as it may, to hear all these songs in final mix, in sequence -- WOW. I have seen Brian Wilson play a couple of times. He still has it, in large quantities.

Even if you are not a Beach Boys fan, please, listen to SMiLE, all the way through, at least once. Totally worth the trip. What would have happened to the Beach Boys and the music world had SMiLE been released in 1967 or 1968 is one of those conceptual discussions that will have to wait until we are all stuck on the tour bus in the middle of one of those really long hauls. For now, a 40-plus-year-old labor of greatness has finally been brought to light. Prepare to SMiLE.
83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson Movie News on: November 09, 2011, 01:51:06 PM
W2 Media has made a seven-figure advance for international sales on The Drummer, a biopic about the Beach Boys drummer Dennis Wilson that stars Aaron Eckhart.

The project, which is being shopped to buyers at AFM, looks at the final six years of Wilson’s life, which ended when he drowned in Marina del Rey in 1983. Randall Miller is directing from a screenplay by Miller and Jody Savin, the pair behind Bottle Shock. They are producing with Brad Rosenberger under the group’s Unclaimed Freight banner.

James William Guercio of Caribou Records and Don Mandrik of Georgia Production Finance are executive producing; Wilson’s children Carl and Jennifer are on board as co-producers. Shooting is set to start after Eckhart finishes filming Lionsgate’s I Frankenstein, and the filmmakers expect to announce the rest of the cast soon.
84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson Movie News on: November 09, 2011, 01:48:28 PM
youd think the producers would use the 'Real Beach Boy' book as some sort of reference point

but i just dont get it - how can you make a movie about the life of DW without consulting the author of the definitive book about his life and close friend?

Jon, would you ever offer your services as some sort of consultant on the movie, or is it a case of "if they dont ask, im not offering"



85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian says Beach Boys reunion album sounds \ on: November 08, 2011, 04:31:58 PM
Howie, thanks. I don't know how or why the Foskett hate got started here,  but it's a new and unappealing thing.


I have been reading Rubin's name come up for years now on this board and it mystifies me every time. There are producers like Nigel Godrich who are capable of producing dry, minimalist recordings like those of Rubin but also are capable of allowing artists to be themselves without asserting too much of their own "stamp" on the music. Even Jeff Lynne, who was also mentioned upthread and who leaves his indelible stamp on the records he produces, would be a better choice than Rubin. Incidentally, I love Lynne's production style but I am not sure how well it would fit The Beach Boys. Still, it would be a smarter and more aesthetically fitting choice than Mr. Rick f'n Rubin. (I am a fan of "Let it Shine," though.)

The best reason that I can think of for Rubin to ever be involved with Brian Wilson is so that he can share his love of vegetarian/vegan lethargy. Maybe Brian would steal enough of Rubin's burritos during the sessions that he would convert to a healthier lifestyle.

Nigel Godrich would be a great choice

he did a wonderful job producing a couple of AIR albums - and their Beach Boys influence is all over their records
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson Movie News on: November 08, 2011, 04:26:31 PM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/11/08/aaron-eckhart-rum-diary-frankenstein_n_1082057.html

new interview with Aaron Eckhart where he discusses a little about 'The Drummer'

Brigham Young? Are you a fan of Mitt Romney?

I don't know. I'm studying for two movies right now -- "I, Frankenstein" and "The Drummer," which is about Dennis Wilson of The Beach Boys -- so I am sort of underwater right now. I am trying to figure out how to play the drums and piano, and to be a monster.

Tell me more about studying to be a Beach Boy.

I don't know how many people know this, but Dennis Wilson, the drummer for The Beach Boys, was at the end of his life and he died young after having finished his second solo album. His first solo album came out this soulful, dark personal piece of music that was highly acclaimed by the critics of the time.

After Brian Wilson started going into his malaise, Dennis had to take over song-writing duties and came to realize he was a good songwriter. The movie is about his journey and it is financed by the guy who produced his album, so we have all of Dennis' unreleased music. It's a big challenge and I am sort of freaking out, because it is going to be a lot of work, including learning to play the piano and the drums and sing.

Is someone going to have to kick you in the balls again?

No, thank the Lord, because Dennis' range is down there.

87  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things Vegatables on: November 02, 2011, 02:11:50 PM
this is my first time hearing the mix of this track

if one of todays "super producers" like Timbaland came out with something like this, he'd be heralded as cutting edge, or leading the way.

BW was doing this back in 67 - AMAZING
88  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: This place... on: October 26, 2011, 03:41:41 PM
If it wasn't for this place i wouldn't know half of the stuff that i do about Brian and the boys. It's honestly a treat to learn from you people.

was going to write the same thing

ive been a long time reader of this board but have only just joined up

ive literally spend days going through topics of interest and its amazing all the information thats here to learn - great stuff

89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis Wilson Sailing To Hawaii on: October 26, 2011, 03:37:56 PM
The new edition, which will be published next year

Music to my ears! Been wanting to read your book for almost a decade!!!


ditto

my brother has a copy of 'The Real Beach Boy' but ive been holding off on reading it cause i wanted to wait for the updated version

But in the meantime im loving 'FAQ' - its a great read

(my first post - WOO HOO!!)
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