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251  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Best on: May 12, 2012, 09:07:57 PM
I can buy the idea that Mike's commercial sense helped sell Brian's muse to the world, but as a songwriter on his own, he had nothing. If Big Sur is your masterpiece, clearly you're no Irving Berlin. I prefer Sumahama personally, but the pleasure is all guilty. As for Let The Wind Blow, surely the middle section - where at least 80% of its greatness lies - is Brian's. I can certainly believe Anna Lee, The Healer is his.
252  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Bruce, do yourself and all of us a favor and don't make political statements. on: May 12, 2012, 01:13:45 AM
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Regardless of politics, I think Bruce should just say "f*ck"  more often.

"I write the songs that make the whole word f*ck", type of thing?
253  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Bruce, do yourself and all of us a favor and don't make political statements. on: May 11, 2012, 10:57:28 PM
Liked this from the RS comments thread:

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A Republican blasting a Liberal. As a Socialist, you cannot imagine the magnitude of the f**k I do not give.
254  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Finalized (?) track sequence for TWGMTR (The Album) on: May 07, 2012, 10:34:49 PM
Wouldn't Daybreak Over The Ocean suggest they were on the east coast? I find this profoundly disturbing.
255  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hey Little Hey Little Hey Little Lack Of Judgement on: May 07, 2012, 10:27:18 PM
Would it have been better if he'd sung: "Always get it up for the touch of the younger kind"? Because a year after the MIU Album, that sh*t got to number one.
256  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: May 07, 2012, 06:35:54 AM
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That is the most important chart.

And #93 is the most important position on it.
257  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Albums with a Pet Sounds vibe? on: March 09, 2012, 09:16:16 PM
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Try High Llamas albums Gideon Gaye or Hawaii

These are the High Llamas albums that most frequently get recommended, but for my money Sean O'Hagan's masterpiece (and his Pet Sounds-iest album besides) was the later Beet Maize and Corn. O'Hagan lost most of his fans with a series of albums after Hawaii which moved into Stereolab-style lounge-electronica territory, a style of music which is not my cup of tea in any case, and which I don't think he did particularly well even on its own terms (less well than Stereolab, with whom he collaborated). But then he came to his senses and recorded an album of gorgeous chamber pop very much in the Brian Wilson mould with perhaps a touch of Burt Bacharach. IMHO it knocks the more highly fancied Gideon Gaye and Hawaii out of the park, but because of what preceded it it's not as well known. The subsequent Can Cladders is also very good - last year's (year before's?) Talahomi Way less so, but still not bad.

And I second all the endorsements earlier in the thread for Andy Partridge/XTC/Dukes of Stratosphear.
258  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIU .. wow underrated album on: February 21, 2012, 03:12:23 AM
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I think this record could have used some of the stuff that was left off, such as "Our Team" or maybe "Mike Come Back to L.A." (which I haven't heard of course but it sounds like it could be a fun tune).

Leaving off Our Team and How's About a Little Bit of Your Sweet Lovin' can only have been acts of sabotage.
259  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: MIU .. wow underrated album on: February 19, 2012, 09:20:50 PM
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Its obvious brians voice sounds Great for the period.

This much is true at least. If only he'd sounded that good on Love You. The material, unfortunately, is garbage. The only saving graces are Pitter Patter and My Diane, and I'll grant She's Got Rhythm and the two covers a pass when I'm in a tolerant mood.

I remember reading once that there was a bootleg circulating which contained superior earlier mixes from before Ron Altbach (I assume) got to work with his airbrush. Does anyone know what I'm referring to, or how I can get hold of it?
260  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Record sales on: February 12, 2012, 09:19:07 AM
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AC/DC are from Australia....Like Crowded House, Russel Crowe and Phar lap............ Wink

No, they are from Australia like The Bee Gees, Olivia Newton John and Joe Bugner.
261  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson tells British Airways he's re-recorded Sweet Insanity... on: February 01, 2012, 08:35:43 AM
I like Sweet Insanity. The sequence of songs Do You Have Any Regrets, Thank You (yeah, I know, the lyrics ...), Hotter, Spirit of Rock & Roll, Rainbow Eyes and Love Ya kicks ass (granting of course that much of the remainder is beyond horrible). Back me up, somebody.
262  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What fans thought of BW 89 back in 89 on: December 16, 2011, 01:37:35 AM
The publicity that attended the release of the album was what got me into the Beach Boys. I was 16 at the time, and bought in short order Pet Sounds, BW88 and the six-album Capitol Years boxed set that was issued here in Australia at around the same time (the earlier Japanese issue featured The Brian Wilson Productions as a seventh album). I thought BW88 quite spectacular in parts, and I still retain an unfashionably favourable view of it. There's So Many in particular I have always found jaw-droppingly beautiful, and I've been consistently surprised to discover that no one else seems to think so. I think it equally as good as Melt Away, the one song here that gets its due. Rio Grande is another masterpiece, and again I've never understood why people don't get more excited about it. Of the rest, Walkin' the Line and Baby Let Your Hair Grow Long are agreeable; Litte Children and Night Time are disasters; Love and Mercy's potential is suffocated by sterile production and some wince-inducing lyrics; One For The Boys doesn't need to exist in a world that has Our Prayer in it; and Let it Shine and Meet Me in My Dreams Tonight are probably okay in their way, but they're not really Brian Wilson. I'd be quite a bit happier with the album if one of the duds had been dropped in favour of Being With The One You Love.
263  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Ram as a tribute to Brian Wilson on: December 07, 2011, 11:09:01 PM
Can't add anything factual, but I remember listening to the album for the first time long after I became a BW fanatic, and being really struck by how much the ambience of the album reminded me of Smiley Smile and Wild Honey.
264  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys vs Beatles in the same years on: December 07, 2011, 06:22:28 PM
Brian Wilson > John Lennon.
Brian Wilson > Paul McCartney.
Brian Wilson > George Martin.

But Beatles albums > Beach Boys albums.
265  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Brian Wilson In the Key of Disney makes Pitchfork's Worst Album Covers of 2011 on: December 05, 2011, 08:58:35 AM
Pitchfork's annual Worst Album Covers is, as always, good for a laugh. However, I find the inclusion of BWITKOD slightly excessive given the strength of the competition (check out the entry from "No Emotion"), although from what I've seen lately I gather there are others here who might think differently.

http://pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/8725-the-worst-album-covers-of-2011/
266  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How Bruce Johnston devestated me musically. on: November 28, 2011, 08:42:38 PM
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If I thought more than a tiny fraction of the posters on this board agreed with the above two posts, I would never come here again.

Not a fan of Bruce. Don't like Deirdre, much. Don't like Tears in the Morning, at all (apart from the piano bit at the end). Hate Disney Girls. Hate Endless Harmony, She Believes in Love Again and anything post-1985, without even having to hear any of it.

But I love The Nearest Faraway Place.
267  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: November 13, 2011, 03:42:01 AM
Here's an insignificant question that doesn't deserve its own thread. Am I correct in thinking that Beach Boys albums from 1963 and 1964 (Surfin' USA, Surfer Girl, Little Deuce Coupe, Shut Down Vol 2, All Summer Long, Concert, Christmas Album) have never been reissued in mono? Or if they were, not on vinyl?

Also, while thinking this through I've been reminded of something. Around about 1990 or so, I bought a vinyl reissue of Shut Down Volume 2 on a very obscure label which had a name like "K2" or something, with which I've long since parted company. Does anyone know what I'm talking about?
268  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Box Set delays in Australia? on: November 11, 2011, 10:03:00 PM
I rang 78 Records in Perth on Thursday and the guy told me the record company had told him (after much badgering on his part) that the box sets had *finally* arrived in Australia that day, and were being sent out forthwith. Mine will apparently be in store on Monday or Tuesday.

100 copies for the entire country? Jesus.
269  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: W i l d H o n e y on: November 10, 2011, 07:15:39 PM
There's a Top 30 Beach Boys' songs thread in action at the moment, and I'm making the effort to keep score on an aggregated best-of list. At the moment the only song from Wild Honey is Darlin', which is hanging on at #28. My own favourite, Let The Wind Blow, is currently just outside the Top 30. Perhaps this thread's Wild Honey enthusiasts might like to drop by and give the album some love.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,9812.50.html
270  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 30 Beach Boys' songs on: November 09, 2011, 07:50:49 PM
An updated aggregate top 30. God Only Knows looks unassailable at number one.

1. God Only Knows (300/13)
2. Don't Worry Baby (266/13)
3. Wouldn't It Be Nice (242/11)
4. Surf's Up (240/13)
5. Til I Die (205/11)
6. Please Let Me Wonder (173/9)
7. All I Wanna Do (165/11)
8. Surfer Girl (165/9)
9. Warmth of the Sun (164/9)
10. This Whole World (163/9)
11. Good Vibrations (159/9)
12. She Knows Me Too Well (153/9)
13. Time To Get Alone (143/8)
14. Wonderful (139/7)
15. Forever (138/9)
16. Heroes and Villains (130/8)
17. Kiss Me Baby (128/9)
18. Break Away (122/8)
19. Cabinessence (120/8)
20. Caroline No (120/7)
21. I Get Around (120/6)
22. I Just Wasn't Made for These Times (111/7)
23. In My Room (105/5)
24. Don't Talk (101/5)
25. Do It Again (99/7)
26. Let Him Run Wild (98/7)
27. Sloop John B (97/5)
28. The Night Was So Young (89/5)
29. California Girls (80/7)
30. Darlin' (74/5)

271  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 30 Beach Boys' songs on: November 08, 2011, 11:21:34 PM
Interesting that there are only three pre-Pet Sounds songs which aren't ballads - and none are placed higher than 19. I think Brianophiles are a bit too shy about showing some love for Surfin' USA, Fun Fun Fun, etc. I mean, I love Break Away, but is it really better than I Get Around?
272  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 30 Beach Boys' songs on: November 08, 2011, 11:15:47 PM
What the hell - I'll do it. So far we've got 13 (serious) lists. Where they've been listed in order, I've allocated 30 points for a first place down to 1 point for a 30th place. Where there's no order, I've given everything 15. If there's a tie, I've favoured songs that have been included in more lists, where possible. The numbers in parentheses are the total points followed by the number of lists they're included in. I'll do another update later if I get enough material to work with.

1. God Only Knows (233/10)
2. Don't Worry Baby (210/10)
3. Wouldn't It Be Nice (202/9)
4. Surf's Up (183/10)
5. Til I Die (161/8)
6. Warmth of the Sun (149/8)
=7. Please Let Me Wonder (133/7)
=7. This Whole World (133/7)
9. Surfer Girl (130/7)
10. Good Vibrations (125/7)
11. Time to Get Alone (118/7)
12. Forever (113/8)
13. Break Away (107/7)
14. Cabinessence (105/7)
15. Caroline No (105/6)
16. In My Room (105/5)
17. Kiss Me Baby (100/7)
18. All I Wanna Do (98/8)
19. Let Him Run Wild (98/7)
=20. I Get Around (96/5)
=20. Wonderful (96/5)
22. She Knows Me Too Well (95/6)
23. Heroes and Villains (92/6)
24. Sloop John B (82/4)
25. I Just Wasn't Made for These Times (77/5)
26. Do It Again (69/5)
27. The Night Was So Young (67/4)
28. Cool Cool Water (59/3)
29. California Girls (53/5)
30. Let The Wind Blow (53/4)
273  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 30 Beach Boys' songs on: November 08, 2011, 10:11:02 PM
Doubt I can top Syd Barrett's list on the previous page, but here goes. I feel a bit guilty that in paring it back to 30 the stuff I chopped tended to be "quirky" - With Me Tonight, Whistle In, Solar System, I'm Beggin' You Please. So is anyone going to take the effort to tally up everyone's results for a grand total?

1. 'Til I Die
2. This Whole World
3. Cool Cool Water
4. I Get Around
5. Can't Wait Too Long
6. The Warmth of the Sun
7. Let The Wind Blow
8. Wouldn't It Be Nice
9. God Only Knows
10. In My Room
11. Don't Worry Baby
12. Please Let Me Wonder
13. Good Vibrations
14. Celebrate The News
15. Fun Fun Fun
16. Dance Dance Dance
17. All Summer Long
18. Kiss Me Baby
19. California Girls
20. Caroline No
21. Cabinessence
22. Be With Me
23. Catch a Wave
24. Our Prayer
25. Little Bird
26. Do It Again
27. Surfer Girl
28. Friends
29. I Just Wasn't Made for These Times
30. Mrs O'Leary's Cow
274  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Different LP slicks used in trade magazines on: October 22, 2011, 10:42:33 PM
I would suggest they tweaked the covers to make them appear more striking in the context of a small picture in a large ad. Most of those covers had a lot of small writing on them and wouldn't have come across well when shrunk down to the size in which they appeared in the ads. I am quite sure they were never commercially available in this way.
275  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: October 21, 2011, 07:36:07 AM
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"Seppos"??

"Seppo" = "Septic tank" = "Yank". Rhyming slang, you see.
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