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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 07, 2021, 10:57:49 AM
This isn't the actual Billboard Top 200 albums chart, but something based (I assume) on sales rather than airplay and streams -- no doubt making it more favourable to a release like FF. Still cool though.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 06, 2021, 09:20:20 AM
Or it could be a clumsily expressed reference to the line "uninspired, drenched and tired".
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 04, 2021, 12:07:43 PM
Wow - #19 on the UK charts. Still waiting on Billboard.

https://www.officialcharts.com/charts/albums-chart/
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 31, 2021, 12:30:55 PM
86 on Metacritic from seven reviews - five 80s and two 90s.

https://www.metacritic.com/music/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971/the-beach-boys

Included is a four-star review from Rolling Stone, which I'm afraid isn't nearly as sharp as the great review they ran for Wake The World/I Can Hear Music.

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-album-reviews/feel-flows-the-sunflower-surfs-up-sessions-1969-1971-goes-deep-on-two-beach-boys-classics-1218719/
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 27, 2021, 11:32:27 AM
Who is that on 'baby baby'?

Why would they ruin such a good song with awful signing
Daryl Dragon, perchance? He has a co-writer credit, if the Wikipedia details are to be believed, and the song sounds very much to me like it was made up on the spot.

Speaking of writing credits, Awake is credited to Brian and David Sandler. Whatever became of Floyd Tucker?
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 10:56:15 PM
I think my favourite thing here is Old Movie. It was always obvious that setting an orchestra loose on Make It Good was a mistake, but I now feel it was no less so on Cuddle Up.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 07:02:23 AM
It's now live on Spotify here in Australia.
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 25, 2021, 08:23:45 PM
Quote
The Beach Boys Feel Flows Chapter 2: White Hot Glistening

So we're back to "white hot" now?
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 20, 2021, 10:50:22 AM
Imo San Miguel is one of the unreleased greats. Superb energy, rocking guitar solo, great arrangment and sublime harmonies. How the hell didn't this make the cut on Sunflower or Surf's Up Huh

Jack Rieley's perspective on the track selection for Surf's Up, including the exclusion of San Miguel, is related in the posts from "Beach Head" on this page:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=9651.0

Rieley at first appears to take "credit" for the decision on the grounds that it was "just a hook, not a song" -- whatever the hell that means -- before claiming the decision was "made by Dennis Wilson, with Brian Wilson and Carl Wilson and I supporting him". I personally find it a bit hard to believe that Dennis would have preferred having nothing at all on Surf's Up to San Miguel, but who knows.
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FEEL FLOWS - Chapter One. . . on: August 19, 2021, 08:19:19 AM
I would like to a) concur with the above comments about the video, and b) draw everyone's attention to the fact that two killer new tracks from the boxed set have just dropped on Spotify, which I've just commented on in the main thread:

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,26791.msg674266.html#msg674266
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 19, 2021, 08:16:42 AM
As usual, Friday brings a few new tasters from the boxed set, which you can access now on Spotify if you're in New Zealand/east coast of Australia, or linked there through a VPN. Otherwise they will be there when the clock strikes midnight in your time zone. (ETA: Actually, it may just be available everywhere - I'm able to get it without the VPN in my pre-midnight time zone right now).

One of these is the most exciting so far IMO, namely the remix of San Miguel we heard a glimpse of in that video with Mark Linnell (I think it was) a year or so ago. It's awesome -- miles more powerful than the previously released mix. Among other things, there is a bit of harmony vocal that wasn't on the previous version in the bit between the last chorus and the fadeout section.

The other is Feel Flows - Track & Backing Vocals, which is also great. It gives us a chance to hear the backing vocals unobscured by either the lead vocal or the Leslie effect (or whatever it was) that was applied on the released version. For the first time, you can really hear what's being sung on the chorus ("white puff glistening shadowy glow"), especially when it continues playing after the instrumental track fades out. Also, the instrumental section has just the saxophone with no flute.
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 19, 2021, 12:18:38 AM
I feel pretty sure that it's Dennis, and can hear a continuity between it and his later bass vocals (the end of River Song and Shortenin' Bread being the two that spring to mind), allowing for his progressing raspiness.
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 12, 2021, 09:36:02 AM
I think I'll just keep it on repeat all day.
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 12, 2021, 09:34:07 AM
'Til I Die - A Cappella is on Spotify either now or later today, depending on your time zone.
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 05, 2021, 10:04:58 AM
Another track up on Spotify: Slip On Through - Alternate 1969 Mix With Session Intro. Nothing too amazing - basically the Sunflower version with fewer overdubs and a false start take at the beginning.
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 05, 2021, 08:56:44 AM
Thanks, SM. One of those "domino" harmony vocals (Carl's or Bruce's?) could have shattered a window.
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 05, 2021, 07:01:23 AM
So apparently no one wants to talk about the other track that just got released. I have a few questions though about Surf's Up - A Cappella.

Was the entire vocal track for the first movement recorded in 1971? Who, if anyone, sings on it apart from Carl? And where exactly did "bygone, bygone" come from? Does it appear on anything that was recorded in 1966/67? Could it possibly have been an idea someone came up with in 1971, and if so who?
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 03, 2021, 06:14:11 AM
Interestingly, this alternate ending is one of the only BB songs I can think of that has a true ending and doesn't fade out.

I can think of loads. The discussion got me thinking about fadeouts though, and some googling turned up the following article which happens to mention Caroline No.

https://slate.com/culture/2014/09/the-fade-out-in-pop-music-why-dont-modern-pop-songs-end-by-slowly-reducing-in-volume.html
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 31, 2021, 01:12:27 PM
Thanks to Joshilyn and SM for their insights. Bruce, eh? Explains why it comes off that little bit too gooey.
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2021, 09:58:44 AM
The Surf's Up a cappella would seem to be straightforwardly the vocal track from the 1971 version. This Whole World has a different vocal take for both Carl and Brian, though up to the ending the only obvious difference is that Carl sings "full of different people" rather than "lots of different people" and "ooh, here comes another day" rather than "now hear comes another day". At the very end though, rather than the a cappella tag, there's a quite different vocal arrangement designed to bring the song to a climax along with the end of the instrumental track. It's obviously great to hear, and the whole track is beautifully mixed, but the changes that were made on the released version were for the better.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2021, 09:38:56 AM
The two tracks are "This Whole World - Alternate Ending" and "Surf's Up - A Cappella". They are now available on Spotify here in Australia, it being after midnight here and us being quite near the International Date Line. The rest of the world should get them as their clocks tick over.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Demos posted to Brian Wilson's website on: July 21, 2021, 06:39:37 AM
I particularly enjoyed Sunshine. Clearly an album of Imagination demos would have been miles better than what was actually released.

That isn't a demo, it's an early mix of the track that's actually on the album.

Thanks - I guess I mean an album of rough mixes then, without having been buffed and polished into smooth and easy nothingness.
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Demos posted to Brian Wilson's website on: July 21, 2021, 02:17:12 AM
I particularly enjoyed Sunshine. Clearly an album of Imagination demos would have been miles better than what was actually released.
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 20, 2021, 02:12:33 AM
Four star review by Andrew Male in the latest Mojo. Most interesting bit for me: "Won't You Tell Me is an engulfing romantic melodrama akin to Please Let Me Wonder ... it appears here in two versions: as a lavish, chiming Brian and Carl duet; and as a solo Brian demo, with control room interjections from his father that only enhance the pathos". He also more keen on the alternative lyrics to Til I Die than Peter Ames Carlin.
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys re-unite for “Add Some Music to Your Day” re-recording. on: March 04, 2021, 08:47:57 PM
Wasn't expecting to read about this in AMP Capital Market Update. Nonetheless:

https://www.ampcapital.com/au/en/insights-hub/articles/2021/march/market-update-050321
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