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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if The Beach Boys Love You was scrapped? on: February 07, 2016, 02:00:08 PM
If Love You were scrapped, Warners may well have said,"It's over" and sued the sh*t out of the band for non-delivery.

This may have allowed early exit to CBS and would have thankfully prevented the existence of M.I.U.

The financial hit would have driven the band into full nostalgia set list gigs in Las Vegas & international stadium spectaculars featuring the Harlem Globe Trotters & Evil Kenivel.

A sole & final CBS album would have been named after it's one original song "Goin' South",
the rest of the tracks reworkings of past hits, including Surfin', Hawaii & Kiss Me Baby.

Brian would not have recovered from the blow and remained in his child/man state.
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 on: February 04, 2016, 08:50:50 PM
Pleasure!

Yeah, it is the sun in the background looking like a clown - sorta looks like an angry bee to me.

Make sure you check out Malc's thread and download the PDF's of his comprehensive discussions of the band's original Album's cover art (content from his former website)
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, Bonus track on: February 04, 2016, 08:03:26 PM
Finally, here is the very groovey colour code music chart for Good Vibrations (for those who haven't seen it before) by John Pound.  Amazing!



         
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: February 04, 2016, 06:31:43 PM
We've been through all this before but other mysteries remain.  How come Bruce didn't appear on most of the album? Choice or was he asked not to attend? Why did Brian insist on recording new versions of wonderful and wind chimes and vegetables when he had great ones in the can?  Did the guys challenge him on that? I mean mike doesn't strike me as a guy who loves hanging out in the studio. He's like John Lennon-just get in and get it done! So did he not say "Brian I am not doing my vocals again when you have a basically finished version of this song in the vault!
Great questions, Ian.  Your later questions remind me of a brief section in the Byron Preiss book that says, "For the Beach Boys there was a sense of departure from the intense period of recording that had begun with Pet Sounds and dissipated in the final days of Smile.  The group and the family were back together again.  Brian's circle of friends from the Smile days had moved on. "Heroes and Villians" was a bona-fide hit, and Capitol wanted it on a new album along with "Good Vibrations".

No great insights from me as usual, but I imagine the "group/family" approach combined with hanging out at Brian's house would have removed/lessened any resistance to redoing things - a more on their terms kind of thing.
130  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 on: February 04, 2016, 03:29:04 PM
The 1970s are over. Embarrassed
Never say never - they remain with us always, imprinted on the Key Parties of our collective consciousness.
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: February 04, 2016, 02:58:39 PM
Smiley Alan, are you being facetious...or are you genuinely getting a good laugh out of this scene? (above) Nervous thrills will make you throw up! LOL LOL I hope it is the latter...I like you! Smiley Smiley
 Smiley Are we all ready for "THE SUPER BOWL" I AM... and it's only Thursday! Smiley Smiley Segment: #3 of "Wha--Ooh" next Monday! Smile  Smiley Smiley
Rocky, facetious, Me? NEVER!  I thought your answer was a cool response to mtaber's baiting Rock!

BTW, do you know who "owns" the tapes of you doin' California Feelin' - I've only been privy to crappy bootleg copies, it would be good to hear a clean copy.
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79, last gasp on: February 04, 2016, 02:49:21 PM
Thanks for the kind words! Made my day(s)!

Here is the final batch of pics from the Byron Preiss book from '79 - I hope those here (or yet to arrive) who don't have a copy get a kick out of viewing these poor reproductions and are encouraged to seek out a copy - get in line tho'; while doing this, the spine on my copy decided to split, man - ebay, here we come. (And read the chapter on Smile, it's pretty cool)



All This Is That by Gabriel Csakany
"Two ways and I" - a soothing scene of duality, featuring a contemplative Mike and Carl


Cabinessence  by Wayne McLoughlin
"Have you seen the Grand Coulee, working on the railroad?"  You won't here, instead here are a whole load of Chinese guys working on a dam or something.
(btw, the original pic is pretty dark, I couldn't get a decent shot, sorry)



Darlin' by John Collier
A very painterly piece, lovely palette showing lots of technique - beautiful.


Don't Worry Baby by Ralph Reese
Ralph also provided When I grow up. Perhaps the WIGU pic was the what happened after the DWB pic.


Help Me Rhonda by Alex Jay
Oh, those girls!


In My Room by Christof Blumrich.
This piece reminds me of Terry Melcher's comment in the Tom Nolan RS article about people outside of LA relating to the message of the BBs. (I know he was talking about blokes in Soho bleaching their hair, but I like the notion)


Little Deuce Coupe by Mac Evans - The Workshop
Light, tight, bright depiction of our lads smack in the middle of their own Surf'n'Car So.Cal myths. Fun stuff.


Long Promised Road by Steve Hofheimer
Love this one - I have seen a better scan kicking around out there.  I think Steve did a great job of capturing the whimsical cosmic imagery of JR's verse lyrics balanced against the positive defiance and uplifting energy of the chorus lyrics and guitar solo respectively.


Surfin' by Arnie Sawyer, original design by Michael Pilla
A lovely recreation of one of the shots from the back cover of Surfin' Safari (featuring Dave!).  Perhaps the images of Brian playing piano in the sand juxtaposed against the Surfer mastering the break represents Brian's growth as a composer.


Sail on Sailor by Howard Chaykin
A great image, reminds me a little of the Marvel comics style (eg Silver Surfer, Jack Kirby stuff) back in the day.


Surf's Up by Kenneth Smith, with close-ups from the Oppenheim footage of Brian evoking his muse.
Cosmic!


Wind Chimes by Michael Skaret - The Workshop
Tranquil...

That's it - no more  Wink
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: February 04, 2016, 01:23:42 PM
Famous quotes you've probably never heard before:

"Rocky IS American Spring! He is the band.  We're his fucking messengers.  We're nothing.  He's everything."
                                                                                     -Diane Rovell

"The first time we heard California Feeling on the radio, I was so excited I ran down the street SCREAMING!  Rocky threw up!"
                                                                                                                       -Marilyn Rovell
Smiley This is the first time I have ever heard these quotes! Maybe I was apart of American Spring... for about a minute and a half! Brian did lay down a Piano track, of "It's Like Heaven" at Brother Records and Marilyn sand the lead on it beautifully...(the first verse and the bridge)... (Br) "for so long, so long, I've held onto this feeling... and if all my dreams come true... I'll be with you tonight... and to kiss you tonight.  Diane whispered the second verse... "don't take this thrill away from me... you know our love was meant to be... the way that it should really be...(then Diane wanted to change "really" to "truly" (you guys do the math on this) Then I asked Brian to sing the Chorus's with me... because I was having trouble hitting the high note on ... it's like "HEAVEN" ("Heaven" being the highest note in the song). Then there was also a "TAG" that Brian added on the spot... (that he wanted me to sing) "What's the matter with "a" you babe... Don't you know I'll see ya through babe... What's the matter with "a" you babe... What's the matter with "a" you-oo-oo-oo?" The quote by Marilyn... (I think) was when she and I played a cassette of Calif Feelin'... for the first time in her car, on the way to Michelle Phillips Wedding (of the Mamma's and the Pappa's...and Marilyn's very good friend). It was the first time we had heard "California Feelin'" completely mixed down... and on her car stereo (radio) and yes...it was a "thrill". I think Marilyn was as happy (for me) as I was thrilled. I had to have her pull the car over... and YES... I THREW UP! Marilyn jumped out of the car... and did her HAPPY DANCE! (she was a "great friend") We laughed our thrilled asses off... all the rest of the way to the Wedding! Smiley Smiley
LOL  LOL  LOL
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who is/are Celebration (band) on: February 03, 2016, 01:33:35 PM
The dude on bass in that youtube link is a smokin' hot player!

Was he merely a session muso or did he go on to play in other bands?
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What if the Beach Boys were horses? on: February 03, 2016, 12:12:24 AM
Giddy-up Giddy-up Giddy-up you standing in the filed next to me
Barnyard
No-Go Show Pony
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 Stories on: February 01, 2016, 08:19:26 PM
Here's a sequence of artwork presented in comic book fashion or spreading the imagery over several frames.


409 by William Stout.  A tale of denial, obsession, depression, then finally victory and an out of this world conclusion. Real fine.



Heroes and Villians by Dan Green.
A relatively literal narrative based on the H&V lyrics, although the opening scene features a city in the clouds, shades of Columnated Ruins Domino from that other song, p'haps. If you look closely to the middle picture on the right hand side of the left page, you can see Catillion not dodging the bullets.

The book reveals a better colour palette and the texture of the canvass, which may not come in across in these snaps.




Pet Sounds by James McMullan (pics 1, 3, 6, 8, 9, 11, 12) and Ralph Reese (the other ones including the train!)
An interesting sequencing of a few PS songs that chart the rise and fall of a relationship, with the fall seemingly due to the emotional issues of the guy.  Poor girl, gets her heart broken at the start, finds new love, but finally leaves after what may have been a foot massage gone wrong.

Anyway, there's a picture of the (a) train!  Here's the story behind the sound on the LP, from the much missed Mikie, & Stephen Desper for those who may have missed it - http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,14765.msg337820.html#msg337820


137  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 tranche 2 on: February 01, 2016, 01:36:32 AM

Beach Boy's Party! a la '60s album style by Sean Earley
Pretty cool telling of the behind the curtain "process".  I dig the participants list at the bottom, just missing Steve Love as per the recent discussion on the uncovered/unplugged thread.


Vegetables - Joey Epstein/Tom Hachtman.  Photograph by Ben Asen.

Laugh, I almost kicked the ball, but my tenny flew right off!  This is kicking around on the interwebs, so perhaps familiar.


I Went To Sleep by Walter Simonson (after Gorey).


This Whole World by Dennis Pohl.  The print job on my copy has a very slight blur - it would be interesting to see a big print given the myriad components.


Cool, Cool, Water by Bobby London.
This is split across 2 pages hence a bit of confusion/overlap down the middle.  A busy and intricate piece with every little drop being individual in some slight way.

If someone can tell me who or what the perplexed duck dressed in traditional chinese garb behind the right hand palm tree is about, let me know.


That Same Song by Overton Lloyd.


Winds Of Change by Wayne McLouglan.
Far out!

138  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 on: January 31, 2016, 10:31:24 PM
I'll see what I can do  Grin
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 on: January 31, 2016, 10:00:23 PM
Thanks for posting but which one is "gal" (Fun Fun Fun pic)? I only see the guys protruding their big bums. Not that I care, just wonder where you see the girl.
NB: Is there a picture for "At My Window"?

The gal is at the wheel of the T-Bird driving off into the horizon, having dispatched those big-bummed beach bums and bent their long boards.

If you look closely, she's looking over her shoulder with a smile on her sunglassed dial (face), her blonde locks aspray in the jet stream of her hot red automobile.

Did you click on the thumb nail? It will open a bigger version where you can see more detail.

There is no picture for "At My Window" in this book.  From Sunflower, This Whole World and Cool Cool are featured. There's a nifty pic for I Went To Sleep.
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Celebrate the BBs Music 1967-1977 on Feb 13 on: January 31, 2016, 07:21:34 PM
That looks like a great event for those of you fortunate to have that kind of talent in your local area.

Nice to see the Autism Think Tank logo - enjoy!
141  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Albums You Tried Really Hard to Like on: January 30, 2016, 11:31:36 PM
"In The Aeroplane Over The Sea" by Neutral Milk Hotel is a hallowed album I struggle with.

King of Carrot Flowers, Pt. One - as brief as it, is on my all time top X.  Additionally, Two Headed Boy is pretty amazing stuff.  The rest tho', is a challenge.
142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 04:15:42 PM
Funny thing is I seem to recall a picture of Mike in just that setting. His pool, but don't remember where.

One that does not need an explanation is '15 Big Ones'. The group singing on a street corner.

If you do get the time, some of those shots would be appreciated by those here who have not seen them I'm sure.

For those who may be interested:
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,23341.msg558148/topicseen.html#msg558148
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Fabulous Illustrations from - The Beach Boys by Byron Preiss, '79 on: January 30, 2016, 03:56:39 PM
For those of you who don't or for sometime no longer have "The Beach Boys - The Authorised Biography Of America's Greatest Rock And Roll Band!" by Byron Preiss, here are a selection of shots of the artwork contained in said tome (there are many more).

While there are differing opinions on the written content of the book, readers may show appreciation for the FAB illustrations.

Some are sublime, some hilarious or amusing; some decidedly ludicrous.  But, as per all art, evocative or moving in some way, and there is something here for everyone no matter what your emotional disposition is.  Click on the thumbnails to see a bigger image.

Please feel free to add any better links or better shots than these one's I've cranked out this morning, pop up any that are missing.

As per SenorPotatoHead's lovely post in dog thread it would be great to hear any tidbits or stories any old dogs here may have re these pictures; first hand from the artist or via your previous contact with the book's production team.

Years ago, I contacted the artist of that painting, George Chastain, and he was very nice in replying.  He remembered the painting, which he had been commissioned to do for the book (along with a bunch of other artists), "The Beach Boys" that came out in the late '70's.   He had since sold the painting, which he stated he regretted, and that initially it was one of the band themselves who wished to purchase it, he recalled it being either Carl or maybe Bruce.     Ultimately it was sold to someone else.   I cannot find this email exchange I had with him on my computer, but it was within the last 5 to 7 years.  He is still with us, I believe and may be open to contact and questions.  
A quick search brought the following links:  
http://www.askart.com/artist/George_Chastain/121920/George_Chastain.aspx

https://www.linkedin.com/in/george-chastain-b2397a3

http://myweb.wvnet.edu/e-gor/portfolio/paintings/

Also, should there be any issues that require the links removed, PM me and I'll sort you out.

Ultimately, seek out a copy of the book for a better reproduction of the pics.  I really like it, and I hope you do too.


Fun Fun Fun by Harvey Kurtzman.  What a gal!


When I Grow Up by Ralph Reese featuring a rascally L'il Dennis cutting to the chase


15 Big Ones by Overton Lloyd


Busy Doin' Nothin' by Edward Gorey


Cuddle Up by JoEllen Trilling/photo by Ben Asen. I wonder if the Denny doll is still around?


Surfer Girl by Michael Kanarek.  Errrm, cowabunga?


This one is called Dennis and Mike by Bill Nelson.  You can buy the signed copy pictured here for 300 Gringo clams if you are running out of BB things to blow your bread on - click away.





144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 01:34:00 PM
In my 79 version thats Dennis with the picture of Mike behind him?
Yep! Smiley  I'm not sure why a contemplative Denny would be musing in front of a painting of Mike on the beach getting a massage from a gaggle of tiny beach babes.  Unless it's a "reimagining" of some other famous image (ie, looks like a different picture with Denny's head pasted in later).

And how about the ludicrous Surfer Girl air-brush pic - that would go well on a Panel Van down Frankston way.
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 30, 2016, 01:23:38 PM

These comments to Altham were after Taylor's piece: The band speaks as if they didn't get the word either.

So are you now suggesting no one in the band told Taylor?
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 01:18:58 PM
Just looking through the Byron Preiss book that has that 'Country Air' cartoon. As AGD said, some great artwork, some of which could be a discussion in themselves. Any chance you could do some more Alan?

 ie 'When I Grow Up To Be A Man' drawing by a Ralph Reese. Dennis going for a woman's chest, Al with a gun. Also 'Fun,Fun,Fun' by a Harvey Kurtzman. A blonde driving off with 5 obviously, shall we say 'satisfied' naked guys beside 5 limp surfboards. Brilliant!

I did find a couple from the book....

'Long Promised Road' and 'All This Is That'.

http://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2015/3/3/2/c/6/2c6ba482-c1d5-11e4-8125-0e1a37150d2f.jpg


I will if I get time, and if you can tell me what the hell the picture on page 129 is supposed to be about.
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 30, 2016, 12:48:57 PM

County Air by George Chastain, from the Byron Preiss.  Reproduced utilising M7 & ISP technology processes under 3400K source lighting.


Thanks for posting the illustration, Alan. May I ask, What is M7 & ISP technology processes under 3400K source lighting?

That's when you put the book on your living room table and take a photo with your iPhone  Grin
148  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Albums You Tried Really Hard to Like on: January 29, 2016, 11:03:14 PM
Ovi mentioned Dylan; the last four Dylan albums were very...trying. I liked Modern Times, but the next four - Together Through Life, Christmas In The Heart, Tempest, and Shadows In The Night were not of my liking. I didn't even buy Shadows Of The Night (though I heard it). To compound things, Dylan performs several of his new album cuts in concert, so, consequently, I kind of avoided his shows after seeing him every year for a few years. I'm glad Bob is still producing new albums, and I WANT to like them, but...

That's a shame re the gigs because while, yes, he performed recent material, he was on fire on the Tempest tour - the band were smoking and the stage/set design was amazing, a real experience imo.

But I say this as a relatively recent Dylan convertee who didn't "get" Dylan until I turned 38 or somethin'.

The Albums I don't get are Led Zepplin, I, II, III, IV and the other two.  I've really tried, I get the feeling I'm missing out on something.
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: List of Live rare cover recordings on: January 29, 2016, 10:50:14 PM
The john lennon song imagine in the early 80s, there's footage on YouTube of it, maybe Seattle 1982/3

Cool!  A live version dated  9.4.1983 at Stanley Theatre, Pittsburg, Pennsylvania is kicking around on Surfin' Rarities Vol 5, I'm, err, told.  The liner notes don't indicate if it the track is from the 7.30 show or the 10pm.
150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: If the Beach Boys were dogs... on: January 29, 2016, 07:01:26 PM
Trying and failing to find online that illustration from Millward's book  which depicts the Boys as animals wading through long grass… Broan's a bear, Al's a duck, Bruce might be a raccoon … I think.

Anyone able to provide a link here?



County Air by George Chastain, from the Byron Preiss.  Reproduced utilising M7 & ISP technology processes under 3400K source lighting.
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