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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Did The Beach Boys Play To Segregated Audiences on: September 30, 2020, 01:14:05 AM
Not saying it was a wise decision to perform in S.A., but I do want to put it in a broader context. One might want to check out the Wiki page on Sun City, and it's controversial status, both within South Africa and internationally.:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sun_City_(South_Africa)

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History

Sun City was developed by the hotel magnate Sol Kerzner as part of his Sun International group of properties. It was officially opened on 7 December 1979, then located in the Bantustan of Bophuthatswana.

As Bophuthatswana had been declared an independent state by South Africa's apartheid government (although unrecognized as such by any other country), it could provide entertainment such as gambling and topless revue shows, which were banned in South Africa. Those factors, as well as its relatively-close location to the large metropolitan areas of Pretoria and Johannesburg, ensured that Sun City soon became a popular holiday and weekend destination.

The United Nations had imposed a cultural boycott on South Africa in condemnation of apartheid. To overcome this, Kerzner offered substantial financial incentives to performing artists to use Sun City as a venue. Several famous performers disregarded the boycott and performed at the venue, such as the Beach Boys,[1] Linda Ronstadt,[1] Cher,[1] Millie Jackson,[1] Liza Minnelli,[1] Frank Sinatra (1981),[2] Paul Anka,[2] Status Quo,[3] Rod Stewart (July 1983),[2][3] and Elton John (October 1983).[2] British rock band Queen's series of performances at the venue in October 1984—in transgression of the boycott—caused considerable controversy, prompting criticism in the British music press, a fine from the Musicians' Union, and Queen's inclusion on the United Nations' blacklisted artists. Following the criticism, Queen strongly defended their decision, citing the fact that they had insisted they played only to desegregated audiences. They also donated to a school for the deaf and blind to prove their philanthropic values.[3] In the late 1980s, Queen's song "We Will Rock You" was used as the sound track to Sun City's 60-second video promo, which was shown as commercial on SABC-TV and also when opening shows in Sun City's Superbowl auditorium.







The last 2 pictures were taken at the Sun City Hotel, with a view on the Sun City lagoon (and a few outskirts of Pilanesberg/mountain). Here's a picture of the mountain (at the lake) as it looks these days.





2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has Ricky Fataar had any solo releases on: February 09, 2020, 01:51:57 AM
And perhaps less known, but also an interesting fact is Ricky's involvement with David Cassidy's Home Is Where the Heart Is album. Ricky plays drums on Tomorrow and On Fire, both which were released on single (the latter as the b-side to Breaking Down Again). The b-side of Tomorrow - Half Past Your Bedtime - is a co-write of David, Ricky and Gerry Beckley (Ricky was involved with America's Silent Letter album). And the album was produced by David and ... Bruce Johnston ! It's a small BB-world, isn't it?



3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has Ricky Fataar had any solo releases on: February 09, 2020, 01:22:40 AM
To give you an idea of what Ricky has done musically after he left the Beach Boys (and Joe Walsh's Barnstorm), here's a pic of some releases he's been involved with.




- Crowded House: Weather With You (Ricky plays drums on three tracks of the Woodface album, among which this track)
- Tim Finn: Too Much Friction (Ricky co-produced this track and the Escapade album, he also plays drums on this album)
- Robert Palmer: She Makes My Day (Ricky plays (additional) drums on the Heavy Nova album, including this track, and on Simply Irresistable)
- Bonnie Raitt: Nick Of Time (Ricky plays drums and percussion on this track - he also plays drums on most of the other album tracks)
- The Ruttles: I Must Be In Love EP (no comment  Grin )
- Womack & Womack: Teardrops (Ricky drums on this track and the Concience album)
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Has Ricky Fataar had any solo releases on: February 06, 2020, 07:04:58 AM
If you want to get an idea of what Ricky has been doing since he left the Beach Boys, check www.the-flames.eu. Click on "Solo" on the menu bar left. You'd be surprised to see how productive he was, as both a composer, musician and producer.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / 22 years ago... on: February 06, 2020, 06:46:54 AM
... gone but not forgotten...

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Ricky Fataar on: December 14, 2019, 11:27:50 PM
Ricky stayed very active as both a musician and producer. Check www.the-flames.eu and go To Solo Efforts > Ricky Fataar.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Lead Vocals on 1970's The Flame on: August 22, 2019, 11:08:03 PM
Steve sings most other leads on that album. As was also the case on their previous Flames albums.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: August 02, 2019, 05:23:30 AM
Thanks for the information! I only found it coincidentally by typing in "Beach Boys 1970" or something into google's picture search function.
What would you say, is that Dennis between Al and Bruce? Kinda looks like him to my eyes, though usually it would be Carl's place; probably singing "Their hearts were full of spring".

I'm not sure, but to me it looks like Carl. He was wearing a white (or light) jacket that night.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The *official* Brian/BB picture thread on: August 01, 2019, 05:17:29 AM


That's a pretty unique picture, Rocker. According to this article in a Dutch newspaper (I actually found 3 articles with that same picture), this one was taken during the now famous December 18 1970 concert in Amsterdam. You know, the midnight concert that started a bit later than planned due to fog (or early, if you consider it started on the 19th at 5:15AM). Nice to see it in better quality.

10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2019, 02:20:21 PM
Pictures and videosnippets from the Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte Rotterdam July 5th concert

Arriving at the stage


At the dock, waiting for the ships to arrive


The promenade from the dock to the stage


The stage; the screen shows pictures of the Spido company from the early days


The first ship arrives; this one is well on time


Mike checking the stage – I think there two at most that recognized him (I was one of them); everybody kept chatting and drinking…


VIDEO-snippet: The orchestra starts with an overture
https://youtu.be/HcpIdoJDRj8

The band joins, starting with Do It Again


VIDEO-snippet: Surfer Girl
https://youtu.be/VNV20MniXR8

VIDEO-snippet: Kiss Me Baby
https://youtu.be/DQ9Fb6XbqK4

During the shortened car-medley


Fun, Fun, Fun with Fireworks


VIDEO-snippet: Fun, Fun, Fun with Fireworks
https://youtu.be/zUt0iFjcnVI

…and goodbye !




11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Pictures from the Luxor Rotterdam July 3rd concert



Do You Wanna Dance?


During the car medley


Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring


God Only Knows



12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2019, 05:52:39 AM
Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, July 5th 2019

This concert was a special one. The owner of the water tour company Spido wanted to celebrate their 100 year jubilee with a special concert. He had seen the Beach Boys perform in Rotterdam (Nieuwe Luxor Theater) in 2017 and had decided to get this group back in the Netherlands in 2019 for a special concert with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra. And so it happened apparently. The location was a special one as well: in the heart of the industrial port area Tweede Maasvlakte. A "new" part of the Netherlands, built where used to be the North Sea. Between the transhipment companies, cranes, and containers a large stage was built where the band could perform. Attendants could go to the venue by boat from the center of Rotterdam (a 2 and a half hour trip with diner, and the same trip back with beverages and food, accompanied by a Joe Cocker tribute band). Or one could go by car, drive to a central parking spot and be transported by a shuttle bus. The latter being a lot cheaper of course. The venue was a closed area , enclosed by containers. Except for the typical sea-smell, the beach atmosphere was nowhere to been seen (except for a few fake palmtrees that were placed along the path from the harbour to the stage). But the location was special nonetheless, seeing the cranes in the distance being operated during the concert and large boats passing by. Mike even made a joke about it when they entered the stage ("you know... we're just doing it for the oil and gas..."). Within the concerts area there were several stalls with beverages and cold/hot snacks. As there were only limited seats available for the disabled and special guests, the atmosphere was that of a festival.

I had already heard from Scott that because of the venue's location, the scheduled starting time (21PM), and the fact that an intermission was planned, a shorter set would be played. The concert would end at 23PM with a firework show, which couldn't be shifted. The concert started 15 minutes too late though, due to the last boat with special guests (including the mayor) arriving too late at the venue. Because of that the intermission was shortened; the band only took a short break during the RPO’s rendition of In My Room.
It was very interesting to see how the orchestra and band collaborated. Mind you that they only had time to talk and practice together during the afternoon prior to the show. And where normally a conductor leads the orchestra and band, in this case she had to follow the band, concentrating on both what the band did and lead the orchestra through it. And she - with the orchestra - did a heck of a job, giving many songs extra punch, or familiar studio sounds (like for example the cello in Good Vibrations). And the Beach Boys clearly appreciated that, letting us know that several times during the concert.

As you can see, compared to the set of two days earlier, they didn't just shortened it, a few other songs were thrown in as well (Catch A Wave, Kiss Me Baby, All The Love In Paris), and was reshuffled quite a bit.  Also noticeable was that Scott didn’t do any leads due to a sour throat. The Boys were in good form again, clearly enjoying the collaboration with an orchestra and the location.

As said the show ended with fireworks, and it closed with the announcement that - because of the 100 year jubilee - Spido was awarded the title "Royal company" by the King of the Netherlands.

Setlist Rotterdam, July 5th 2019:
1. Overture (performed by the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra)
2. Do It Again
2. Surfin' Safari
3. Catch A Wave (ML + Eichenbacher)
5. Surfin' U.S.A.
6. Surfer Girl (band)
7. Getcha Back
8. Darlin' (Eichenbacher)
9. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
10. Kiss Me Baby
11. All The Love In Paris
12. Warmth Of The Sun (Eichenbacher)
13. Don't Worry Baby (Eichenbacher)
14. Little Deuce Coupe
15. I Get Around

16. Intermission / In My Room (performed by the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra)

17. California Dreamin' (Cowsill)
18. Then I Kissed Her (Eichenbacher)
19. California Girls
20. Sloop John B. (BJ/Totten + ML)
21. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Eichenbacher)
the first 2 notes of I Write The Songs are played/sung during the introduction of grammy winner Bruce
22. Disney Girls (1957) (BJ)
23. God Only Knows (Christian Love)
24. Pisces Brothers
25. Cottonfields (Cowsill)
26. Help Me, Rhonda (Christian Love)
27. Barbara Ann (band)
28. Good Vibrations (Christian Love)
29. Kokomo
30. Fun, Fun, Fun

During the fireworks the Mike Love solo track Make Love Not War was played


Locations Rotterdam concerts Nieuwe Luxor Theater (right) and Futureland, Tweede Maasvlakte (left)

Read more: http://endlessharmony.boards.net/thread/580/beach-boys-2019-tour-rotterdam?page=1#ixzz5suO8ZdxV






The stage was located at where the bus is standing
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 06, 2019, 02:22:13 AM
I had a blast yesterday. The combination with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra worked out great. Will tell more later on. But here the setlist.

14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 04, 2019, 11:18:33 AM
Nice stage on the 5th
https://www.ad.nl/rotterdam/spektakel-mega-podium-op-tweede-maasvlakte-voor-concert-beach-boys~a3b6f580/
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: July 04, 2019, 06:18:42 AM
I was at the concert in Het Nieuwe Luxortheater in Rotterdam yesterday (July 3rd). A good and solid show. See setlist below. I thought both Mike and Bruce's voice held up quite well. And Brian Eichenbacher and Christian Love leads were good imo. The number of leadvocs by John and Scott seem to decrease... Nice to hear Mike speak fondly on his memories of their stay in The Netherlands while recording the Holland album. The Dec. 1970 night concert in Amsterdam (which was delayed almost 5 hours due to fog) was mentioned as well. They do remember those bits of history.

The band (and families) are enjoying a free day today (very appropriate on July 4th). Tomorrow another show, near Rotterdam on the Tweede Maasvlakte. The exact location is unknown, but it's most probably on the beach. When travelling by car one apparently simply has to follow the signs when arriving in the area. From the parking lot busses will transport us to the venue. It's a concert with the Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra. A relatively short set - 2 hours (starting at nine o'clock) including an intermission. Probably no rarities to be expected. But special nonetheless. This concert was organised by cruise company Spido to celebrate their 100th anniversary.
https://www.spido.nl/en/tochten-cruises/consert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest (no English page available with general info or for buying tickets)
https://www.rotterdamsphilharmonisch.nl/en/agenda/176/The_Beach_Boys_en_het_Rotterdams_Philharmonisch_Orkest/100_jaar_Spido_The_Beach_Boys/

Setlist Rotterdam, July 3rd 2019:

First set:
1. Do It Again
2. Surfin' Safari
3. California Sun
4. It's O.K.
5. Surfin' U.S.A.
6. Surfer Girl (band)
7. Then I Kissed Her (Eichenbacher)
8. Dance, Dance, Dance
9. Do You Wanna Dance? (BJ)
10. Good To My Baby (Eichenbacher + ML)
11. In My Room (band)
12. When I Grow Up (To Be A Man)
13. Darlin'  (Eichenbacher)
14. Cottonfields (Cowsill)
15. Warmth Of The Sun (Totten)
16. Getcha Back
17. Don't Worry Baby (Eichenbacher)
18. Little Deuce Coupe
19. 409
20. Shut Down
21. I Get Around

Second set
22. California Dreamin'  (Cowsill)
23. California Girls
24. Sloop John B. (Totten + ML)
25. Wouldn't It Be Nice (Eichenbacher)
26. Their Hearts Were Full Of Spring (ML + BJ + Totten + Eichenbacher)
a few lines of I Write The Songs are played/sung during the introduction of grammy winner Bruce
27. Disney Girls (1957) (BJ)
28. Sail On Sailor (Christian Love)
29. All This Is That (Christian Love)
30. God Only Knows (Christian Love)
31. Pisces Brothers
32. Here Comes The Sun
33. Kokomo
34. All Summer Long
35. Help Me, Rhonda (Christian Love)
36. Barbara Ann (band)
37. Rock & Roll Music
38. Summertime Blues
39. Good Vibrations (Christian Love)

Encore:
40. Rockaway Beach
41. Fun, Fun, Fun
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Comments on Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague on: June 21, 2019, 12:13:45 AM

And so, another thing Mike got away with . . .

... and I assume you didn’t record that little bit, right?  Grin


COMMENT to SMiLE-Holland:  Your assumption is correct.  Please consider that I'm in a communist country with only one official between me and the Russian authority, my equipment is damaged in a way that could cancel the show unless I get it working, the surroundings are hostile and very uncomfortable, I've got kids hanging off the speakers and amplifier cases --- recording is not a priority.  ~swd

O, I'd definitely consider that as well if I were in your shoes. I was actually surprised others did take some chances (with this great story you told us as a result).

17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Comments on Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague on: June 20, 2019, 01:05:30 PM
And so, another thing Mike got away with . . .

Mike became so frustrated with the audience, that, over the headphones, I could hear him shouting at the screaming kids, "Shut up you funking commies. What the hell did we come here for? No wonder you funking commies don't have Hammond organs!" and silly things like that.[/size]  ~swd


... and I assume you didn’t record that little bit, right?  Grin



I feel like an entire book could be written on this one event.  Grin

COMMENT to Jay:  Actually it has. One was published on the entire event in Czechoslovakia years ago. I know because I helped the author with his research. ~swd

That’s a book I’d like to read one day.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Comments on Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague on: June 20, 2019, 12:59:32 PM

(P.S. don’t tell . . . )


I know notting...  Grin

So (1) Mike made a remark on Václav Havel sitting in the audience... and got away with it > Capitalists vs Communists 1-0
And (2) marvellous payback action with the tix > Ca vs Co 2-0.

Just kidding here. Seriously, great story! Thanks for sharing!

Note: not taking any political side or trying to derail this topic (although I don’t mind living in a capitalistic world...)

The

Maybe I'm wrong, but
Wasn't the gentleman in the audience Alexander Dubcek?  I know I thought of him as a hero during the Prague Spring and I wept when the tanks rolled in. Of course maybe Havel was there as well.
Joining the chorus of thanking Mr Desper for his wonderful memories and insights.

Yep, my bad. It was Dubcek.

19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Comments on Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague on: June 19, 2019, 02:00:09 PM

(P.S. don’t tell . . . )


I know notting...  Grin

So (1) Mike made a remark on Václav Havel sitting in the audience... and got away with it > Capitalists vs Communists 1-0
And (2) marvellous payback action with the tix > Ca vs Co 2-0.

Just kidding here. Seriously, great story! Thanks for sharing!

Note: not taking any political side or trying to derail this topic (although I don’t mind living in a capitalistic world...)
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Comments on Czechoslovakia at the Lucerna Great Hall in Prague on: June 19, 2019, 10:52:45 AM
Thanks for sharing your recollections with us, Stephen. I love these “behind the screens” type of stories. Weird to read that despite the political situation it was apparently approved that they could perform here. And that the Russiona army even supplied tank batteries to make it happen.

I also recall that their allowance isn’t exactly what they had expected. Iirc they / you had to spend the revenue before leaving the country, as it wasn’t allowed to take the local currecny across the border. Right?
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Honkin' Down the Highway Single/LOVE YOU Marketing on: June 15, 2019, 01:30:14 PM
I think the fact that the Group had signed a new contract with CBS in March, a month prior to the release of Love You didn’t help either. Warner was not amused to say the least.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: CD Availability Question (Analogue Productions) on: June 13, 2019, 01:28:37 PM
I had the same question about Holland about a year ago and I asked around on this or another board and I was told that although “We Got Love” doesn’t appear on the track listing, it appears on the actual disc. I went ahead and got a copy and lo and behold, “We Got Love” appeared as an extra hidden track. So I believe you can still get a copy with “We Got Love” on it. (It’s possible I just got lucky I suppose.) Like you, I remember back when AP originally advertised “We Got Love” appearing on the CD, not sure why they removed all references to it and turned it into some sort of mystery later on.

It’s on the 2LP vinyl release as well. Again no mention on the sleeve or the labels, but it’s on the bonus LP, with Mt Vernon & Fairway and WGL on side 3, and -no clue why- SOS again, but on 45RPM (it has the same time notation as the album track on side 1.

O, and it should be notee that WGL on the Analogue Productions releases is NOT the version that ended up on early promo’s from 1972 and a couple of hundred early German pressings from 1973. The AP releases on CD and LP contain a longer edit.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Happy Birthday to SMiLE-Holland on: May 20, 2019, 01:18:37 PM
Today's birthday is that of SMiLE-Holland, who helped me a lot when I first joined Smiley.

Hartelijk gefeliciteerd, Klaas, en veel dank! Smiley



Well thank you !
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: April 12, 2019, 11:42:05 AM
As a fan of the RPO I'd opt for the second concert. (I believe tickets go on sale tomorrow.)

Sale for both concerts started this morning. I already bought tickets for both gigs.


25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: April 12, 2019, 07:19:46 AM
Last minute additions to the European 2019 tour: 2 concerts in The Netherlands:

July 3rd: Nieuwe Luxor Theater, Rotterdam
https://www.luxortheater.nl/voorstellingen/4614/Met_Mike_Love_en_Bruce_Johnston/The_Beach_Boys_USA_/

July 5th: Tweede Maasvlakte, Rotterdam, with the (Dutch) Rotterdams Philharmonic Orchestra
https://www.spido.nl/tochten-cruises/concert-the-beach-boys-en-het-rotterdams-philharmonisch-orkest

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