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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: John K's Palindrome Topic
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on: September 06, 2016, 01:30:57 PM
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Let me be the first. John now has almost 10 K`s worth of postings (and counting) to his good name over there in his "NEBENGESCHÄFFT" running that other `Beach Boys forum` !! If that doesn`t call for a H^IQ-PAL.[=jk], I don`t know what does:
>YO! John K[ay]s T*N THOUSAND
DNAs ! U'~oh: TnT`s !
YAK ? N°ho : JOY !!<
Thank you, Rasmus. I should imagine you'll be the first and the last. We only make small ripples over there, you know. I should point out that I don't run the other place but just post there a lot, so I suppose it does have my stamp on it to an extent... The other prolific poster there is Cool Cool Water. Talking of other places, a major player in Beach Boy Fan Land is having his birthday today. This has been celebrated on "my" forum but not on "his". Odd, wouldn't you say?
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs you are obsessing over.
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on: September 05, 2016, 05:50:26 AM
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2john k: didn't you set the rule "1 artist - 1 album"?
For myself, you mean. Generally speaking, yes, but it's not entirely unbending. Some artists are worth exploring further but even then the first album I hear is often the one for me. But not always. I had to listen to three by Mac DeMarco before I found "the one" ( Salad Days).
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: So what did we all do today?
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on: September 05, 2016, 05:42:45 AM
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In the past week watched the movies "Hills have eyes 2", "Harry Potter 6-7", "Jurassic Park", "Sherlock Holmes", "Ghost Ship".
May I ask which Sherlock Holmes, RR? And thanks for removing your post in "The Welcome Thread". :=)
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds Forum
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on: September 05, 2016, 03:01:50 AM
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Hal once complained that he'd forgotten his password at PS and had to turn some image the right way up to prove he was human. This didn't work for some reason. This latest post is his comment on that situation. It explains the word "Wrong" scrawled in mirror image near the bottom. Hal moves in mysterious ways!
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Does this song sound familiar to anyone here?
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on: September 05, 2016, 02:38:12 AM
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Now that I think about it, I'm almost positive that I've heard this song in a tv show.
I suppose the thing now is find out what US TV shows were telecast in Slovakia in January 2012 up to the 23rd, when the vid was uploaded. (Of course it may not necessarily have been a Slovakian channel.) I'm not on YouTube (I left out of protest) otherwise I'd approach deathclaw555 to see if he can remember where he heard it...
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Question for the guitarists in the house
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on: September 05, 2016, 01:31:37 AM
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I'm no guitarist but the "lie" of the chords is curious----is the player plucking with three fingers and missing out strings? They seem to be sliding down and up the neck in a single position of three notes in fifths. I first thought it might be a trebly bass playing way up the neck but surely it's too high-pitched for that... What do you think the set-up of those opening chords is? It sounds to me like strumming but the intervals seem too great a stretch----unless the instrument was tuned in power chords or something. Please explain to this dense pianist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFUIbmIJEUThose are what I call the "Andy Summers Chords", voicings in fourths. It's the same shapes Summers used on Message In A Bottle and Every Breath You Take. In fact, this specific song uses a similar if not the same chord layout as Summers on Every Breath. On this song, the root chords are Bb to Gmin. It can be played on the lowest 4 strings, EADG. It can start on the 6th fret E, 8th fret A, and 10th fret D. Then they take it up to the major 3rd note "D", 7th fret G string, then back to the fourths shape. It shifts down to 3rd fret E, 5th fret A, and 7th fret D, up to the minor 3rd note "Bb", and back. Notes of the arpeggios: Bb, F, C and up to D...then G, D, A and up to Bb. Borrowed from Andy Summers on Every Breath You Take. They also could have had a capo on the third fret which would make the Gm arpeggio an easier reach. I've never associated the riff of "EBYT" with a single position----not being a guitarist, I suppose. So the first chord avails itself of the G-string for the shift in the top note, whereas that shift in the second chord is small enough to make on the same string. Thanks very much, gf. The shift on the second chord wouldn't be on the same string, it would be on the "G" as well. The way Summers did it was the G is an open string, so that's why I thought this mystery song's guitar may have been capo'ed on the 3rd fret to get the same effect Summers did on EBYT. If that note being shifted to on the G would have been stretched on the same string D, you'd lose some of the sustaining sound from the other strings. When Summers shifts strings to the G, it gives a different tonal quality because it's an open string. Disclaimer: Many, many "official" songbooks and tab books have both EBYT and Message tabbed out in incorrect positions. Right notes, but some truly awful positions that are not what Summers played. And the recording of EBYT depending on where you get it can be sped up and sound out of key compared to where he played it. Chalk that up to mastering or that they sped the tape up a bit for a sonic boost. Even the "official" Police guitar books can fall short, yet you can see Summers himself playing both songs on a number of videos. Thanks for the info (again). I like the capo idea. It sounds like there's a second more electric sounding guitar playing the notes B flat and G under the top notes of those chords during the verses. Maybe this guitar slams on the distortion when it shifts to E flat. There must be a bass guitar in there somewhere but it's very hard to pick out (with my equipment anyway). Oddly, I've never warmed to "EBYT" (to say nothing of Puff Daddy's remake!). "MIAB" is another matter. Looking at "EBYT"'s wikipage I see Summers had just recorded I Advanced Masked with Fripp and was "sort of experimenting with playing Bartok violin duets" at the time. At all events, I'll be listening to "EBYT" with different ears in future!
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs you are obsessing over.
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on: September 05, 2016, 01:08:01 AM
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Not wanting to be an undercover-m tribute act or anything but I do have AO's album Half Way Home lined up... My goodness, you're gonna turn into me! But hey, that's not such a bad thing, right? That 's true but I think my family and friends might not understand. I think it's because your choices are less complicated. No comparisons made with other tracks/albums made by the artist in question. That tends to throw me off the scent. The track by Cymbals Eat Guitars is pretty cool too. :=)
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Question for the guitarists in the house
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on: September 04, 2016, 09:37:15 AM
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I'm no guitarist but the "lie" of the chords is curious----is the player plucking with three fingers and missing out strings? They seem to be sliding down and up the neck in a single position of three notes in fifths. I first thought it might be a trebly bass playing way up the neck but surely it's too high-pitched for that... What do you think the set-up of those opening chords is? It sounds to me like strumming but the intervals seem too great a stretch----unless the instrument was tuned in power chords or something. Please explain to this dense pianist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFUIbmIJEUThose are what I call the "Andy Summers Chords", voicings in fourths. It's the same shapes Summers used on Message In A Bottle and Every Breath You Take. In fact, this specific song uses a similar if not the same chord layout as Summers on Every Breath. On this song, the root chords are Bb to Gmin. It can be played on the lowest 4 strings, EADG. It can start on the 6th fret E, 8th fret A, and 10th fret D. Then they take it up to the major 3rd note "D", 7th fret G string, then back to the fourths shape. It shifts down to 3rd fret E, 5th fret A, and 7th fret D, up to the minor 3rd note "Bb", and back. Notes of the arpeggios: Bb, F, C and up to D...then G, D, A and up to Bb. Borrowed from Andy Summers on Every Breath You Take. They also could have had a capo on the third fret which would make the Gm arpeggio an easier reach. I've never associated the riff of "EBYT" with a single position----not being a guitarist, I suppose. So the first chord avails itself of the G-string for the shift in the top note, whereas that shift in the second chord is small enough to make on the same string. Thanks very much, gf.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Question for the guitarists in the house
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on: September 04, 2016, 08:29:03 AM
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I'm no guitarist but the "lie" of the chords is curious----is the player plucking with three fingers and missing out strings? They seem to be sliding down and up the neck in a single position of three notes in fifths. I first thought it might be a trebly bass playing way up the neck but surely it's too high-pitched for that... What do you think the set-up of those opening chords is? It sounds to me like strumming but the intervals seem too great a stretch----unless the instrument was tuned in power chords or something. Please explain to this dense pianist. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtFUIbmIJEU
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the \
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on: September 04, 2016, 05:02:01 AM
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I'm glad you've checked them out, john! Nice to know someone reads my posts over there. Oh yes, I look in there regularly and check out your and other posters' choices of music. All grist to the mill, you know. :=) I listened to Angel Olsen's new album on a plane ride today.
I've been listening to the full-length version of "Moaner" by Underworld, as used in the movie Batman & Robin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7cqEasrY00I have their brilliant album Beaucoup Fish, which closes with a slightly truncated version of "Moaner", but the above cut is unabridged.
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