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4101  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Scandinavian music thread on: September 28, 2016, 05:53:45 AM
John, do you know Bo Hansson? Will all respect for Mike (not Love this time!), I think of him as a better Mike Oldfield.

No I don't. Thanks for the tip. I'll check him out later...

I couldn't get into Mr Hansson, But then I couldn't really get into Mr Oldfield either. He came in at the top, and the only way from there is down.

But... one thing led to another and I found this fine orchestral work by Aulis Sallinen:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IMXlBK1_Yg8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aulis_Sallinen

So, all's well that ends well. :=)

4102  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: John K's Palindrome Topic on: September 28, 2016, 05:44:29 AM
This palindrome features the two other names the Beach Boys have had in their career: 

One S, no I's. (Sap, eh?) Two-rid'n' Al races pals. Diesel a "pendle" if tones unite. Jet in use, not field. Nepalese IDs lapse. Carl and I row the Passions, Eno
4103  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The return of the \ on: September 28, 2016, 03:11:35 AM
Earlier:


This is Glassworks, right? Beautiful album...
4104  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Sounds and Race on: September 28, 2016, 03:10:07 AM
Peter Reum's comments are apposite:

http://petsoundsforum.com/thread/801/60s-white-sounds-pet?page=1&scrollTo=10644
4105  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Adam Marsland's Chaos Band \ on: September 28, 2016, 02:50:30 AM
Couldn't find another place to bring this up. As you probably know, I've been listening through your amazing studio catalogue (again) and was amused by your dislike of "I'm Not Charley"! (Might the name Charley have come from Steinbeck's canine travelling companion?) I myself have no problem with the song at all----what a gorgeous tag.

I know it's not listed in the lineup, but is there a cello in there somewhere? It sounds suspiciously like it to me.
4106  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: person on this board would you most like to meet for a day on: September 28, 2016, 01:50:54 AM
So what began as a "just imagine" topic has since moved into the realms of real time. Which throws other more practical aspects into the mix----the opportunity, the money, the geographical distance, even the inclination...

It's possible that some folks, given the opportunity (to say nothing of the money) to travel, say, to the States, would have had another long-cherished wish on their list for years, maybe decades, that would quite simply come first.

Don't want to burst no bubbles (no pun intended). Just saying...
4107  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: September 27, 2016, 01:36:29 PM
Just want to make sure I have this right....the BWPS version of "Good Vibrations" is all original words written by VDP, correct?  Or are some of those lyrics also Mike Loves? If those are all VDP's original lyrics, a lot of them were left in and Mike really only changed a few lines it seems like...am i wrong?

Those are Tony Asher's original lyrics. Someone (Emdeeh?) described them as placeholders for permanent lyrics. Most likely, but they have their own charm...

This is the first, Pet Sounds-era take of "GV" with Tony's lyrics:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qz2SabvaOjQ




     
4108  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Rolling Stone review on: September 27, 2016, 12:46:02 PM
Thanks, Ang. I couldn't read it through a load of pop-up sh*t so I've copy-and-pasted it here: 

Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Mike Love Tell All in Starkly Different Memoirs
New books from both singer and songwriter offer opposing takes on band's legend
By Rob Sheffield


The Beach Boys saga has always haunted the American imagination because of the family bond at the heart of it: the three Wilson brothers – tortured genius Brian, shy Carl, madman drummer Dennis – and their abusive dad, thrown together in a surf band with their flashy cousin. Part of the poignancy is Brian Wilson versus Mike Love – two California boys who never should have been in the same room, much less trapped together for life. Wilson and Love both have excellent new memoirs, telling the story from opposite perspectives. Since Beach Boys fans are fiercely tribal – hardcore Brianistas dismiss Love as a mercenary clod riding his cousins' coattails – both books are musts, not to mention guaranteed argument-starters.

I Am Brian Wilson is soulful and earnest – like spending quality time with a gentle sage with an endearingly erratic attention span. It jumps chaotically all over the timeline. Wilson is heartbreakingly blunt about his mental breakdowns and suffering at the hands of his father. He has startling insights into the music, as with the obscure early tune "Don't Hurt My Little Sister," which comes back to haunt him in middle age: "Maybe it's because it was a song about protection and I felt scared that no one was protecting me." Through it all, he remains a frightened kid who connects to the world mainly through music. "Songs are out there all the time, but they can't be made without people," he writes. "You have to do your job and help songs come into existence."

As for his singer – well, as Wilson writes, "Mike had a funny way of looking at things." Good Vibrations is exactly the Mike Love book you'd hope for – he revels in his image as one of rock's unrepentant assholes. As he notes with pride, "For those who believe that Brian walks on water, I will always be the Antichrist." He doesn't care if you like him or not – what he cares about is settling scores and nursing grudges. Good Vibrations is one of the most gleefully petty rock memoirs ever – it ranks up there with Morrissey's Autobiography when it comes to the airing of grievances.

Love boasts about how much money he made suing Wilson for defamation the last time he published a memoir, though he insists he wouldn't stoop to actually reading the whole book. He's had it up to here with "Brian's hagiographers and sycophants" – he sees himself as the band's leader. Most rock memoirs get boring when they start talking lawsuits, but for Love this is the surf's-up part: Litigation is his happy place. Depositions are his Kokomo, cross-examinations his Aruba. One highlight comes when he's choosing a lawyer to sue Wilson: "His willingness to help me was a revelation, but we still needed to do our astrological vetting." Fortunately, Love's astrologer approves the lawyer because "in the twelfth House of Justice he has an exalted Jupiter."
The constant family betrayals add up – at one point, the 36-year-old Dennis impregnates one of his teenage daughter's friends. She happens to be Love's 17-year-old daughter. (They split just a few months after their wedding, before Dennis drowned.) In a depressing scene, Brian attends Love's wedding, where Carl sings "God Only Knows"; Love's best man is the lawyer who's just deposed Brian for 17 days.
If you were hoping either book would make you feel warm and fuzzy about the Beach Boys – well, wouldn't it be nice? But neither is watered-down product. Both are full of pain. For Love, the injustice is how the world still feels so much affection for Wilson in all his fragile humanity. I saw a Wilson show this summer where he spaced on the second verse of "I Just Wasn't Made for These Times." He chuckled and said, "Oh, I forgot the words." The crowd sang it for him until he figured out where to come in for the chorus. It could have been a pitiful moment; instead, it was suffused with warmth. That's a moment I won't forget – there isn't a moment like it in Love's book. How can such troubled men create such beautiful music? God only knows.

4109  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: person on this board would you most like to meet for a day on: September 27, 2016, 12:35:13 PM
That's the problem with mentioning names. Other names then start coming to mind and guilt sets in (the way it does). So----let the convention happen!  Beer
4110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Passions Supergroup Album on: September 27, 2016, 12:14:28 PM


Hey John!
Sounds brilliant so far! A number of tracks are new to me. Is it possible to give a list of which group plays on which track? Or is this already online somewhere? 

Nice work, HaV!


Wishing you were here, Call on me, Byblos, Song of the evagreens and searching so long are Chicago tracks.

Shyin' Away, Superstar, Sweet Mountain, Now that everything's been said are American spring tracks.


Precious love and Bill are songs by the flames.



The rest are the Boys!

Thanks! It was the Chicago tracks (I know nothing of theirs) and "Precious Love" that threw me. Great mixtape you got there.
4111  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: person on this board would you most like to meet for a day on: September 27, 2016, 07:43:36 AM
Well, the question is "for a day". To travel big distance to meet anybody from Smiley for just a day, then go back - nope, can't see doing this. That said, would like to meet Al in Big Sur (he doesn't post but "Matt J" does).

No wonder a number of posters would genuinely like to meet you. :=)
4112  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: So what did we all do today? on: September 27, 2016, 04:26:58 AM
Shot paintballs at hilary & trump signs.. dont care for either  LOL.  
 Laughed at the guy down the street who keeps having his trump sign stolen off his 'property' by this black dude who lives the next street over  LOL. Called the cops police like our tax dollars should be wasted on that Roll Eyes.  the cops dont care LOL

 LOL LOL

Yesterday I assembled Toothbrush Man out of Lego. (I already have Baker Man, who gets wheeled into position as a reminder to me to get a new loaf out of the freezer that evening.) TM is to help me remember to brush our little dog's teeth. Obviously, we can't have a dog's toothbrush standing around all day in the living room. He's a type of dog whose teeth get brown very easily and very quickly, which means he then needs them cleaned under anaesthetic, which is no fun for him (or for us). So it's up to me now. He hates it. I can sympathize----toothbrushes are refined instruments of torture.
4113  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Passions Supergroup Album on: September 27, 2016, 03:44:12 AM
Sounds brilliant so far! A number of tracks are new to me. Is it possible to give a list of which group plays on which track? Or is this already online somewhere? 

Nice work, HaV!
4114  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: person on this board would you most like to meet for a day on: September 27, 2016, 01:07:18 AM
I hope one of the ladies picks me (in your dreams, john k) but right now I would like to spend a day with unreleased backgrounds. We could discuss music and drink beer. And then I could ask what on earth induced him to change his name, avatar and signature to please delete my account. LOL        
aw darn, no love for undercoverm?

You guys might be talking about members you'd like to hang out with, but I've recently spent an entire February's worth of time with Bubbly Waves.

He's the only one I've met in person. I'd probably enjoy a day with john k or the captain, too.

Yeah, sorry, M. Chronic lack of self-confidence on my part, I'm afraid. I'm hopeless at one-to-one stuff in real time.

But the little group you mention (you, Bubs and the captain) would be a real treat. I'll bring the Merlot red. Grin

Or the whole bang shoot at a convention (there are so many others I'd be fascinated to meet, not least feelsflow and RR). That would be very cool as well.

As for this topic being moved to the Sandbox: of course----it's where it belongs. But DonnyL and c-man would never have posted in it if it hadn't started life where it did.  
4115  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The \ on: September 26, 2016, 01:49:16 PM


What a stupendous album. And what a way to end it!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nhhZdune_5Q
4116  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Old Record Parade on: September 26, 2016, 01:45:52 PM
Bought this at the tail end of '65 and proceeded to play it to death:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R-Tfm70dL5s

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Going_to_a_Go-Go_(song)
4117  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: person on this board would you most like to meet for a day on: September 26, 2016, 10:18:19 AM
None of the Big Names. Being by nature hopelessly shy and retiring (in more ways than one) I would not know how to cope with them----unless they were paying, of course.

I hope one of the ladies picks me (in your dreams, john k) but right now I would like to spend a day with unreleased backgrounds. We could discuss music and drink beer. And then I could ask what on earth induced him to change his name, avatar and signature to please delete my account. LOL         
4118  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Scandinavian music thread on: September 26, 2016, 06:14:48 AM
John, do you know Bo Hansson? Will all respect for Mike (not Love this time!), I think of him as a better Mike Oldfield.

No I don't. Thanks for the tip. I'll check him out later...
4119  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs you are obsessing over. on: September 26, 2016, 06:13:46 AM
Every song on Ezra Furman's Perpetual Motion People album.

I've got it linked for future listening. Always pleased to broaden my musical horizons. ;=)

I did a little horizon broadening myself and listened to your cantata. Very powerful.

Yes, Mr P could deliver. (The conductor Valery Gergiev rates him the number one 20th-century composer.)

I suppose he's like Tchaikowsky in some ways----he could write a luminous ballet like Cinderella (which my daughter danced in many years ago) and something as grim (but ultimately uplifting) as Alexander Nevsky... 
John, I think you mean Prokofiev. However, what you said holds even better for Tchaikowsky, who composed an even more luminous ballet like "The Sleeping Beauty", and also the sublime but harrowing Sixth Symphony.

I wasn't expressing myself properly (happens often). I meant that Prokofiev was a lot like old Tch.. Thanks for pulling me up on that. :=)
4120  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Pet Peeves on: September 26, 2016, 03:38:39 AM
I suppose the thing that irks me most these days (on this forum) is the tiresome business of "please delete my account". (One ex-poster has even called himself "please delete my account"!) Just leave if you must, for goodness' sake----why make a circus act out of it? It's only the internet, after all.


4121  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: New Songs - Gonna Do It Right and Something New on: September 25, 2016, 02:02:45 PM
I'm a novice to Soundcloud so forgive me if I am screwing this all up or if nothing comes up. But here are a few new songs. Please let me know your thoughts when you get a chance:

https://soundcloud.com/user-877915657/sets/gonna-do-it-right-single

It's gone. Is the page under construction?
4122  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Out of Curiosity... on: September 25, 2016, 02:00:07 PM
I try my best to comment, but rarely feel I have any good advice Tongue

A great default comment, if you can't think of anything else to say, is "Keep up the good work!" It's more constructive than nothing at all...
4123  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Old Record Parade on: September 25, 2016, 09:02:07 AM
Bought Mitch Ryder and The Detroit Wheels' "Jenny Take A Ride"
in 1965 when it was released as a 45. It still kicks @ss today:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P6s60SForJM
4124  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Out of Curiosity... on: September 24, 2016, 12:18:49 PM
I can dig what you're saying, Eol.

I sincerely hope that I comment on any track I listen to. And if I don't like it enough, it's gratifying to find something else by that artist/poster that I do like and comments positively on that instead.

I think it's easy to underestimate all the hard work that goes into each and every one of these recordings----on all levels.

Good call, sir.
4125  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Time Sensititve -- Fires around Big Sur on: September 24, 2016, 12:07:53 PM
Thoughts and most certainly concern for the wellbeing of Alan's and other homes in the area. Out-of-control fire is a fearsome thing. I only hope he can keep his thoughts on the music he's performing although goodness knows it must be hard for him. Thank you for the update, sir.
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