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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy and myth?
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on: June 18, 2015, 03:31:53 PM
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Murry not liking God Only Knows is ridiculous as well. In 1966 it was more lifestyle than music that split him and Brian. If you get ahold of the few interviews he gave with Rolling Stone or NME the guy LOVED Pet Sounds and Good Vibrations. He hurt Brian many times, but he respected when the Beach Boys matured musically.
Just heard Oren Moverman comment on the scene in the recent NPR interview. He said that he had heard numerous stories where Brian would play songs for Murry only to be met with fierce disapproval. Seems like one of those things where, if it weren't true, they would have been weeded out by Brian or Melinda.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Love and Mercy and myth?
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on: June 17, 2015, 04:38:33 PM
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Usually I shut down as soon as i see something that veers into the "wrong" category. But all the important notes were played with a virtuosity that left me truly touched and incredibly satisfied. I am completely blown away that this film found release in this form. Why? Because unlike so many things related to the Beach Boys, it is not shallow, it is not predictable, it is not embarrassing, it is not shoddy, it is not constipated, it is not creatively inept, and it is not dumbed down. Instead this is a raw, edgy, dark, but beautiful and hopeful portrayal of a particularly sensitive vein of their story. We are so very lucky that the right combination of people were allowed to create this film. It could have been awful. Instead it is as deeply moving as the music. Finally...a good thing has hit the mainstream, a deep thing has found an audience. Finally something tasteful and intelligent regarding the Beach Boys is out there.
Well said!
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on: June 15, 2015, 02:50:31 PM
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Lyle Ritz says that the bassline in WIBN was in a different key.
The movie never states that McCartney attended any session.
It was the notes of those basslines that McCartney was enamored with, not the bassplaying.
I can believe that Brian hardly mentioned the Beatles but not that he didn't see them as competition, along with other groups of the day.
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on: June 11, 2015, 06:42:12 PM
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Just remembered a line spoken by Max Schneider's VDP: "I have been writing lyrics professionally since I was 14 years old."
This is totally false, isn't it? VDP hadn't written a song until he was 21, much less lyrics before he was enlisted for Smile. Even the words for his first single, "Come to the Sunshine" and "Farther Along", came from an uncredited Danny Hutton.
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on: June 10, 2015, 10:43:47 AM
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I would have changed seats.
Probably would have done less good. The theater we went to served alcohol and one person had to shush us at one point. Sorry about that. The film was just so good.
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on: June 09, 2015, 11:22:13 PM
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There is no issue except, as I already said, it makes for a worse film. I don't think it could have been told any other way though. Banks kind of represents the audience's perspective. Maybe she was a miscast. Her moments were the only times I felt a drag; I remember the friend I went with kept nudging me to say 'I wish they'd go back to '60s Brian.' Everything else was perfect.
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on: June 09, 2015, 09:44:43 PM
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Who says Brian can offer very little info from his point of view ? From recent interviews it seems Melinda has retained much more info about the Landy years than BW is willing to discuss. Melinda is also responsible for just about everything in the '80s portions according to Pohlad and Moverman.
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on: June 09, 2015, 08:58:51 PM
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I agree that Landy was not portrayed as menacingly as others have said he was. He just comes across as a buffoon. And the '80s scenes were clearly told from Melinda's point of view because Brian could offer very little from his -- not conducive to the film when its least interesting moments fall upon Banks. Thankfully she only has about one or two scenes devoted to her alone.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re:
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on: June 08, 2015, 12:24:07 PM
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My thought is that the writers were considering people who aren't die-hard fans. It's more likely that people NOT like us would have heard "Heroes And Villains" (you'd be surprised) and not "Cabinessence." It could have just been that but I doubt it. The script was too smart for it to be that simple. I really think Moverman was just trying to paint something less predictable for people like us. The fact that so many people here were surprised by this decision -- which some have called a historical inaccuracy, but really isn't -- proves that he did his job exceptionally well.
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on: June 07, 2015, 09:10:26 PM
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I do find myself remaining curious as to why the script had Mike confronting Parks about the lyrics to Heroes and Villains, when it's well known among Beach Boys' Cognoscenti
Congrats, that may perhaps be the reason. It is a well known factoid. However, a lesser-acknowledged factoid is that Mike confronted Van Dyke on more than one occasion, and at a different time, it was documented that he was not a fan of the 'sunny down snuff' line. They simply chose to combine those two small historical nuggets together to make something that was an even heavier nod to the hardcore fans who did their research, rather than hitting a note that even neophytes would have expected would have been hit. By the way, there is not nearly enough talk about the potential discovery of a certain holy grail of 49-years-lost tape stems that inexplicably found its way into this film...
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