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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Source of Paley sessions quote? (\ on: February 10, 2016, 07:49:13 PM
Really good catch...
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Source of Paley sessions quote? ("very strange ... no mass appeal") on: February 10, 2016, 12:33:14 AM
From http://smileysmile.net/OLDlibrary/timeline.html, dated "July 1993"

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Andy: At least I know that many musicians like us. My mother told me that she had seen chris Robinson from the Black Crowes on MTV and when he was asked with which band he'd want to go on tour with he inititally named us. We have Also written two songs with brian wilson shortly after the Ringo Starr album. Don Was - the producer of Ringos LP - had introduces us.

Mag: Could you explain that? It has been said that Brian Wilson has an LP finished which hasn't been released because the songs were too extreme?!

Andy: That's not so astonishing. Brian has gone through a lot in his life. When he writes songs he does it in order to deal with his life. The unreleased songs indeed were very strange and had absolutely no mass appeal. The only person that could relate to them was Brian Wilson himself. Sometimes he reminds me of a huge computer with a very small output. When we were in the studio with him he had outragous ideas but when it came to executing them it became extremely difficult to communicate with him. That is his biggest problem because musically he still is the same genius that recorded "pet sounds". We really witnessed that at one moment he jumped up and down enthusiastically and the next moment he wanted to go to bed. In opposition to most other guys who were around him and never dared to contradict him, we kept on pushing him. I like his music too much to let him produce something which is not really great. After the separation from his psychatrist Eugene Landy and his record company it's a complete new beginning for him into Brian Wilson nowadays.

Anyone have an idea where this excerpt was taken?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / New October 1991 television footage, Brian promoting autobio on: February 09, 2016, 08:01:40 PM
Saw this posted 2 days ago, never seen it before

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3a8aZvt73Q
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's temple blocks: which notes? on: February 08, 2016, 12:00:34 PM
We're specifically talking about the non-tambourine percussion on "That's Not Me".

My point is that the tambourine is the key ingredient that makes it sound like 'horse clops'. The non-tambourine percussion is probably something as simple and makeshift as 2 drum sticks hitting each other. I don't think temple blocks.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's temple blocks: which notes? on: February 07, 2016, 07:43:50 AM
That's Not Me percussion = tambourines hit at the same time as some other object (could be anything, side of a drum kit, temple block struck a certain way, etc.)

I Do percussion is also simply a tambourine layered under/over hand claps.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: February 04, 2016, 09:52:26 AM
Rocky,
 
This may not be the correct timing as far as Beach Boys history goes, but did you ever meet or have contact with Mr. Darro....?
Smiley No, I have no idea who he is, this Mr. Darro.  Was he on this site at one time? I recall a reference to "someone" the members of this blog "RAN OFF." Of which they seem to be quite "PROUD."  Such an admirable thing to do and be "PROUD" of... lol Smiley Smiley

Most of what there is to know about Darro is here: http://www.collapseboard.com/everett-true/odd-comment-left-on-brian-wilson-blog-entry/

It would be interesting if you could corroborate or deny any of his claims
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Surf's Up 'demo' with strings on: February 04, 2016, 09:44:37 AM
Mediafire, puush, sendspace...
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Don Was - what happened? on: January 31, 2016, 10:05:06 AM
Also, to me anyway, "Smile" vs. "Love You/Adult Child" vs. the "Cocaine" tape vs. the Paley sessions are four very different things, so I can't see any Brian project where his "artistic side" is being pushed as being evocative of any or *all* of those other projects.

For Smile, Van Dyke Parks encouraged Brian Wilson to make music that didn't sound like Top 40, and prioritized substance over commerce.
For Love You, Earle Mankey encouraged Brian Wilson to make music that didn't sound like Top 40, and prioritized substance over commerce.
For the Cocaine sessions, Dennis Wilson encouraged Brian Wilson to make music that didn't sound like Top 40, and prioritized substance over commerce.
For the Paley sessions, Andy Paley encouraged Brian Wilson to make music that didn't sound like Top 40, and prioritized substance over commerce.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian and Don Was - what happened? on: January 28, 2016, 02:42:37 PM
I still wonder how Brian would sound  working with someone pushing his artistic side a bit more.

They sound like Smile, Love You, Adult Child, the Cocaine sessions, and the Paley sessions.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE - Re-assembled on: January 28, 2016, 02:34:51 PM

Is this personnel list copied straight from the liner notes? Dennis is not credited for Hammond organ and all the Beach Boys played a guiro at one point?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 26, 2016, 09:09:36 AM
there's *loads* of SMiLE-era stuff we know about which fits the one description Brian EVER gave of Air as 'a piano piece, an instrumental, no vocals'. Just because the Wind Chimes tag happens to fit that description, really doesn't mean that must be Air.

Off the top of my head, the instrumental piano pieces on Smile amount to the endings of "Do You Like Worms", "Holidays", and "Wind Chimes". Is Brian referring to something that was never recorded? He could be. Meanwhile, we have a song called "Wind Chimes" just laying around. How likely do you think it is that -- if and when Brian ever finishes Smile -- he'll use it for "Air"? I guess we'll never know for sure. Personally, on my Smile fan mix that I've been meticulously crafting for the last 35 years, I have "Air" set as "Little Deuce Coupe".
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 26, 2016, 05:14:34 AM
So to say: "Brian says Air was a piano piece, so what have we got on TSS that is a piano piece… it must be one of those... ah yes, the Wind Chimes tag!!!" is too simplistic, I think.

Jesus, man. This is Brian Wilson, not Franz Kafka.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Greatest American Rock Band of All Time? on: January 23, 2016, 12:53:41 AM
Erm, what about The Miracles or The Temptations or The Four Tops or The Supremes?
Rock bands?
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: January 18, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
It's possible that Brian called Wind Chimes a piano piece because of its tag. Which is all pianos. Makes sense to me.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 16, 2016, 08:39:43 AM
Ron already has someone writing the "SCREEN PLAY" for "WIPEOUT"! Need I remind you Ron is a Feature Film Producer? No Worry's brah!  Smiley

Do we really need another biopic?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: January 07, 2016, 10:18:50 AM
If you have to evade a question like 'What are the reasons that you are writing this book?', then you probably don't have much hope of getting published.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: December 31, 2015, 10:26:44 PM
     To the first responders, (so to speak) Sweetdude Jim, Doo Dah, C-man, Puni Puni, Cam Mott, Smilin Ed H, and of course Emily I would very much like to thank all of you for taking the time to come on the board! Your imput is sincerely welcome... and  very interesting. Alot of which I was not aware of ... for I am by no means an expert on the Beach Boys ...

Hm, does that mean you have no memory of an album called Adult/Child? This link has most of the information known about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adult/Child
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: December 30, 2015, 11:19:00 PM
That was the making of " Still I Dream of It "... he wrote it in his head while pacing around. Who knows how long it took him to write it... the first song to come out of Brian in YEARS!!!

Thanks for the story, Rocky. FYI the recordings of "Still I Dream of It" and "It's Over Now", including Brian's demo, were released on a compilation set back in the '90s, and they are good songs. But it was written during or after sessions for The Beach Boys Love You, wasn't it? So it couldn't have been 'the first song to come out of Brian in years'.

Is there anything you remember about the follow-up album Adult/Child? Such as how Brian felt about it, and why it was never released?
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Endless Summer Quarterly feedback on: December 26, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
Why no cheaper, digital alternatives?
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carol Kaye's BS on: December 26, 2015, 08:39:48 PM
Yes, that they were sometimes written incorrectly
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: December 23, 2015, 04:18:28 PM
Daniel Johnston isn't a household name, but he is widely considered a genius in his own right. He's often compared to Brian Wilson because they both have mental illness and an idiosyncratic, self-taught style of songwriting. Daniel got his fame as an 'outsider artist' by recording cassettes of himself singing original songs he wrote on his piano and organ, then acting as his own promoter, sharing his tapes with as many people as he could. Later, he worked with more professional musicians, while others recorded his songs. He has no hits, but some of his songs have since been used in films and commercials.

I think if Daniel can record critically-acclaimed albums while in a mental hospital, with nothing but a cassette recorder and a guitar, then it's hard to imagine Brian couldn't have achieved something similar at that time. Especially after hearing bootlegs from the late 1970s where he is alone singing on piano.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Christmas gift to smiley-smilers on: December 23, 2015, 03:24:20 PM
You could also upload each track individually as a YouTube video and make a playlist from it.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys? on: December 22, 2015, 12:54:14 PM
No artist, yet, has recorded music while being committed... that I know of?

Daniel Johnston is a famous example
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2jU0Rzq9kQ
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: OK Everybody, Sing on: December 21, 2015, 12:16:18 PM
Thanks for the help
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1965 archives on: December 18, 2015, 11:11:05 AM
It's the last Friday before Christmas so I don't think it's happening after all. Maybe next year will be a reissue of the Pet Sounds Sessions... with an extra disc?
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