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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: August 03, 2011, 07:49:54 AM
October 4, the faithful will be rewarded!
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Looks like it was premature afterall: SMiLE Sessions canceled! on: June 21, 2011, 07:13:45 AM
Perspective, people.  I have been obsessed with this stuff since 1975. 
Back then: never thought it would come out. 

1982-3: first boots began coming out. 
1987: Dennis Diken of the SMithereens tells me Brian is listening to the tapes, and there are rumors of an imminent release.
About the same time the great Japanese boot CD came out.

Nineties: Don Was enters, becomes bitten by the SMiLE bug, rumors of a release.
1996-7: in connection with the Pet Sounds Box (on which I have a credit), Capitol announces a CD of GV sessions and a SMiLE release (both nixed)

A year or two later SOT floodgates open: now we are in possession of massive amounts of material, though still missing key elements.

More dribbles of booted material since then.

2011 March: Al announces the release.  I check my sources, and the two most trusted both confirm it it is happening "this year."

Release date has been pushed back at least twice, frustrating, maddening even, but folks it has never gotten this far, this close, ever before (to my knowledge).

Everyone just needs a few cold showers,

Bruce Louden
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wind Chimes. SMiLE or Smiley? on: June 17, 2011, 10:31:06 AM
The music to the coda seems to come from "Holidays" which is why the BWPS transition from "On A Holiday" to "Wind Chimes" works so well. Could this have been a similar situation to "Look" where a theme from an abandoned track was salvaged as a vocal riff for another song ("Good Vibrations" being the track that borrowed from "Look")? In that case, it could have been something recycled early on as part of SMiLE or later as part of SMILEY SMILE. I don't know.

The beautiful vocals at the end of the SS WC are definitely the same chord progression as the coda to Holiday, as Roger notes.

To me SS remains vastly under-rated by most.
On some board, years ago, I suggested that the SMiLE sessions - as we already have them - are far more finished on the music/instrumental side.
Whereas SS has essentially completed vocals, with pariticpation by the whole group, but minimized music/instrumentation.

"SMiLE" would then represent a combination of the two approaches: SS-type vcls, SMiLE music backing tracks.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 16, 2011, 02:24:11 PM
I think he was flooded with questions similar to mine above and, if memory serves, he was quite bewildered by it all. He may not have said "you guys need to get out more" but it was implied in his responses!

Not surprised.  When I knew him he was somewhat private, but quite energetic on certain topics.  Maybe he'll be moved to speak out when the SS comes out.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 16, 2011, 05:37:36 AM
Maybe you could just ask him about it?


Wish I could.  Anyone have any contact info on MV?  I've had no contact with him for eons.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 15, 2011, 03:07:56 PM
Thanks for sharing!

Wow, I'd be bugging the hell out of him, repeatedly playing different takes of Windchimes and asking if it's the one he was referring to in the Fusion article. Sounds like he had a lucky escape with you!

I think that video system is referred to somewhere - maybe the How Deep Is The Ocean book? Anybody?


Buddahat - At that time there were no other versions of Wind CHimes out.  The first batch of SMiLE boots had: Do You Like Worms, 2 takes of Fire, Can't Wait TOo Long, You Are My SUnshine (w/o vcl), a segment of H & V, the xylophone/clarinet instrumental, and the tracking session for the 1st part of Surf's Up.  About '86 the marimba Smile version of WC made it's way forth.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 15, 2011, 08:00:25 AM
Whoah cool! What was his reaction?

and greetings Bruce Louden!

He (Vosse) recognized each piece instantly, was most moved by Mrs O'Leary's Cow - but didn't add any earth-shattering revelations or anything.
He also related a few stories I haven't seen anywhere else. 

He said BW had an early video system of some sort
- and that during the SMiLE era he would do imitations of Johnny Carson which he replayed on his tv.

I only knew Vosse @ 1978-83, and one chance meeting about 1990, before I moved out of the Bay Area.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 15, 2011, 06:59:17 AM
Thanks for the rough confirmation.  I don't know anything about the FF, just enjoy that album quite a bit.

Tiny bit more background - since I am new to all/most of you.
I've had the SMiLE bug since about 1975, when I first heard Smiley SMile in a dorm at UC Santa Cruz, under certain psychotropic circumstances typical of that time and place -
and it blew me away - Vegetables esp, on a 1st listening, then H & V and the trance-inducing Woody Woodpecker Symphony.
 My friend who introduced me to that unique platter,
then directed me to the great article in Rolling Stone from a few yrs earlier
(can't remember that author's name). 

In 1978 I was working in Stacey's Books in SF, where the buyer was a fellow named Mike Vosse.

Fortunate to have met someone so close to the action, in 1982 or 3 I played for him the reel-to reel tape of the 1st SMiLE bootleg.

Looking for some closure on this obsession!
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / SMiLE allusion in Fleet Foxes? on: June 15, 2011, 06:38:05 AM
Hello People - Let me introduce myself, Bruce Louden - I just registered with this site recently (though I used to post on it occasionally some years ago).

The Fleet Floxes song "Quiet Houses," at about 2:30, has a brief section which to me, at least, strongly suggests a SMiLE vibe in general,
but parts of the version of Wind Chimes with the electric keyboard in specific, as in Sea of Tunes 17, track 3 (=take 5).
The song is a few yrs old, and thus would only allude to SMiLE in general, not any current release.

Was wondering if anyone else had noticed, or what they thought (apologies if this issue has already been discussed).

Sincerely, Bruce

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