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351  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dumb Angel board struck by hacker too? on: January 14, 2006, 09:35:39 PM
Dumb Angel is essentially a site that sells a product, and thus isn't really suited for an exclusive message board, or sustained conversation. A place like this (Smiley) is much more condusive to general discussion . . . on topics that are related to Dumb Angel, and what it's all about.

In place of the message board, they now have a Blog (linked from the main site), where Domenic will be writing various entries describing the events they're doing to promote the magazine . . . Art & Music related events . . . plus other entries planned.

The first post is already up, where Dom describes the recent event at Mollusk in San Francisco. Frank Holmes was there, and his art was on display as part of the program.

Dumb Angel Blog:
http://dumbangelmag.blogspot.com/

M.

352  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Drummers on: January 13, 2006, 08:09:15 PM
The best rock drummer is Jerry Allison of the Crickets.

The Crickets were amazing . . . Jerry Allison hammered a few cardboard boxes for "Not Fade Away" . . . Dig that.

Hal Blaine is on everyone's list automatically. He goes without saying. Earl Palmer, too.

Hal is wide open on Jan Berry's productions . . . but not so on Brian Wilson's.

Jan and Brian are a case study as producers . . . Different styles . . . different sounds . . . while using a lot of the same musicians.

M.


353  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Drummers on: January 13, 2006, 09:46:19 AM
Too many faves to list . . . and certainly too many good drummers to list . . . But the following are all standouts:

Neal Peart (hard to top)

Stuart Copeland (fantastic drummer / also scores films)

Alex Van Halen (amazing in concert)

Gene Krupa (one of the early legends)

Omar Hakim (jazz / funk)

Keith Moon (the man)

Jon Bonham (technical, a precursor to Neal Peart)

Bill Bruford (Yes)


You wanna hear a hot new drummer? Check out the Rocking Scoundrels . . . Scroll down to the Jukebox and listen to "Sparks" . . . Darren Edwards is a chip off the old Moon.

I'm into percussion in general . . . and rudimental / corps-style drumming is one of the coolest percussive art forms on the planet. Here's a piece I wrote in that style: Tremor in the Force.

M.

354  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The New Wave Appreciation Thread on: January 09, 2006, 05:50:58 PM
The Producers (from Atlanta) straddled the New Wave / Power Pop line . . . Great stuff, and their first album in 1981 was dedicated to John Lennon.

No skinny ties . . . but the band's attire on that first album was more a look ahead to Miami Vice (in pastels).

M.

355  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jan & Dean's "Carnival of Sound" on: January 08, 2006, 08:37:42 PM
Mark --

Over the holiday I snagged a sealed copy of Command Performance/Batman CD at a record shop for $25. Good price? What do you think of the quality of the music/sound/mastering? Also, per Ian's recommend, I got a copy of the Pop Symphony twofer also on One Way Records (much cheaper, $8 on eBay) that should be in soon. After all of the J&D talk, I decided to sample some for myself. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

Jeff,

For the most part, I like the One Way re-issues . . . They're pretty good renderings of the original stereo versions.

COMMAND PERFORMANCE was "live" (finished in the studio). Most of the vocals are thin (unlike the studio versions), but you get a bit of the J&D humor onstage (especially in "Dead Man's Curve"). The cover of "Louie, Louie" kicks butt . . . with a radical vocal by Dean, great two-part harmony, and a solid brass arrangement by Jan.

The announcer is Roger Christian . . . and J&D take the stage to Jan's arrangement of "The Brave Bull."
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JAN & DEAN MEET BATMAN is a cult classic. Over-the-top comedy, with intricate sketches . . . descended from Stan Freberg and Dickie Goodman, but a precursor of the Firesign Theatre, Richard Pryor, and Lilly Tomlin, etc. The comedy sketches involved "Captain Jan, and Dean the Boy Blunder" . . . while the musical numbers referenced the Batman and Robin characters.

The instrumentals on this album are very strong . . . including Neal Hefti's "Batman Theme". And "Mr. Freeze" has a"spy" feel to it, with a brass arrangement that really matches the motifs from the 1966 TV show.

"Robin the Boy Wonder" is solid . . . and "Flight of the Batmobile" sounds like something out of a musical stage production.

Basically, Jan & Dean savage the TV show . . . even copping the use of alliteration.

But the most ingenious thing about this album is the series of "Bat Cues" and backing music themes that play between and under the spoken comedy sketches. I have the original music scores for these (arranged by Jan Berry and George Tipton) . . . and it's really intricate stuff, with a very exotic, moody, and Gothic feel to it. A hell of a lot of amazing work to be mostly buried in the sketches.

The "Batman" single and "Anaheim, Azusa ..." (the latter from the Little Old Lady LP) feature Jan's most complex vocal arrangements. For a musical breakdown of these two pieces, read my analytical essay Jan Berry 101: A Study in Composition, with Bach, Old Ladies, and Bats (ESQ version in PDF).

The narrator on the Batman LP is Roger Christian.
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POP SYMPHONY is a masterpiece. This was Jan's pet project of 1965 (arranged by Jan and George Tipton) . . . and it goes beyond a mere "strings" album. "Little Old Lady" and "Drag City" are full-blown works for symphony orchestra . . . and the latter features some fantastic concert snare drum work from Hal Blaine. If you didn't know the names of these two songs, you would not recognize them in their symphonic incarnations.

The two-part mandolin leads on "New Girl In School" are smile-inducing.

Jan had previously started to incorporate orchestral / symphonic elements into his 1964 productions "Anaheim, Azusa ..." and "When It's Over." In 1965, he also used orchestral arrangements for "You Really Know How to Hurt A Guy" and "It's A Shame to Say Goodbye" (aside from the Pop Symphony versions).
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DRAG CITY is the first important Jan & Dean album in terms of very strong original album cuts (aside from the singles). Stellar album cuts here include: "Drag Strip Girl," "Surfin' Hearse," "Popsicle Truck," "Surf Route 101," and "Hot Stocker."

The original version of "Dead Man's Curve" on this LP is sub-standard (a rush job), and is not the hit single version. Jan's lead vocal is bad, and it lacks the incredible 11-part brass and woodwind arrangement that Jan wrote for the hit-single version in 1964.
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Full Track Lists & Credits for These Albums:

Command Performance

Jan & Dean Meet Batman

Pop Symphony No.1

Drag City

M.

356  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jan & Dean's "Carnival of Sound" on: January 08, 2006, 06:46:14 PM
Mark,

I've been listening to Carnival of Sound quite alot lately and have also been enjoying a few cuts from the collection, All the Hits. Songs in particular that have have caught my ear were, "You Really Know How To Hurt A Guy" and "I Can't Wait To Love You". Any particular album I should look into for more songs like this?


Heroes,

You'll want to check out Jan & Dean's Folk 'n Roll LP from 1965. Here's a link to the complete track list:

Folk 'n Roll Track List and Credits

M.

357  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The New Wave Appreciation Thread on: January 07, 2006, 10:36:28 PM
Well, yeah, but the Velvet Underground as an influence on punk or calling them "punk" in the sense that the Stooges or Suicide were "punk" -- I don't have any problem with that. But "New Wave" was never a positive label in the sense that "punk" was. That's my point.

Well, speaking of Punk . . .

The roots of Punk can be traced to Jan & Dean . . . Check out these references, excerpts from an essay written 35 years ago, as Dave Marsh explains the Bonzo Dog Band, Iggy Stooge, Alice Cooper, and Frank Zappa as an extension of Jan & Dean's public persona in the early and mid-'60s.

The analysis is one-sided (not focusing on the music itself) . . . but it's a very important statement . . . especially since it was written so soon (relatively) after Jan & Dean's heyday.

Jan & Dean: The Original Punks

M.

358  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album on: January 07, 2006, 10:43:30 AM
Mulholland = Groovy track.

Yeah, "Mulholland" rocks. We're excited about the selection of Carnival-era tracks that will be on our tribute album . . . with a few surprises.

M.
359  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Message Board Updated on: January 04, 2006, 11:12:22 AM
Right on . . . great place to start.

M.

360  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Message Board Updated on: January 04, 2006, 10:35:30 AM
We've updated the "Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Central" forum . . . with a new look and expanded topics (as a part of Jan Berry's official Website).

We've seen from the recent "Carnival of Sound" topic, and the Carol Kaye debacle . . . here at Smiley . . . that J&D can sustain some amazing threads.

If you're so inclined . . . stop by, join the board, and add to the discussion.

Check out the detailed Singles and Albums listings . . . and don't miss the Dave Marsh excerpts from 1971 . . . (Ian will dig the Zappa references).

Of course, we can still have these discussions here, as well.

Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Central Forum

M.



361  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album on: January 02, 2006, 12:50:03 PM
Jeroen,

Can't say for sure. We're hoping for Spring '06, but it could be later.

M.

362  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Artwork Submissions: Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album on: December 29, 2005, 04:03:44 PM
For those who may be interested . . .

Here's an idea that Gertie Berry (Jan's widow) first proposed when I was in Los Angeles for Jan's memorial bash . . . and we're going to explore it.

We'll have a contest . . . and the best original artwork submitted, in tribute to Jan Berry and Jan & Dean, will be featured somewhere in the packaging of our forthcoming tribute album.

We're of course still counting on Dean Torrence to design the front cover for us . . .

Things to consider . . .

  • This artwork contest is open to both professional and amateur artists, and fans

  • Submissions must be original works of art, with no copyright infringement on any existing work of others

  • There will be no payment involved, but the winning submission will be credited to the winning artist, with copyright statement, artist's Website, etc.
  • Artwork must be designed in black and white (grayscale) to fit on a standard-size page for CD insert.
  • The winning submission has to be extremely cool, creative, and professional-looking. Our packaging will be top notch.
  • We reserve the right not to use any of the submissions if we don't think they're right for the project.

This is your chance to make a lasting visual contribution in honor of Jan Berry and Jan & Dean.

Design samples (for viewing) should be sent in JPG format to: info [at] jananddean-janberry.com.

We'll also have another big surprise in our packaging . . . which we'll announce at a later date . . . closer to the release of the album.

M.
363  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Remembering Dennis Wilson (1944-1983) on: December 28, 2005, 03:32:07 PM
How's this for a groovy picture of Dennis? . . . The caption says "Denny's Drums, circa 1964 . . . how Picasso is that?" . . . From Dumb Angel #4: All Summer Long.

Yeah, I'd say we remember . . .



M.

364  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Remembering Dennis Wilson (1944-1983) on: December 28, 2005, 10:56:25 AM
I remember it well . . .

I saw the Beach Boys perform in 1982 . . . and the only two guys missing were Brian and Dennis . . . for obvious reasons. A few months later, Dennis was dead. I was in high school at the time, and it hit me pretty hard. By then, I was well into my interest in the Beach Boys and Jan & Dean. I had just seen J&D perform the year before.

M.

365  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album on: December 27, 2005, 08:51:07 AM
Here's something else to help generate further interest in our forthcoming Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album.

Our entire album has been mapped out ahead of time . . . note for note . . . based on Jan Berry's original music scores from the '60s. The following mp3 file represents a rough midi model (a mock-up, if you will) of "Mulholland" . . . a track from Carnival of Sound . . . that will appear on our tribute album.

The idea is to give listeners a better idea of some of the things that are happening on these tracks . . . nuances that are not fully apparent from listening to the original acetates and bootlegs (which are of poor quality).

As it stands right now, our album will feature at least five tracks from Carnival of Sound.

In this mock-up, the lead and backing vocals are rendered on organ, to simulate the vocal sustains. (Again, please understand that this is simply a model . . . and is not the actual track that will appear on our album).

This is Psychedelic Jazz . . .

MULHOLLAND 1968 (mp3) (Rough Midi Demo Only)
(Jan Berry - Roger Christian)

Jan Berry's Original Music Score Transcribed and Adapted by Mark A. Moore

All rights reserved.

M.
366  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Jan & Dean's "Carnival of Sound" on: December 26, 2005, 08:27:54 AM
JRauch,

I'm sure someone else can post some mp3 files of the originals . . . but I thought I'd take the opportunity to help generate further interest in our forthcoming Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album.

Our entire album has been mapped out ahead of time . . . note for note . . . based on Jan Berry's original music scores from the '60s. The following mp3 file represents a rough midi model (a mock-up, if you will) of "Mulholland" . . . a track from Carnival of Sound . . . that will appear on our tribute album.

The idea is to give listeners a better idea of some of the things that are happening on these tracks . . . nuances that are not fully apparent from listening to the original acetates and bootlegs (which are of poor quality).

As it stands right now, our album will feature at least five tracks from Carnival of Sound.

In this mock-up, the lead and backing vocals are rendered on organ, to simulate the vocal sustains. (Please understand that this is simply a model . . . and is not the actual track that will appear on our album).

This is Psychedelic Jazz . . .

MULHOLLAND 1968 (mp3) (Rough Midi Demo Only)
(Jan Berry - Roger Christian)

Jan Berry's Original Music Score Transcribed and Adapted by Mark A. Moore

All rights reserved.

M.



367  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Carol Kaye - "Ive Been Banned" on: December 25, 2005, 06:08:07 AM
This is another important thread from the old board that needs to remain visible . . .

Original Discussion:
http://comiclist.com/smileysmile/viewtopic.php?t=11292

368  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Jan & Dean's "Carnival of Sound" on: December 25, 2005, 06:05:33 AM
This thread should continue from the old board . . .

Original Discussion:
http://comiclist.com/smileysmile/viewtopic.php?t=10681

369  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Exotic Percussion on: December 24, 2005, 11:29:00 AM
That's The Way It Is (BERRY - SUMNER - WOLFSON)
Jan Berry solo release, 1977 arranged for percussion ensemble by Mark A. Moore (2002). Demo version only. (mp3)

Tremor in the Force (mp3)
Written and arranged for advanced marching percussion, by Mark A. Moore, 2002. All rights reserved.

M.




370  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album on: December 24, 2005, 11:18:23 AM
Here's a link to an mp3 of the rough (incomplete) instrumental track for "Anahem, Azusa ...", which will appear on our forthcoming Jan Berry / Jan & Dean Tribute Album.

Anaheim, Azusa (rough premix track)

M.
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