Speaking of publicity, am I wrong or is there less hype about "Sail on Sailor" than for "Feel flows"? I seem to remember that the latter got more press but maybe I'm misremembering or my impression was totally wrong.

we also had 171 pages discussing Feel Flows, and the topic is still pinned at the top for some reason. we're up to 10 pages for SOS.

what gives?

I haven't listened to SOS yet as it's under my tree for Sunday so I am sure there may be a handful of people not chiming in who don't have the box yet (or were waiting on purpose).

Wow, I almost missed them announcing a multi-disc set for Carl and The Passions-So Tough and Holland coming out this year as well.  I am very curious to hear the new stereo mixes of I Get Around and Help Me Rhonda but I don't understand why The Little Girl I Once Knew is absent if they are using technology to turn mono mixes into stereo now.

Have wanted to hear this for awhile. Thanks!

Can anyone recommend a safe way to store these clips? I use to use iLivid but I have removed it due to a computer meltdown.

Just use google to find the original FLAC files - much nicer quality than ripping from youtube.

Edit - I'm an idiot and didn't realize how old this thread was. Just saw the Month/Date. Sorry!

If anyone actually has those FLAC files and would like to reshare...

I only have dinky 192 mp3 files of it...

That would be cool.

The 5CD box looks great, looking forward to getting it.  I noticed Back Home (1970) is not on here (and that's ok - we have it on Made In California) plus we do get other versions of it anyway.  I was hoping for a full a Capella version of Break Away.  Other than that - I am thrilled with the track list!  I knew something special had to be planned for Sunflower (and Surf's Up) when the 1969 copyright dump was 3 songs.

I personally think its baffling that capitol haven't even put out a press release to acknowledge the box sets existence. Thats usually done a good few months before hand to build up some excitement.  Then again it is Capitol records and they're not great at marketing or promotion

Seems pretty industry standard to me.  I can think of many releases that were only announced 8 weeks out.  You'd think with social media available they could create a buzz long before something is slated to come out.  Kind of like... oh I don't know - The Beatles Get Back? 

In other news King Crimson dropped the complete sessions for their Lizard album from 1970 this week.  They said they had to do it to renew the copyrights after 50 years.  They released a 26 CD mega box for their debut album and 1969 concerts recently, and dumped the entire sessions for their two 1970 albums.  Come on BB - your 1969-70 material is next.

Can I suggest to those marketing this boxset to actually come out and make an announcement. If it is left until next year it is likely to be swamped by this...The Beatles ‘Get Back’ movie and inevitable soundtrack.

Sneak peak released yesterday. It’s going to be BIG!

https://youtu.be/UocEGvQ10OE

Like an announcement now will matter if Feel Flows is coming out in say May.  I am sure they want to wait until the magazine covers and interviews are ready, as well as other promotional things going on at once.  You just want an announcement because you can't wait for news! And I wouldn't disagree with you - what harm can an announcement bring now?  But we already have had an announcement - Howie says it's coming out soon.  Yes, Get Back will be huge.  But what's the alternative - release it a year later?  What if they release Rubber Soul and Revolver boxsets (which are likely coming soon thereafter)?  The BB will be fine.

Based on a statement in the new esq it appears that there will be some kind of download only soon but the feel flows box will be next year (no announced date yet)

If the thing is basically done and completed, hopefully an official announcement and release date will come soon.  

A release date would have to leak out in the next few months prior to the official announcement.  I would think they are preparing interviews with different magazines and websites to promote the box which would mean we are looking around May or June for a release with the official press release a good 2-3 months prior to that.  All just personal guesses based on many prior releases.  This is too important of a release to not promote.  

"Speculation." My guess is December 16, based on the "November 16" date that was on that AllMusic site...probably meant December.

It must come out on a Friday, so that leaves either December 18 or December 25.

Agreed.  Something should drop next Friday just like in previous years, even if it's just a few tracks again.

I am sure it's a longshot, but I think it would be very cool to have Desper's book included with Feel Flows.

May or June 2021 makes sense.  If this box is all it's supposed to be, they will want to have a bit of a promotional push behind it like they did for The Smile Sessions.  That means magazine covers and interviews.  I wouldn't rule out a little 1970 copyright dump release next month like we got last year for perhaps a handful of box set leftovers.

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet. 

Feel Flows is expected to be 5 discs with a lot more material on it than this.  Sounds like the concert that will be included Al alluded to is from the Big Sur Folk Festival.

Don't worry Century Depraved, I am not a troll or trying to troll you.  I've been counting the years to 2020 to get Sunflower material but I am not despondent about it.  I have just as much of a right to post as anyone else.  HeyJude didn't have to reply to me but he did and his post was so contradicting it made me laugh and I couldn't help myself.  Post all you want about who you assume is holding it up, do your petitions as well.  I have been "worried" about releases by many of my favorite bands for decades and most of the time I could sound like many of you on this thread.  But I've gotten a little older and I don't see the point of worrying about it.  In fact, today I read something from a boutique label called Iconoclassic that was putting out remasters of The Guess Who in the last decade.  Apparently Sony Music pulled their license to release titles and the projects they had on deck including a box set are all canceled.  That means unless they can get a license from Universal ("who are reluctant to license"), that's the end of the line.  Cryptically Iconoclassic said "the days of 11.98/12.98 reissues are done. Many walls have been erected."  That is far more of a dead end than Feel Flows to me.   

On the other hand, a sudden decision could be made today for all we know and it will be released this fall.  I'm not going to worry about it.  It's all ready to go and I believe it will come out sooner or later.

If you're happy just sitting back and making the mind-blowing prediction that "something might happen some day, whatever", that's fine.

But this attitude would not be based on what's actually going on with this set.

What people in the know, including people who have worked on this set, are trying to say is that, *if you actually care about hearing this material*, then you absolutely SHOULD worry about it right now.

Obviously, this isn't a life-or-death situation. Nobody should have a panic attack over it or let it control their lives.

But within the scope of caring about the band and having this interest in our lives, this is something to get worked up about and worried about not happening if things don't change.

Look at what you more or less just wrote and how you come off as someone coming unglued...

It's fine to sit back and wait.. BUT YOU ABSOLUTELY SHOULD WORRY
But it isn't a life or death situation AND nobody should have a panic attack over it or or let it control their lives...
BUT THIS IS SOMETHING TO GET WORKED UP ABOUT AND WORRIED ABOUT NOT HAPPENING!

You have literally gone mad from this.  You are the one who is worried, you are having a panic attack, it's clearly controlling your life and yet you just told me not to be worried, not have a panic attack, not let it control my life.

I love message boards for threads like this and posts like yours.  I can tell you are trying to be calm Hey Jude, but in reality you are losing it.  It's funny to watch.  I feel for you.  But I also don't care.  It will come eventually.

This is the quote that made me think it may be cancelled:

I find it amazing reading through this thread that so many people have learned nothing about this band's fatal flaw...which historically is of course themselves. And definitely not all of them. Howie laid it all out for you in big flashing letters, but some people are still stumbling around, confused, wondering if it's Covid-19, or marketing, or the label that's holding this up. Jesus, c'mon people. Look at the f'n history of this band. Read Howie's posts because he knows everything. He can't name names because he's a professional with bridges intact and trying his best to keep them that way. This box could have been released months ago. It could have a solid release date right now. It's ready. We want it. The label wants it. But that can't happen because the circular firing squad is doing their thing ...again. It's often a one or two man circular firing squad BTW. People have written chapters in book's about it. Maybe this will get worked out, it doesn't look great right now. But if you wonder why? Look at the history of the band, the answer is obvious. Finding a way to f*** up a beautiful thing. It's in the DNA of the Beach Boys.

Jon specifically says here "maybe this will get worked out, it doesn't look good right now."

I don't think this can be spelled out any more explicitly. It's not looking good, it's not on the schedule. It hasn't been definitely canceled, otherwise nobody would be bothering to let fans know they need to advocate for it.

On the other hand, a sudden decision could be made today for all we know and it will be released this fall.  I'm not going to worry about it.  It's all ready to go and I believe it will come out sooner or later.

I'm honestly not worried.  It will come out eventually - even this year.  I'm not going to sit and speculate endlessly on the conspiracy behind it.  It could even come down to one measly track being pulled/kept.

This was shared online recently:

The problem that may cause upcoming major label CD,DVD & Blu-ray music boxed sets to be postponed into 2021 or 2022 or cancelled isn’t manufacturing the discs. Those discs were always pressed under “Clean Room” conditions. The workers always wore masks & gloves. The more serious issues are the fabricating and printing of the packaging elements that are typical of major label boxed sets (10″ x 10″ and 12″ x 12″ boxes and slipcases, hardback & paperback books, posters and memorabilia reproductions), the closing of many mastering facilities, and the millions of unemployed consumers who won’t be able to afford the products.
It is more than boxed sets of “The Beatles-Let It Be” and the earliest John Lennon & George Harrison solo albums that are at stake, but also the following projects that are known to be in development:
The Rolling Stones-Goats Head Soup
Queen-The Miracle
Genesis-The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway
The Who Sell Out
The Doors-Morrison Hotel
Marillion-Fugazi
Crosby Stills Nash & Young-Deja Vu
Bruce Springsteen-Tracks 2
Neil Young-Archives Vol.2(1972-1976)
The Beach Boys-5-disc set, tentatively titled “Feel Flows”
Cream-Wheels of Fire (+ additional concert recordings)
The Doobie Brothers-Quadio (Blu-ray audio box)
Bob Dylan-The Bootleg Series Vol.16
And, of course, future archival projects by Jimi Hendrix, The Kinks, Steve Miller Band and (astonishingly) the firsr-ever release of archival material by Joni Mitchell.
Not surprisingly, all the upcoming (late August) boxed sets from the Cherry Red group of labels feature small, simple packaging (mini album covers in a clamshell box). And large format boxes from Gonzo multimedia (America & Trevor Rabin) have been postponed. The issue is obviously printing and fabricating the packaging materials.

The Stones set is definitely coming out.  Here's another reason to take this with a big grain of salt.  The author of this info - Phil Cohen.

I know a guy about to publish a session book on The Guess Who which will be out this fall.  If there's interest in a book on those guys, you would think The Beach Boys would have just as much interest.  But I can understand the reluctance as well.

Who is publishing it?  Is he doing it himself?

He is using Friesen Press which is self-publishing.  They take care of the editing and distribution but the author has 100% control over content.  His name is Robert Lawson out of Toronto and he can be contacted anytime on Facebook.  The book will be called Wheatfield Empire: The Listener's Guide to The Guess Who with a September release date.

I know a guy about to publish a session book on The Guess Who which will be out this fall.  If there's interest in a book on those guys, you would think The Beach Boys would have just as much interest.  But I can understand the reluctance as well.

Lucky Beatles fans.  So, when's it our turn?  Who's got the tape for the Surf Up Part 2 instrumental track?

I think it's safe to say the BB fans got far more interesting releases (bootleg and official) over the years and will continue to do so and I say that as a die-hard Beatles fan.  What do Beatles fans hope to get now?  Carnival of Light?  An alternate take of various songs?  But I know you mean they are lucky they may have found a lost session master tape and the BB still have various tapes missing including the GV vocals.  Still it's only with Pete Best and while historically interesting - I'm not excited about it.  The Anthology tracks are enough for me.  Finding that early Love Me Do from June 1962 was definitely interesting.  Hearing Pete's approach in the bridge really let you hear the difference in his playing.  I want to hear the original slower Please Please Me session.

In case anyone won't watch Mark Linett's interview video as referenced in the relevant thread, he says that a "large project" is tentatively scheduled for "the fall."

Nice time for a release

yeah, maybe they're going to release it 'til early December

They'll be competing with the new Let It Be movie and box set plus there is always a slim chance of an All Things Must Pass 50th release (but totally a hopeful guess by me).  Going to be an interesting fall.

San Miguel is such a great track.  I am surprised it never made it onto Sunflower or Surf's Up.  My one gripe with it is that they don't repeat the catchy chorus/second verse. 

I'd go with The Beatles White Album over Friends without hesitation.  Friends is a great album, but The White Album is so much more.  I like everything on it.  I have even listened to Revolution 9 countless times over the years.  I'm sorry but it's not even close for me.

Great point rab.  They might want to do some decent promotion for this set - especially since Sunflower was named one of the top 500 albums ever and is not well known among the masses.  So they may be doing a similar thing they did with Smile Sessions - magazine and TV interviews, an advance single, record store promos, etc.  It makes sense if we are not getting a 1969 digital release and with what Al and Bruce have let slip.

As far as I'm concerned this silence and lack of a download release this year is all good news if you are like me and want all of this 1969-71 material in a physical box.

Unless I've missed something, there has been no official announcement of any new Beach Boys product, compilation or box set.  All we have to work with is Jardine's vague statement.  But if this potential release was going to focus on the Sunflower/Surf's Up era, wouldn't it make more sense to put it out next year for the former album's 50th anniversary?  Hasn't that been basically how they've been releasing these last few compilations?  Why would we expect this to come out beforehand?

Bruce also mentioned the box.  And it would be coming out in 2020 at this point.  We are just hoping for an additional 1969 digital release (similar to something like Sunshine Tomorrow Part 2) to drop tomorrow.