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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Goodbye Surfing Hello God , Footage...
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on: October 11, 2011, 09:19:53 AM
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The Inside Pop outtake discussions here are indeed almost all the info you'll be able to find on that topic, besides the various mini-discussions in the mega Smile thread. Plus, check the Good Vibrations film thread of a few weeks ago featuring info on Jules' appearance in the GV promo film. That was new and pretty awesome info to discover...and some neat photos too. And somewhere on the board there was some new info on that silent film of Brian banging out a tune on piano at Columbia during the Smile sessions (seen in American Band), again with new info. Plus, the silent clip of Brian wearing the firehat at Western #3 mixing something with Van Dyke and the Boys...some newer info there as well.
It still seems like a shortage of film overall from that time period, considering Brian had a Sony PortaPak video recording system which he was using to videotape various events during Smile. I'm almost out of hope that anything from those tapes will ever be discovered...because simply put no one has ever seen nor found any of them.
Brian could have them in storage somewhere for all we know. So maybe he just doesn't want anybody to see them. Or they were the tapes he actually burned....
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions)
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on: October 11, 2011, 08:08:41 AM
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Have Brian write some tunes like 'What Love Can Do', 'Good Kind Of Love', add in an instrumental or two (Something like 'In My Moondreams' perhaps). Record the album Wall-of-Sound style, master it in mono, and people WILL know this is the Beach Boys.
Heck get Hal Blaine and Carol Kaye in there with what remains of the now elderly wrecking crew for the wall of sound.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions)
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on: October 10, 2011, 03:29:17 PM
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I've been exchanging some DM's with this guy on twitter and I'm happy to announce that these sessions were for some work on the long awaited Stars & Stripes Vol. 2 What???, this cannot be true. I will go crazy like 1974-1975 Brian Wilson if this is true. I better get my bathrobe out of the closet and change my profile name back to Briansbathrobe. I think Roll Plymouth Rock was just trying to put us on. Brian wrote new songs that Mike has heard (he talked about them, so he must've heard them). Brian recorded stuff. They couldn't get enough guests in such a short while to record with them. Your right, kinda overreacted to the sheer thought of another beach boys country album
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions)
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on: October 10, 2011, 03:14:47 PM
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I've been exchanging some DM's with this guy on twitter and I'm happy to announce that these sessions were for some work on the long awaited Stars & Stripes Vol. 2 What???, this cannot be true. I will go crazy like 1974-1975 Brian Wilson if this is true. I better get my bathrobe out of the closet and change my profile name back to Briansbathrobe.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread
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on: October 10, 2011, 02:08:55 PM
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Yes, should have been part of 15 Big Ones I think. I really like that album but the song selection sure has its flaws. Sea Cruise is another one that I think is much better than some of the stuff that was ultimately released in 1976.
Totally agree, take some of those terrible 50s covers off that album and remix the originals to get one heck of an album.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread!
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on: October 10, 2011, 01:54:27 PM
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This may be a stupid question and may have been answered already but do you think the Beach Boys are aware of how good their music is? I often read interviews with Brian where he says that a song was a bit simple or he didn't like the melody etc but do you think they all at some point have stood back and gone "WOW"? I wonder if Dennis and Carl knew we all think their music/voices/shows were amazing to say the least?
I'm sure they realized their two brothers' talents but to me Brian and Dennis (probably Carl but I dont know he was so reserved) never seemed like the kind of people who would acknowledge how good something they wrote is. I'm sure there were "holy f*ck that sounds awesome" moments, but we know how Dennis moved on from POB before it was even released. And here we are almost 35 years later.... Brian has moments of self-deprecation but I'm sure he secretly plays some of his tunes on repeat for hours on end. To answer your question, I dont know. Brian probably still plays "be my baby" on repeat
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \
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on: October 10, 2011, 10:18:21 AM
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This song is the soundtrack to Brian's late 1970s craziness. The Brian of today would freak out if he listened to this with all the bad memories this would remind him of.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions)
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on: October 10, 2011, 09:48:18 AM
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Of course musical history began 50 years ago, for songwritin teams.
Are you mad? The song, in it's present form can be dated back to at least Elizabethan times. That is to say a verse/chorus structure. And I was being sarcastic about Lennon/McCartney. It's time for the baby-boomers version of popular history to end. There was life before the 60's. Well said, there was great music and culture way before the counterculture. Thats why American Graffiti was such a hit, it was a bittersweet portrait of American before the overrated events in the late 1960s happened. Screw woodstock or monteray, give me the TAMI show anyday with the Beach Boys rocking in their prime.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New studio album (Ocean Way sessions)
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on: October 10, 2011, 05:25:34 AM
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Hoping Joe Thomas is only involved with the vocals because that was the only thing he did well on Imagination.
Brian was responsible for Imagination's vocals afaik. BTW I never heard Joe Thomas was involved in any way. Where was that mentioned? IIRC he was let go of Brian's camp therefor I can't see him being back in what ever form. The other point, yes TSS will get people interested in new product from the Beach Boys but only for a short time. Smile is probably the most famous album in rock history with such a big myth surrounding it. The papers will make a big story of it's release and it will sell quite some copies. If the Beach Boys get their asses up and make a good new album that's not on the SIP-nostalgia way that Mike preffered for a long time (but now doesn't seem that much interested in to my ears) but features good/great new pop songs, boy-girl (why not, it's THE theme for pop music ever since it started) maybe even some "It's not easy being me" stuff - that could do very well for them. Smile's release is a very big promotion for every other Beach Boys release that comes after it (and only "Beach Boys" - it will have no big effect on solo products). Brian made up with Thomas apparently this summer and Thomas' drummer Eddie Bayers, was commenting on playing recent reunion recordings in the recent rolling stone.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Four Seasons
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on: October 09, 2011, 10:12:00 PM
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Yes of course Frankie's falsetto is inferior, but outside of that, they are a fantastic band. Their studio tracks were great too, I don't know who played drums for the 4 seasons but he was great. There's a ton of great songs, with great moments in them. I like for instance how the guitar just scorches "Let's Hang On". Whoever the studio guy that day was, he must have wanted a tip or something. Some of Frankie's lines like "Don'tttt cool off, while I'm Burnin!!!" are just great. He was a great singer, and they had a fantastic sound.
I even like some of their sleezy 70's stuff like "Who loves you" or whatever it's called. Great song.
Honestly though I'm most struck by their drums. I'm serious. Check out the drums on their songs.
Will check out the sleazy 70s stuff, I like Frankie's lower voice a lot as well.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / The Four Seasons
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on: October 09, 2011, 09:16:19 PM
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What do you guys think of this group? I think they are pretty good and the last great Doo-Wop group in the 1950s tradition. But I also think Frankie's great falsetto is still a notch bellow Brian's otherworldly Falsetto.
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