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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson Illinois House (MERGED)
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on: July 23, 2011, 07:43:46 AM
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i've spent many years in st charles and it does have some beautiful homes. wish i could afford it. geneva is also quite nice, i love eating at the mill race inn; sadly i never ran into him while dining there. when my wife would drag me shopping with her in geneva, my fantasy of running into brian was the only reason i would go.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys vinyl
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on: July 03, 2011, 06:56:43 AM
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check the ebay, but wherever you shop, keep your peepers peeled for the 80's capitol green label represses (check for the green sticker). those are yum; i ended up getting originals, and then picking up the green labels when i saw them. they can usually be had on the cheap and are really incredible sounding.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Oh good. That's... interesting.
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on: June 21, 2011, 08:00:28 AM
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music talent is not a genetically inherited trait. leave it to your dad, girls.
marilyn had the right idea, give it up and go sell some real estate or something.
You've never actually talked to a woman you weren't related to, right? u mad bro? you must really like the music of wilson phillips.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Looks like it was premature afterall: SMiLE Sessions canceled!
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on: June 20, 2011, 09:34:18 PM
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So lets get some good ol' SMiLE discussion going again. I was thinking the other day that the whole thing would have probably followed Surf's Up in structure. I've heard people say that Heroes and Villains is "SMiLE in a song", perhaps that's true musically, but I think philosophically Surf's Up represents SMiLE in a song. "It's a man at a concert," he said. "All around him there's the audience, playing their roles, dressed up in fancy clothes, looking through opera glasses, but so far away from the drama, from life—'Back through the opera glass you see the pit and the pendulum drawn.'"
The music begins to take over. 'Columnated ruins domino.' Empires, ideas, lives, institutions—everything has to fall, tumbling like dominoes.
He begins to awaken to the music; sees the pretentiousness of everything. 'The music hall a costly bow.' Then even the music is gone, turned into a trumpeter swan, into what the music really is.
'Canvas the town and brush the backdrop.' He's off in his vision, on a trip. Reality is gone; he's creating it like a dream. 'Dove-nested towers.' Europe, a long time ago. 'The laughs come hard in Auld Lang Syne.' The poor people in the cellar taverns, trying to make themselves happy by singing.
Then there's the parties, the 'drinking, trying to forget the wars, the battles at sea. "While at port a do or die.' Ships in the harbor, battling it out. A kind of Roman empire thing.
'A choke of grief.' At his own sorrow and the emptiness of his life, because he can't even cry for the suffering in the world, for his own suffering.
And then, hope. 'Surf's up! . . . Come about hard and join the once and often spring you gave.' Go back to the kids, to the beach, to childhood.
"'I heard the word'—of God; 'Wonderful thing'—the joy of enlightenment, of seeing God. And what is it? 'A children's song!' And then there's the song itself; the song of children; the song of the universe rising and falling in wave after wave, the song of God, hiding the love from us, but always letting us find it again, like a mother singing to her children." To me the song has two parts, of course it has two movements musically (I suppose three if you count the tag), but there are two clear sections here, the unenlightened first part and the enlightened second part. The first part is at an opera hall, listening to music, and not really "getting" it. This would be the Heroes and Villains section, the A-side, the "Americana movement". Here the listener is, moving through a record store isle, leafing through a stack of 45s, getting bits and pieces of the American musical tradition, all this he views through the lens of history, the lens of our institutions which color our perceptions and separate us from reality. The second part is "off on [a] vision, [a] trip", recreating reality in a whole new way. This is where we would have songs like vegetables and wind chimes I think. Structurally I think SMiLE would have sort of been like a reverse Abbey Road, an A-side medley (with a hidden track at the start), and a B-side of longer songs. But that's just a few thoughts to digest, and I must stress, to appease those of you who are 18th of May, that I mean none of this as definite fact in any way, only as one man's humble interpretation being offered for discussion. i can dig it. that's the gist of my personal smile mix that i laid out on the fanmix thread. the album is structurally a macrocosm of the song, where each song is a work of three parts, demonstrating the complete wholeness of three, the sacredness of three; yin, yang, and eternal spirit/force/AI that creates and holds all consciousness together.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Not sure how to feel about this news
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on: June 20, 2011, 07:47:52 PM
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She's clearly passionate about the subject, so what would be so bad about her taking a shot at it? Even if you don't like her work, it's a little ridiculous to shoot the idea down sight unseen. Who knows, she might even surprise people and come up with something great. Better her than someone who only does it because some studio thought it might be a good/marketable idea!
I do agree with DaDa though, a focus on a small time frame would be best. Only thing is though, in order to satisfy movie-goers, you couldn't end on a dark note (no pun intended) like Smile's collapse - you'd have to add a nice little coda about how he triumphantly finished it, and that would ultimately require some mention/summary of the intervening years.
Whoever tries to pen a great Brian Wilson movie has got their work cut out for them, no doubt - I just think we should let it happen before prematurely ripping it to shreds.
have lewis shiner write the script...maybe make it a glimpses-esque parallel universe pseudobiopic, but keep the facts intact. or just document the post smile fallout time frame from 67 to 69. give me 20 minutes of the brian wilson character detailing every action from "busy doin nothin" and another 20 of the same from "i'd love just once to see you". keep the whole affair low key and mellow like the output from that time, like friends or sunflower and a nice hash joint.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Not sure how to feel about this news
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on: June 20, 2011, 07:29:09 PM
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Well who the merda do you want to make a Beach Boys film? Hardcore Dennis fans threaten to make a film called 'The Drummer'? - board says no. A member of the touring band for 20 years threatens to produce a film with exclusive BB's content - Board says No. A self-proclaimed hardcore Beach Boys fanatic says her dream, and only her dream, is to make a Brian biopic - Board says no, but still would bang. diablo? is that you? im not interested in banging stamos at this time, so what remains on the pantheon of bangable directors is severly lacking. i in this respect, im gonna make a turn and state my approval of diablo's dream. and ron howard? no way, i guess that would work but he's a little too heavyhanded for my tastes. wonder what cameron crowe would do with it?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy birthday, Brian!
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on: June 20, 2011, 07:09:16 PM
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happy birthday to brian! did he ever work/record on his birthday or did he just chillax and eat ice cream? i saw something in 71 but was he even with the boys at that session?
BDW in 71 (or could be 72) made a brief stop at 30th street station (phila.). He spoke with Ed Sciaky of WMMR-FM, bought himself a birthday card and sang Happy Birthday to himself before boarding the soon to be departing train for NYC. A somewhat erie encounter. woah that's a rather dour anecdote. may you never have to sing happy birthday solo again, brian. cheers
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Favourite live album
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on: June 20, 2011, 03:43:19 PM
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official releases/dvds:
the knife "silent shout" concert, gothenburg 2006 daft punk "alive 2007" justice "a cross the universe"
unofficial: beach boys "washington dc 1967" (disc 2 of the GSHG boot; not sure where else this is found)
uhh...maybe i'll add more later
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Not sure how to feel about this news
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on: June 20, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
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she'll turn it into pure indie hipster shite. she should back to what she was good at, stripping. i dont really know much about her, but i'm not gonna lie, i'd hit that sh*t. i bet she's pretty cool, she used to dj in iowa city!
"She's an overpriced call girl who got lucky once."
"I... envy the tattoo artist who had that huge canvas of arm fat to work with" ~stewie
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Opinons on what's false about what's written in WIBN: My Own Story
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on: June 14, 2011, 02:44:27 PM
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Main problem I have with Bill's zen theory - if you ignore Brian's belief-du-jour at the time being Subud anyway - is that he uses evidence from Brian's pseudobiography to support his point, thus rendering it, if not instantly invalid, then at the very least seriously questionable. Brian's name may be on the front of that book, but it was written by Todd Gold and the guy looking over his shoulder as he did it had the initials EEL, not BDW.
landy knew everything about brian. he's a better source than brian because he knew more about brian than brian does (consciously). he was his psychiatrist/psychologist/friend/handler for what 20 years? lets not forget he did save his life, right? what todd didn't steal he gathered from interviews. all his sources were forthcoming and the data they provided has been mostly corroborated. of course brian didn't write the book, his psyche did through copious sessions of therapy and direct interviewing.
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