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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's vocal decline - when is it first noticeable to you? on: January 21, 2021, 01:15:54 PM
Arriving a bit late here, but I too was fascinated by Brian's vocal (and physical) transformation, so much so I decided to make a (somewhat) comprehensive video demonstrating its evolution a little while back: https://youtu.be/BaLkubqbzeo

In case you wanted a 'quick' 44 minute summation of 60 years of singing and 78 years of living.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 23, 2020, 08:24:40 PM
The allmusic link to 1970 Release doesn't work for me anymore, as it just redirects somewhere else, but the album is still listed in their discography on the site. Anyone else have this problem?

Insider info says there was a takedown request.

Should I perhaps remove my first post then to be safe?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's role in the live band during the \ on: November 23, 2020, 08:23:08 PM
I think HCTN, along with Student Demonstration Time for that matter, would have been received far better (at least nowadays) if they were only released as singles. In both cases the songs could be perceived as interesting curios in Beach Boys history, acting as examples of them wholeheartedly embracing contemporary trends and styles (i.e. songs as political rallying cries and extended disco dance anthems), without having the notoriety of taking up space on albums in which they're very ill-fitting.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 23, 2020, 08:06:38 PM
After seeing all the titles just listed, here are some (hypothetical) questions this collection raises for me and other interesting things I noticed (apologies if some of these things have already been asked/answered, just hypothesizing out loud some more):
1. "It's About Time" has Carl added as one of the composers
2. Both "My Solution" and "My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals)" are included, even though only one is needed to protect the copyright. Why include both if this is just a copyright extension digital-only release (if that's what this is)?
3. Is "Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)" (one of the auto-generated YouTube titles discovered about a month ago) the same as this collection's "Cool, Cool Water (Alternate Version)"?
4. Is there a complete version of "This Whole World (Long Version)" and not just one with backing vocals?
5. "All I Wanna Do (Session Intro & Backing Vocals)" has no mention of a track in the title even though the preview includes what sounds like a basic track. Is that just the session intro or should it be considered a "Track & Backing Vocals" mix?
6. The mix of "Sweet and Bitter" is very stripped down compared to the circulating version, which I believe was said to have been overdubbed some time later. Is the version included here an attempt at an authentic 1970 mix?
7. Is there going to be new mixes (aka 2019 mixes) for all tracks from this era or just those not on the original albums as this collection hints at?
8. Assuming this collection makes up at least some of Feel Flows' contents (and is not a separate release altogether, it's hard to tell for certain at this point), there's ~2.5 CDs worth of material here, with the addition of the entire Big Sur concert plus Dennis' solo material making the total ~3 CDs. If there's a remix or remaster of the original albums then it's 4 CDs, leaving only ~80 minutes left to cover what's missing if there are only 5 CD's.
9. What's noticeably missing (from what I can tell anyways): San Miguel (complete song), Break Away, Celebrate the News, What Can the Matter Be?, I'm Going Your Way (complete song), Loop de Loop (Flip Flop Flyin' in an Aeroplane) (complete song), Where Is She?, Games Two Can Play, Soulful Old Man Sunshine, Back Home (complete song), Fallin' in Love, (Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again, Barnyard Blues, 4th of July, Barbara (probably included as part of Dennis' solo material), Symphony of Frogs, Untitled #3, Telephone Backgrounds (On A Clear Day), Won't You Tell Me (with Brian & Carl's vocals), songs from the Fred Vail country album, Silly Walls (with David Sandler on lead vocals), Awake (Brian's piano demo), and songs from the early Carl & the Passions sessions in late 1971.
10. While only tangentially related, is there any news on releases by The Flame or Spring, since the former album is 50 years old now (and also had a follow-up that's still unreleased) and the latter album's recording sessions took place in 1971 (probably some of 1972 as well)?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: November 23, 2020, 07:57:47 PM
Warning: this is the first of two wall-of-text posts incoming.

The allmusic link to 1970 Release doesn't work for me anymore, as it just redirects somewhere else, but the album is still listed in their discography on the site. Anyone else have this problem? https://www.allmusic.com/album/1970-release-mw0003450792

If so, here's the complete list of songs, with proper titles as provided by Elora (presumably gathered from YouTube's auto-generated titles, with some errors and gaps corrected by me where able. The bolded parts are my guesses where no official title could be determined).

Good Time (2019 Mix) 2:56
Carnival (Over the Waves) - Sobra Las Olas 1:34
Susie Cincinnati (2019 Mix) 3:02
I Just Got My Pay (2019 Mix) 2:43
This Whole World (Alternate Ending) 1:41
Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate Version) 3:27
Our Sweet Love (String Section) 1:00
Slip On Through (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 2:48
This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix) 3:11
Add Some Music To Your Day (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 4:35
Deirdre (Backing Track) 3:35
It's About Time (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 2:53
Tears in the Morning (Track & Backing Vocals) 4:13
All I Wanna Do (Session Intro & Backing Vocals) 3:46
Forever (Sessions Highlights) 3:37
Forever (Track & Backing Vocals) 2:59
Our Sweet Love (Track & Backing Vocals) 2:39
At My Window (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 2:51
Cool, Cool Water (Alternate Version) 6:26
Loop De Loop (Flip Flop Flyin' in an Aeroplane) (Backing Track) 2:49
San Miguel (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 2:59 [also has brief session intro]
Good Time (Session Intro, Track & Backing Vocals) 4:27
When Girls Get Together (Backing Track) 1:51
Susie Cincinnati (Basic Session Highlights) 3:04
Back Home (Demo) 2:23
Slip On Through (Alternate 1969 Mix With Session Intro) 3:25
This Whole World (Backing Vocals Section) 1:05
Add Some Music to Your Day (2019 A Capella) 3:30
Got to Know the Woman (A Capella) 2:55
All I Wanna Do (A Capella) 2:58
Forever (2019 A Capella Mix) 2:52
Sunflower Promo 1:00
Student Demonstration Time 4:02 [presumably a new mix?]
'Til I Die 2:38 [also a new mix?]
Big Sur 2:36
Seasons in the Sun (2019 Mix) 3:30
Sound of Free (1970 Single Mix, 2019 Master) 2:22
Sweet and Bitter (2019 Mix) 2:33
My Solution 3:44
H.E.L.P. Is on the Way (2019 Mix) 2:31
You Never Give Me Your Money 0:40
Don't Go Near the Water (Alternate Version) 2:42
Surf's Up Promo 1:02
Good Time 0:19 [seemingly a "Backing Vocals Section"]
Don't Go Near the Water (Track & Backing Vocals Mix) 3:41
Long Promised Road (Track & Background Vocal Mix) 3:40
Take a Load Off Your Feet (Alternate Vocals Mix) 2:29
Disney Girls (1957) 4:17 [seemingly a "Track & Backing Vocals" mix, but no vocals heard in the preview]
Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals) 3:46
Feel Flows (Track & Backing Vocals) 5:02
Lookin' at Tomorrow (A Welfare Song) (Session Intro & Alternate Mix) 2:43
A Day in the Life of a Tree (Track & Backing Vocals) 2:54
Surf's Up, Pt.1 (1971 Remake Track with 1966 Brian Vocal) 1:41
Surf's Up (Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix) 4:08
Feel Flows (Backing Vocals Excerpt) 0:35
Disney Girls 0:36 [seemingly a "Backing Vocals Excerpt"]
Medley: All of My Love/Ecology 5:06
Medley: Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows 2:47
'Til I Die (Piano Demo) 1:56
Riot in Cell Block #9 (Live/1970) 3:31 [from the 1970 Big Sur Folk Festival concert]
Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) 2:44 [seemingly an "A Capella" mix]
My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals) 3:43
Sunflower Promo 1:02 [a second promo, only noticeable difference in preview is the inclusion of This Whole World instead of Deirdre]
It's About Time (Backing Vocals Excerpt) 0:50

Also another repost of the link if you want to hear the samples: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6570o9dAr4Q
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 28, 2020, 10:20:03 PM
"Unfearing all appearing message divine / Eases the burning"

Thank you for the news Howie! And thanks to you, Mark and Alan for your work the last few years in keeping Feel Flows alive and getting it to this point. Here's to hopefully being able to buy and listen to the set soon so we can truly appreciate your efforts (plus those of the boys of course).
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 25, 2020, 03:34:08 PM
Here's what I see



It's not the same as the copyrighted audio links that have been noted thus far (with the "Music in this video | Learn more | Listen ad-free with YouTube Premium" prefaces), but it's still automatically generated by YT. But yeah, it's probably just mistakenly credited to Dennis and Daryl based on the credits of "Cuddle Up" (through its "Old Movie" title connection).
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 25, 2020, 02:50:41 PM
Regarding Poops material, I did discover one thing that could be related to it, although the connection is verrrrry loose and probably means nothing. An auto-generated video of the Lew London song "Old Movies" (link here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwvFju97UOA) is listed as being composed by Dennis Wilson and Daryl Dragon. In reality, this song in particular is written by Mark Josephs, but it seems that YT confused it with "Old Movie", the Dennis Wilson title. With that being said, YT auto-generated video descriptions aren't infallible (elsewhere they credit Dennis' "Barbara" as being written by Brian and Daryl Dragon), but it seems strange that they mistook the Mark Josephs song for the still-unreleased Dennis one. Could just be there was more info on the Dennis song than the Josephs song. I also don't know exactly when this description was added, but no earlier then October 26, 2018 at least.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 23, 2020, 07:06:46 PM
Looking at the list again, some of the titles are making me hypothesize a bit. For one, "Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)" suggests there is a "Cool, Cool Water (2019 Mix)", that the former is a secondary mix. And "This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix)" appears to be the extended track with backing vocals, but why not the version with lead vocals? Same with "My Solution".

Adding to this is how the list is mostly made up of alternate mixes (some of which have been previously released), new mixes of songs otherwise only available on box sets (barring Susie Cincinnati, but a new mix was on the MIC box set), and two medleys from 1971 (one of which seems to be humourous studio goofing and the other an assemblage of minute long fragments, including an early version of the "River Song" intro).

While personally I think all of this is cool, this isn't necessarily mind-blowing stuff, at least to the level Howie promised. Rather, it feels like a sort of Feel Flows outtakes collection, songs that didn't make the cut for the physical box set, like Sunshine Tomorrow 2, but with the copyright protected material included as well (although it's odd "Seasons in the Sun" and "Big Sur" aren't in some alternate mix like "My Solution", or "I'm Going Your Way" and "Carnival" for that matter). If this is the case (like I said, just hypothesizing here), Feel Flows as intended still has another year to come out mostly unscathed (the only major omissions probably being the aforementioned 1970 tracks, assuming Dennis' solo material survives as well). Unfortunately, it would also mean another year of scouring this and other Feel Flows threads in hopes of any positive updates. Can't wait Undecided
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: October 23, 2020, 06:27:13 PM
One more insignificant question; I was listening to Carl and the Passions for the first time in a while (blown away by "Marcella"!) and I was wondering to which extent Brian contributed to "He Come Down". It's usually considered to be more of an Al/Mike song I think yet the writing credit says Jardine/Wilson/Love. Could this be a song that originated from a very sketchy Brian tune (probably without lyrics at that point?) that was then further developed by the other two?

It'd be the other way around - All This is That and He Come Down have both been spoken about as Al tunes written during the TM retreat that Mike gave a lyrical assist to, then at some point a Wilson made their own changes to each in the studio. Annoyingly little's been said about it, but Brian is apparently responsible for a lot of the arrangement. The vocals definitely (he's singing all over it), the track maybe (that's likely him on piano and one of the two organ parts). And I'd be surprised if he didn't write the chorus.

That was my thinking too, especially when listening to some of Brian's other gospel-tinged numbers ("Walking Down the Path of Life", "That Same Song", both of which I'm pretty sure reuse similar sections of music from "He Come Down"). Plus didn't Brian mention somewhat recently doing a "new" song with Blondie called "He Come Down"? Seems like he's more attached to the song than Al or Mike.

Also, mind letting me know what lines he sings if you can? In my searches and enquiries people always point out that he sings on the song, rarely has anyone pointed out where he sings on it, and even then it's always mixed answers. Doesn't help that there's soooooo many vocal lines happening (another constant feature of Brian's songs during this period) and that this was during the early stages of his voice changing so nothing's immediately recognizable.

God I love this song.

Brian's there anonymously in the lower mid range of all the group harmony vocals, most noticeable in the big "yes I believe" where he's above Mike and his final "eeee" draws out longer than anyone else. At the start of the second chorus he sings "oh lord I believe, oh yes I believe" on the right, does a 15 Big Ones ish "talk about Jesus" in the middle soon after, some "yeah" bass vocals in the penultimate section, and in the fade he's screaming "yes I believe" with Blondie on the left.

Thanks for that! I had an inkling most of those were Brian. I knew the "eee" was commonly attributed to him, but the others I've heard attributed to Dennis, Mike and Blondie and/or Ricky respectively, and honestly it's not too much of a stretch. Crazy to think at one point Brian could sound like everyone else in the group! I thought that only happened with married couples LOL
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: October 23, 2020, 10:57:44 AM
One more insignificant question; I was listening to Carl and the Passions for the first time in a while (blown away by "Marcella"!) and I was wondering to which extent Brian contributed to "He Come Down". It's usually considered to be more of an Al/Mike song I think yet the writing credit says Jardine/Wilson/Love. Could this be a song that originated from a very sketchy Brian tune (probably without lyrics at that point?) that was then further developed by the other two?

It'd be the other way around - All This is That and He Come Down have both been spoken about as Al tunes written during the TM retreat that Mike gave a lyrical assist to, then at some point a Wilson made their own changes to each in the studio. Annoyingly little's been said about it, but Brian is apparently responsible for a lot of the arrangement. The vocals definitely (he's singing all over it), the track maybe (that's likely him on piano and one of the two organ parts). And I'd be surprised if he didn't write the chorus.

That was my thinking too, especially when listening to some of Brian's other gospel-tinged numbers ("Walking Down the Path of Life", "That Same Song", both of which I'm pretty sure reuse similar sections of music from "He Come Down"). Plus didn't Brian mention somewhat recently doing a "new" song with Blondie called "He Come Down"? Seems like he's more attached to the song than Al or Mike.

Also, mind letting me know what lines he sings if you can? In my searches and enquiries people always point out that he sings on the song, rarely has anyone pointed out where he sings on it, and even then it's always mixed answers. Doesn't help that there's soooooo many vocal lines happening (another constant feature of Brian's songs during this period) and that this was during the early stages of his voice changing so nothing's immediately recognizable.

God I love this song.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 23, 2020, 10:34:07 AM
A bit of interesting information that a few people have pointed out. Some of use people who upload rarities and remixes to Youtube have begun to receive copyright claims for a few distinct tracks.

So far these tracks have included:
  • My Solution [Track and Backing Vocals] (I swear this is real)
  • Good Time [2019 Mix]
  • Surf's Up [Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix]

Seems like some things are moving forwards.

Others that have been blocked... (I'll edit this as I find new ones)
‘Til I Die (Piano Demo)
Tears in the Morning (Track & Backing Vocals)
My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals)
Big Sur
Susie Cincinnati (2019 Mix)
Add Some Music to Your Day (A Capella)
H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (2019 Mix)
Sound Of Free (1970 Single Mix, 2019 Master)
Take A Load Off Your Feet (Alternate Vocals Mix)
Back Home (Demo)
This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix)
Medley: All Of My Love/Ecology
Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)
Forever (2019 A Cappella Mix)
Seasons In The Sun
Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) (A Capella)
Our Sweet Love (Track & Backing Vocals Mix)
Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals)
Medley: Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows

I didn't even know any of these were actually up on YouTube.  Now I'm bummed I never got to hear any of them.  :-(

It's not so much that these tracks were put on YT then taken down, but rather certain tracks already published are now being identified with these titles. So "Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals)" was never publicly online (at least to my knowledge), but the regular studio version is now identified and labelled by YT as being that track since there's enough similarities (and for some reason it wasn't already identified as being the 2009 remaster like some of the other Surf's Up tracks). You can see it in the description of this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Unn8wIQzAeE

While I may be getting ahead of myself, seeing this makes me think we might be getting a digital release not unlike the Wake the World and I Can Hear Music sets a few years before, this time covering 1970. These songs all have sessions from 1970* or earlier and together seem more than just a "release what's necessary to protect copyright" collection compared to the I'm Going Your Way EP. The real question is whether or not this hypothetical release affects/effected the planned contents of the box set, assuming the titles listed above are all that there is. The unreleased stuff was probably taken from the box set, but there's still a lot missing (nothing regarding "All I Wanna Do" or "Break Away", or booted things like the percussion track of "It's About Time" or "Add Some Music" with alternate lyrics). I think this is the closest thing to a leaked tracklist some of y'all we're hoping for.

*With exception to the two medleys ("All Of My Love/Ecology" and "Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows") and possibly "Surf's Up [Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix]". While I can believe "Ecology" has sessions dating from 1970, I thought the "Happy Birthday, Brian" was from Brian's 29th birthday in 1971? Does this mean it's from a year before, or that the real date is uncertain/unknown? Is this hypothetical release including 1971 material as well? And is "Surf's Up [Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix]" just Brian's vocal from the Smile Sessions (as this video suggests: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aK4im7frScQ) or is it...something else?
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail Plane Song (2012 version) appreciation thread on: September 30, 2020, 02:09:40 PM
I'm not a fan of the 2012 mix, but at one time there was a fan edit on youtube of "Sail Plane Song" and "Loop de Loop" that worked astoundingly well.

I was going to post it here, but it looks like it was taken down.

Luckily I did save it to my computer way back when.

I think I remember this video too, or something similar to it. It was Sail Plane Song's verses but with the Loop De Loop chorus, very dynamic, and was visually accompanied by some sort of first-person pilot-shooter game (with the game sfx included). One of the comments even said something like "I'm pretty sure this wasn't what Brian had in mind when he wrote this"
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 28, 2020, 11:23:21 PM
It's alright JaiGuruDev, I understood the reference.

Regarding the issue of “what can I do to help get this released”, there was a germ of an idea between me and one of the mods on the Beach Boys subreddit about getting people to cover songs from this era and publish/share videos of these covers advocating for Feel Flows' release. I haven't heard back from him in a bit, but certainly there are people here that may be interested in doing that as well, and what better way to show people how amazing this set would be than with the music itself. It may be for naught, or maybe a bombardment of covers could attract some attention. I mean, this (beautiful) cover of Thank Him (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r-HYZL-zFjA) got the attention of Brian's management and social media and was apparently heard by Brian himself, so who knows. And hey, even if it isn't released this year, with enough songs we can have our own version of the box set by the end of the year Grin
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: September 18, 2020, 09:33:35 PM
Both options are (somewhat) possible...

https://youtu.be/tTnGji4netE
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Sunflower Birthday Celebration! A new Youtube video to mark the occasion on: September 08, 2020, 05:30:41 PM
Might as well complete the Brian-trilogy and do A Day In the Life of a Tree. I can definitely imagine an accompanying video in the same vein as the "Trees" segment from Melody Time. Disney Girls (1957) could also probably work as well.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: August 29, 2020, 01:27:00 PM
A collection of footage from the 1970's of live and studio performances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=714J5H3LgxQ

Also at 8:23 onward there appears to be a studio session from the summer of 1977, post-Adult/Child but pre-MIU, with Brian on piano (and vocals?) plus a horn section. Any ideas on what they could be recording? The only thing I can think of is the 1977 version of "Gimme Some Lovin'", but even that's a very speculative guess.


Great! Never saw that much of this footage. I also would love to know more about when and why it was recorded.
Probably comes from a rehearsal, certainly not a recording session.

That makes more sense. Probably rehearsing for those shows during the last two weeks in August before the 'Tarmac incident'.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: August 29, 2020, 09:49:13 AM
A collection of footage from the 1970's of live and studio performances:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=714J5H3LgxQ

Also at 8:23 onward there appears to be a studio session from the summer of 1977, post-Adult/Child but pre-MIU, with Brian on piano (and vocals?) plus a horn section. Any ideas on what they could be recording? The only thing I can think of is the 1977 version of "Gimme Some Lovin'", but even that's a very speculative guess.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl on Stars and Stripes on: August 28, 2020, 02:53:41 PM
I think the most frustrating thing about Stars and Stripes is that, in theory, a Beach Boys country album isn't a totally absurd idea. They delved into the genre a fair number of times and it almost always turned out enjoyable, whether it was "Hold On Dear Brother", "Cottonfields" or the "California Saga" suite. Even the more pop or rock-based songs that had a little country-flavouring were solid (the second version of "We're Together Again", "You Need A Mess of Help to Stand Alone"). But those aren't exactly popular Beach Boys songs to the public, so we just ended up with a another greatest hits-like tracklist, and songs that either didn't work very well in their new countrified arrangements or relied almost solely on the guest vocalist to make it fit the concept. "Long Tall Texan" was the only song whose inclusion seemed to make sense.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Not sold on MIU yet.... on: August 16, 2020, 11:34:22 PM
I quite like it, but I find it to be a very low-key album, with nothing really overly ambitious like on the surrounding albums. Just kind of a pleasant nothingness overall.

That being said, it's probably one of the more stranger albums they've made. For one, its contents consist of: 2 re-recorded 15 Big Ones era outtakes, 2 Love You era outtakes, 2 could-have-been Christmas songs (one of which is a quasi-remake of "Hawaii"), a Celebration instrumental with lyrics/vocals, and 5 more originals from Mike, Brian and/or Al. And yet it all hangs together quite well, unlike some of the other archive raiding from albums at this time (nothing like "Good Time" or "When Girls Get Together").

Then there's the background behind its creation. They're in Iowa, owing an album to Reprise, with the band having recently and temporarily broken up, meaning Carl and Dennis are mostly absent, and yet none of this tension can be found in the record. You also have Al at the forefront of production duties (could that explain its low-key nature?), Brian on autopilot but his voice bizarrely smoother and stronger than before (and would cease to be mere months afterwards), and the Mike-Brian songwriting collaboration resumed for the last time, at least for an entire album length.

Just a strange set of circumstances behind such an innocuous sounding album.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys ICON [2CD] - 6/3/14 on: August 06, 2020, 04:20:22 PM
Sail On Sailor / Be True to Your School / Surf's Up / That's Why God Made the Radio has got to be the weirdest sequence of songs on any BB record !

I always figured this 1970 budget comp contained the strangest tracklist of them all: https://www.discogs.com/The-Beach-Boys-The-Beach-Boys/release/726715
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 30, 2020, 08:52:34 PM

1. I haven’t listened to these three yet, but it was discussed earlier in this thread that at least three (obviously more but I’m curious about these) were rejected from MiC by one or more members of BRI: Thank Him, My Solution, and Carry Me Home. While I definitely understand as I know the lyrical content of Carry Me Home, what was wrong with the other two?


Yeah, one can see why Carry Me Home was withheld - although I'm pretty sure it was meant to be about Vietnam, the lyrics could be seen as distasteful or at least too raw considering Dennis' passing.

If Brian was embarrassed by Let Him Run Wild enough to strike it off a compilation then I can def imagine a similar situation with My Solution. It's an oddball song and the spoken word is very goofy. Hard to say what was wrong with Thank Him - it's pretty innocuous and presentable as far as I can tell. I don't know the lyrics but if it's supposed to be about God then maybe Brian deems it too personal for release.

Funny, since Brian has brought "My Solution" from depths a surprising number of times. He mentioned it being a track on an early version of Love You in the 1976 Bob Harris interview, he cut a new track for it in 1980 as a part of the "Song Within A Song" medley with a new "Shortenin' Bread" track, and he recycled it for the opening of "Happy Days" on Imagination of all albums. It'd be a bit out of character for him to feel embarrassed about releasing it, but of course maybe his feelings about it have since changed. And I always figured that "Thank Him" was simply too murky of a recording quality wise for it to be part of the MIC box set, and so it got put on The Big Beat 1963 digital set where that wasn't much of an issue.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2020, 10:23:32 PM
Just letting you all know that one of the users on The Beach Boys subreddit (r/thebeachboys) created a petition on change.org regarding the box set release: http://chng.it/T8FmT4Fw

I also have an unlisted video prepared on YouTube at the moment that I can make public if you all want (unless I'm jumping the gun, in which case I'll just leave it). I don't know how many people are gonna see it but a little's better than none: https://youtu.be/24mwu1E5Mdg

Also hello, fellow former lurker here, recent Beach Boys obsessive and creator of custom Beach Boys mixes of varying quality and an 8-bit recreation of Love You.

Edit: video now public, albeit with caveat
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