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26  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: January 03, 2017, 01:33:38 PM
http://thehill.com/homenews/news/312542-clintons-to-attend-trumps-inauguration

So Hillary and Bill are going, does that mean they're supporting Racismysoganihomophobism?

In comparison, Mitt Romney after losing in 2012 did not attend Obama's 2nd inauguration.

If the Beach Boys do play the inauguration, it doesn't mean they support everything Trump has said, done,  allegedly said or allegedly done.

There are more important things to lose your sanity over!


I can be upset with them over this as well. I'll be there protesting the day after with the Women's March, so it's not just about The Beach Boys to me. And I'm not losing my sanity over it. I'm keeping it by keeping my eyes open to who he is and the danger he presents. I'll be there to show the rest of the world and future generations that we weren't at all united behind him.
27  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Songs Without Mike Love on: January 02, 2017, 10:32:20 PM
I think there might be some more on Friends. Wake the World?  Be Here in The Morning?

I think you're right about Be Here In The Morning. Is that low part Murry Wilson maybe?

Wake the World I feel like I hear Mike's nasal twang prominently on the chorus, but I could definitely be wrong. What do others think on that one?

Same here, especially on the words morning and running water.

And actually, I'm pretty sure I hear Mike on Be Here In The Morning as well. 

I feel like on the "ooo-wah-ah-ah-ah" pre-chorus I hear Murry. It kind of sounds like if Dennis did a deep bass.

Yeah I would agree with that.  I think I hear Mike on "full" and "No calls from Korthoff, Parks, or Grillo".  I also hear him on the harmonizing at the end of the song.  

First of all, that "full" is beautiful. What cool moment to focus on for a bit. "Deep & Wide" TTGA style.

Second, I feel like I hear him best in the harmonizing at the end. Certainly possible!
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Songs Without Mike Love on: January 02, 2017, 08:46:25 PM
Does anyone hear Mike on the song "Friends"? I don't think I do.
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Songs Without Mike Love on: January 02, 2017, 08:42:16 PM
I think there might be some more on Friends. Wake the World?  Be Here in The Morning?

I think you're right about Be Here In The Morning. Is that low part Murry Wilson maybe?

Wake the World I feel like I hear Mike's nasal twang prominently on the chorus, but I could definitely be wrong. What do others think on that one?

Same here, especially on the words morning and running water.

And actually, I'm pretty sure I hear Mike on Be Here In The Morning as well. 

I feel like on the "ooo-wah-ah-ah-ah" pre-chorus I hear Murry. It kind of sounds like if Dennis did a deep bass.
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Songs Without Mike Love on: January 02, 2017, 08:16:43 PM
I think there might be some more on Friends. Wake the World?  Be Here in The Morning?

I think you're right about Be Here In The Morning. Is that low part Murry Wilson maybe?

Wake the World I feel like I hear Mike's nasal twang prominently on the chorus, but I could definitely be wrong. What do others think on that one?
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Beach Boys Songs Without Mike Love on: January 02, 2017, 01:04:53 PM
I don't mean for this to be a divisive thread, prefer focus on just being informative. But I was looking to make a playlist of Beach Boys songs that don't include Mike in the vocal blend, and wondered what fit the bill. I would love to have another list that was just recordings that had the three Wilsons, but I think this is a good start. Obviously, it can be hard to pick out voices in the blend sometimes, especially since Brian would occasionally just overdub himself.

Here's what I think so far, but PLEASE feel free to add or correct! I'm probably VERY wrong on a number of these! (I will update the original post to reflect new information)

Surfin' Safari
Cuckoo Clock

Surfin' USA
Misirlou (Instrumental)
Honky Tonk (Instrumental)
Let's Go Trippin'

Surfer Girl
The Surfer Moon
The Rocking Surfer (Instrumental)
Your Summer Dream
Boogie Woodie (Instrumental)

Shut Down, Volume II
Denny's Drums

All Summer Long
We'll Run Away (All Brian?)

Christmas Album
Blue Christmas
White Christmas

Today!
Do You Wanna Dance?
In The Back Of My Mind

Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!!)
Girl Don't Tell Me
Summer Mean New Love
I'm Bugged At My Old Man

Pet Sounds
Don't Talk (Put Your Head On My Shoulder)
Let's Go Away For A While
God Only Knows
Pet Sounds
Caroline, No

Friends
Passing By
Little Bird
Be Still
Busy Doin' Nothin'
Diamond Head

20/20
Be With Me
The Nearest Far Away Place [Bruce Instrumental]
I Went To Sleep

Sunflower
Our Sweet Love

Surf's Up
Long Promised Road
Feel Flows
Lookin' At Tomorrow (A Welfare Song) [Al Solo]
A Day In The Life Of A Tree

Carl & The Passions - Hang Tough
Here She Comes [Ricky & Blondie]
Make It Good
Cuddle Up

Holland
The Trader

15 Big Ones
Palisades Park
Just Once in My Life

Love You
Good Time
Honkin' Down The Highway
The Night Was So Young
Let's Put Our Hearts Together
I Wanna Pick You Up

M.I.U.
Come Go With Me

L.A. (Light Album)
Love Surrounds Me
Baby Blue
Goin' South
Full Sail

Keepin' The Summer Alive
Livin' With a Heartache

Still Cruisin'
In My Car
Wipeout

If people want to add later albums that's awesome. I might try to round up official outtakes at some point too, but feel free to contribute those as well.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 22, 2016, 09:07:48 PM
I'm sorry you feel hated. I don't hate you. We disagree politically. It sounds like we both think the stakes are very high, but it doesn't mean I'm willing to engage in anything bordering on hate.

I'm getting the feeling that many people in this thread are liberals which is just a shorthand of saying hysterical people with no political understanding very little formal education and who read a couple of selected websites like moveon.org or read the guardian rag magazine and have hatred for Trump who is already doing an outstanding job in leading this country and will do more for women and more for minorities and more for the gay community than all the brain-dead Liberals combined that have tried to lead this country of late .  I don't like to get angry or unkind here but I'm so frustrated with the moral self-righteousness of snarky liberals who pay no attention to the real actions and accomplishments of the president-elect and just go with the crowd from things they have heard from other uninformed and barely educated people who live only for hate and snark. I would be thrilled if the Patriotic Beach Boys would put country first and would perform which is not a political act but an act of patriotism and unity. I thought the motto on the left was stronger together wasn't it? There is nothing more intolerant and hate-filled than a leftist American liberal.

American Liberals are an elite academic cast who are capable only in performing in a snarky way what they call social justice and I am very disappointed that the level of intellectual depth in this thread, which is equivalent to that of someone like Samantha Bee on television. I am one of the intellectuals for Trump and like him I have liberal social policies and I believe in protection and prosperity and have seen nothing but failure in the Obama years.
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 22, 2016, 08:28:51 PM
These are good points, and I really appreciate you taking the time to post them.

For me, while I truly agree with you in so many ways, I think we have to expect that everyone who knows there's something wrong stand up a little taller than feels comfortable. At Brian's last Hollywood Bowl show, after multiple recent police shootings, I remember him closing with a Love & Mercy that featured the altered lyrics: "A lot of people out there gettin' shot and it really scares me". That was, by far, one of the most powerful moments I've ever heard him in concert. It wasn't overtly political in it's stance, but rather politically emotional, connecting to the feeling.

I don't need him to launch some crusade against Donald Trump, but if he can't weigh in on his legacy being used to normalize someone who talks about a Muslim registry becoming our leader, well that really scares me.

I don't begrudge others for not sharing that feeling, but that's how I feel.

If he stands up against it, I will continue to support his solo work. If he doesn't, then that's it for him too in my book. That's not something I say lightly. I went to his most recent Hollywood Bowl show, went to a screening of Love & Mercy where he spoke, got to ask him a question in the Q&A here, but if Mike goes through with it and Brian doesn't issue a statement saying he disagrees, I'll have to boycott him as well. In times like this, silence might not be approval, but it's the closest thing to it.

I LOVE The Beach Boys. Have bought 100s, maybe 1000s of dollars worth of albums, concert tickets, and merchandise.

Two days ago I was taking solace from the daily pain I feel from Trump's election by arranging all the song on every Beach Boys album in order of my love for it. The Beach Boys were the only thing that could ease my anxiety.

If they perform at the inauguration, I will never give them a dime ever again. I don't care if they find a vintage completed SMiLE, a 6 disc set of demos from the Bellagio studio, or if they reunite again to play a show at Paradise Cove, they will never get a cent out of me. Not even if they pass and it becomes simply their estate and just benefits their children.

They do this, and I'm through with them.

Surely this doesn't include solo Brian Wilson and all that?

Brian Wilson is the guy that loves everybody and it has shown through his actions as a person and as a songwriter. To completely disown the guy if he doesn't give a statement is overlooking not only Brian's beautiful contributions to the world, but his own personal struggles with speaking out and facing conflict.

Brian didn't cause this. I'm sure if Mike is actually serious about going on with this charade that the powers that be will put a rightful stop to it.

Boycotting the Beach Boys and Brian Wilson's MUSIC does a disservice to not only Brian but to future generations who could love that music. Imagine a world where everyone boycotted this beautiful music. Boycott the man responsible for this nonsense, not the people who have struggled since day one dealing with the man himself.

The music doesn't deserve that. All the work Brian has done to bring a ray of light into the world doesn't deserve that.
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 22, 2016, 05:56:04 PM
If he stands up against it, I will continue to support his solo work. If he doesn't, then that's it for him too in my book. That's not something I say lightly. I went to his most recent Hollywood Bowl show, went to a screening of Love & Mercy where he spoke, got to ask him a question in the Q&A here, but if Mike goes through with it and Brian doesn't issue a statement saying he disagrees, I'll have to boycott him as well. In times like this, silence might not be approval, but it's the closest thing to it.

I LOVE The Beach Boys. Have bought 100s, maybe 1000s of dollars worth of albums, concert tickets, and merchandise.

Two days ago I was taking solace from the daily pain I feel from Trump's election by arranging all the song on every Beach Boys album in order of my love for it. The Beach Boys were the only thing that could ease my anxiety.

If they perform at the inauguration, I will never give them a dime ever again. I don't care if they find a vintage completed SMiLE, a 6 disc set of demos from the Bellagio studio, or if they reunite again to play a show at Paradise Cove, they will never get a cent out of me. Not even if they pass and it becomes simply their estate and just benefits their children.

They do this, and I'm through with them.

Surely this doesn't include solo Brian Wilson and all that?
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Billboard: \ on: December 22, 2016, 05:21:43 PM
I LOVE The Beach Boys. Have bought 100s, maybe 1000s of dollars worth of albums, concert tickets, and merchandise.

Two days ago I was taking solace from the daily pain I feel from Trump's election by arranging all the song on every Beach Boys album in order of my love for it. The Beach Boys were the only thing that could ease my anxiety.

If they perform at the inauguration, I will never give them a dime ever again. I don't care if they find a vintage completed SMiLE, a 6 disc set of demos from the Bellagio studio, or if they reunite again to play a show at Paradise Cove, they will never get a cent out of me. Not even if they pass and it becomes simply their estate and just benefits their children.

They do this, and I'm through with them.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was there any evidence \ on: February 04, 2016, 11:56:26 AM
I'm sure I'm behind the times, perhaps a bit dense, but I think I finally get the title "Smiley Smile". I imagine everyone having such a bad bummer of a time trying to top Pet Sounds, top Good Vibrations and create this Smile masterpiece, when finally someone says something to the effect, "we're not even smiling anymore, how can we make an album called Smile!" So they put most of what they've got on a shelf and say, hey, let's put a happier process in place and see what we can make if we're actually having fun and smiling. "Let's make a more Smiley Smile"
37  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Come, my posse, let us convene... on: November 29, 2015, 12:25:39 PM
Must have missed something
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: November 20, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
WOW!!! What an exciting clarification on that! So glad you made that suggestion of the tag part and SO GLAD they made you sing it! It's fantastic!
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's band on: November 20, 2015, 01:55:01 PM
Thanks for the title change! Truly appreciated!
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's whore band on: November 20, 2015, 02:05:05 AM
Any chance we can change the title on this thread? I agree with you 100% that what the writer of the article wrote is way beyond appropriate, so it irks me to see that anywhere, and especially when I come to our little home on the internet to celebrate The Beach Boys. I still think it's a fine to topic to discuss, but seeing that phrase as the first thing when I check in is a bummer.
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: November 19, 2015, 12:07:55 AM
Mr. Desper,

Do you have any recollections of the composition/recording of the disco-esque tag to Spring's "Thinkin' Bout You Baby" that features Brian on vocals? It's one of my favorite Beach Boys related pieces of the 70's and wondered what you remember of it, and if you recall other pieces like that being tried/shelved?

(I looped up a segment of it for my personal extended enjoyment of its magic, that you can hear here: https://soundcloud.com/davesegal/spring-ooh-baby-loop-demo)
42  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: David Bowie's Best/Worst... on: November 18, 2015, 11:20:39 PM
Station to Station is my absolute favorite. A wonderfully warm soup of vintage disco-rock the likes of which I've had 0 success finding again.
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your SMiLE mix...for the fun of it on: November 04, 2015, 01:14:25 PM
5) He Gives Speeches, featuring the lyric "he fell into her friendly persuasion", is recorded the same day as the Good Vibrations "Persuasion" takes.

I've been thinking whether this lyric is a reference to the novel (and movie) "Friendly Persuasion" much of which is set on a farm in the old west.

The Four Aces cover of that movie's theme song. Prelude to Fade vibes ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YExBiSw1Zlo
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sunny Down Snuff and Stand or Fall recording dates on: November 02, 2015, 03:01:21 PM
What is the source for the December 1966 "Sunny Down Snuff" attempted recording for Heroes & Villains?
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: November 01, 2015, 02:10:39 AM
Is there a more specific time for the SMiLE Tracklist Memo than early December 1966?

When was Frank Holmes hired and given info on what album was intended to be?
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your SMiLE mix...for the fun of it on: October 20, 2015, 12:52:41 PM
- Both Anderle and Vosse discuss the Elements as a different song from Vega-Tables.  If they thought VT was part of the Elements, i find it odd they would talk about the songs in separate contexts.

Well there is the info from AGD that he was told The Elements would have featured a cross-fade at some point. Could make sense as a transition from the rest of the Elements to Vega-Tables. Granted he said it was an internal crossfade, but still.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The return of our Beach Boys-inspired haiku, limerick & palindrome TOME... on: October 20, 2015, 03:38:45 AM
Never heard of a word level palindrome, but:

Fun, Fun, Fun
Cindy Oh Cindy
Dance Dance Dance
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your SMiLE mix...for the fun of it on: October 20, 2015, 01:37:11 AM
2-any theories on He Gives Speeches? Where it might've fit before it was junked?

I'm not the first one to posit this, but the spot it makes the most sense to me is as an insert, tag, or followup for Wonderful based on:
1) it's similar style of lyrics (she belongs there, he gives speeches)
2) it's recording date coming after Wonderful
3) it's eventual repurposing in She's Going Bald, which also features a part that's somewhat similar to the Wonderful Version 2 tag (this one's a stretch)

I could also see it as a part of Old Master Painter based on:
1) The re-use of the backing vocal melody for the False Barnyard/Barnshine fade.

And maybe even as an alternate to Who Ran The Iron Horse in an early version of Cabin Essence based on:
1) Lyrical connections: "stepped across the golden fields"/"you'll find a meadow filled with grain there" (very tenuous, but possible)

I could actually imagine a version of Old Master Painter that goes Old Master Painter/You Are My Sunshine/Home On The Range/He Gives Speeches/Home On The Range/Barnshine. But then again, I can imagine a lot of versions of a lot of SMiLE tracks ....
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David marks on: October 19, 2015, 12:14:40 AM
Hoping for a quick and meaningful recovery!
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Surf's Up on: October 16, 2015, 04:00:20 PM
Middle.
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