Sorry my heads gone alittle

erm, has there been a fanmix of TSS with flown in isolated vocals/bv's from BWPS done?
if there is i'd love to hear it, is there one in stereo too?

thanking all the good work on here!

http://icreateification.blogspot.com/2011/11/smile-ad-stereo-mix.html

No Holidays?
great effort tho!

Sorry my heads gone alittle

erm, has there been a fanmix of TSS with flown in isolated vocals/bv's from BWPS done?
if there is i'd love to hear it, is there one in stereo too?

thanking all the good work on here!

Hello everyone

I love TSS, (glitches & all   ) , amazed we can listen to it like we can after all this time.
There's ONE thing that's bothered me alittle tho, & seems to be on almost EVERY Fan Version or Official Version.

It's after the last verse of the quiet 1st section, just where the loud 'band and vocals' come in next.
no matter where the joining edit of the 2 sections was placed i always felt like something was wrong, or something had been snipped early, or there was a tiny tiny bit chopped off the second part right at the entry.

it's always really bugged me, i had a suspicion that in the beginning of the loud 2nd section, someone had come in early by mistake - when this section loops itself & it comes up again, it isnt there then, its fine.

Well I've now found the complete entry for the louder section 2 bit HURRAH!!!!!!
and can now see someone comes in justa touch to soon on the low bvocal harmony?

i was listening to the 'Red Odeon ST-9002', on track 10 (out of 30) you can clearly hear on this mix that the low 'bom ba bom' bvocal part comes in a tiniest bit prematurely to all the other parts just on that 1st entry of the 1nd section - if you've got it it's just at 1.10 mins in.

Is there another recorded take of this louder 2nd section that is as good as, or as close to the take I'm referring to but doesn't have the fumble?

like i say after the initial entry point this fumble isn't repeated again.  I'm sure some mixes have the same 2nd part entry problem each time this section is used in the song.

help! am i going mad or has someone else noticed this?
please say yes and put my mind at rest

Great Effort

I love how parts of it (especially the vocals) seem to wrap around your ears like candyfloss round a stick

not too into what you've done with Gee, and a few other bits go a little too off and go round a little deviation, it's your mix tho so fair play to you
i do like 'DYLW's thats great especially from 1.08 onwards, that is the 1st candyfloss moment for me, 2:17 onwards does the same, reeeaalllly nice phat and hush/whisper, great timpani(?) sound.
Barnyard with piano in or not - that is the question these days. eitherway great work, bv's a tad too subtle maybe?
OMP/YAMS - drum bit just b4 the singin sounds alittle gated or alittle abrupt on the reverb?nice where the sax comes in, wanted more of this on my ears with this tune from the off really?
CabinEssence -seems to loose vol/impact alittle at 0.43, also would be nice more stereo on over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield
Look 1.51 a teeny too sharp as edit for me?
CIFOTM - nice spread at the beginning, nice sound/spread on the instruments after the vocals, good work
Surf's up - a colossal tune if ever there was, really nice version - undecided on the 71 coda, such a great song tho, that ending is sooooo good - candyfloss moment defo!nice right at the end the harmonising na naaa na na, nana naaa lower bv - great to hear this bit
VegaTables - is this a little quieter up to 1:25? maybe bring it up a notch on that section
Holiday's one song i sooo wish wouldv had lead vocals on. can imagine it with 60s BB singin ala windchimes style. if only....
windchimes - great sound on the wood block, i duno but every edit ive heard of this on the 1.20 mark has always seemd like its choppd a little midg's dick of vocal off right at its beginning, tho 2.16 doesnt seem to have it? wierd, could be my ears but that take its from, i always notice it on dif mixes people have done -  must to be due to the source
Elements - nice and deep, couldv gone more shrill/spikey sounding too on the top end instrumentwise, great piece of audio imagery this tune
Love to Say Da Da, another i'd have loved to hear with lead vocal on, reminds me of some of the 'today' album with it's unusual musical pauses

really impressive piece of work. great effort!

Wow, thanks for the detailed review! I'll definitely consider some of the comments for the revised mix (which I hope to finish soon).

no worries man, was a pleasure to listen to tbh. only felt compelled to do this on yours, PurpleChicks & Fast Eddies all those years ago
some great work in here, the fades work well by the way, considering you've done this for primarily for yourself (hence the bits like Gee) i really enjoyed how you've thought about it
the mixing tho is a nice piece of work - if you could do this to TSS Disk 1 (seems abit cheap to ask really but heyho) i would be eternaly grateful to you

bring on the revised mix! out of curiosity are there any new SMiLE Stereo mixes you've enjoyed yourself? there's some ineteresting stuff, and some poor stuff but be great to see where your heads at on these if youknowwhatimean....

Great Effort

I love how parts of it (especially the vocals) seem to wrap around your ears like candyfloss round a stick

not too into what you've done with Gee, and a few other bits go a little too off and go round a little deviation, it's your mix tho so fair play to you
i do like 'DYLW's thats great especially from 1.08 onwards, that is the 1st candyfloss moment for me, 2:17 onwards does the same, reeeaalllly nice phat and hush/whisper, great timpani(?) sound.
Barnyard with piano in or not - that is the question these days. eitherway great work, bv's a tad too subtle maybe?
OMP/YAMS - drum bit just b4 the singin sounds alittle gated or alittle abrupt on the reverb?nice where the sax comes in, wanted more of this on my ears with this tune from the off really?
CabinEssence -seems to loose vol/impact alittle at 0.43, also would be nice more stereo on over and over the crow cries uncover the cornfield
Look 1.51 a teeny too sharp as edit for me?
CIFOTM - nice spread at the beginning, nice sound/spread on the instruments after the vocals, good work
Surf's up - a colossal tune if ever there was, really nice version - undecided on the 71 coda, such a great song tho, that ending is sooooo good - candyfloss moment defo!nice right at the end the harmonising na naaa na na, nana naaa lower bv - great to hear this bit
VegaTables - is this a little quieter up to 1:25? maybe bring it up a notch on that section
Holiday's one song i sooo wish wouldv had lead vocals on. can imagine it with 60s BB singin ala windchimes style. if only....
windchimes - great sound on the wood block, i duno but every edit ive heard of this on the 1.20 mark has always seemd like its choppd a little midg's dick of vocal off right at its beginning, tho 2.16 doesnt seem to have it? wierd, could be my ears but that take its from, i always notice it on dif mixes people have done -  must to be due to the source
Elements - nice and deep, couldv gone more shrill/spikey sounding too on the top end instrumentwise, great piece of audio imagery this tune
Love to Say Da Da, another i'd have loved to hear with lead vocal on, reminds me of some of the 'today' album with it's unusual musical pauses

really impressive piece of work. great effort!

hmmm
one wonders what AGD thinks of this, surely an acknowledged improvement on TSS version?

I'm intrigued

I really don't think it's an improvement over TSS. The sound has obvious digital flubs in it. I LOVE the sound of TSS version (much like JMZs mix) - Brian's voice soars in it.

This is a great mix but it doesn't capture the power of Brian's voice - it diminishes it.

interesting point, it certainly exposes it more that's for sure,
maybe it needed doubling up/thickening a little & of course some nice reverb to let it synch in with the music more

Sorry, couldn't resist 

ha ha, neither could i
i'll check out the interview your referring to, i've not listened to it yet (been tinternetless recently)

Does anyone know what the initial tracklisting had been?

1. Shortenin Bread
2. Shortenin Bread
3. Shortenin Bread
4. Shortenin Bread
5. Shortenin Bread
6. Shortenin Bread
7. Shortenin Bread
8. Shortenin Bread
9. Shortenin Bread
10. Shortenin Bread
11. Shortenin Bread
12. Shortenin Bread
13. Shortenin Bread
14. Shortenin Bread
15. Shortenin Bread
16. Shortenin Bread
17. Shortenin Bread
18. Shortenin Bread
19. Shortenin Bread

Hi

Cheers for that, I've had a look and it just throws up this page ?!?
http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?action=search2

Hi

I don't think this has been posted, but apologies to everyone if it has.

I've read and heard a few dif threads saying the original track list for CD1 was altered with some songs moved at Brian's behest once he'd heard a playback
Does anyone know what the initial tracklisting had been?
i understand it was just a case of moving some tracks rather than the mixes is this right?

Thanks for your help, great boxset btw

Can someone explain to me what it means? 

I don't know what it means, it's not important, throw it away!

You Don't Like That Part Of The Song?

It's a reference to a 1976 VDP interview.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6JwCmTIEw[/color]]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB6JwCmTIEw

This is the kind of thing we say without thinking, knowing that everyone will understand. You're swimming with big fish here. 

Great Clip!!!
nice tache too

while we're on the subject, here's a new mix i made which combines the demo and the track, but keeps them mostly separate. I quite prefer it this way

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUeSFjzpFJ0

Nice.  I think that's the best way to approach this one.

defo good work, but the below has me sold and keeps in with TSS, as a brucey bonus it also neatly fits in place of TSS version

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php/topic,11714.0.html

hmmm
one wonders what AGD thinks of this, surely an acknowledged improvement on TSS version?

I'm intrigued

GREAT!!!!
Thank You Very much

 

I am twiddling my thumbs, desperately waiting for bruiteur to show up here again with what he said would be a cleaned-up second version of this already amazing job, as well as maybe his attempt at doing the same with IIGS. The wait is agonizing. 

same here!

Can't Wait Too Long

that should have defo been on, musical style, instrumentation, song structure etc really really echo the approach of SMiLE

Here's my sync of Love To Say Dada / In Blue Hawaii

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0ulMHBzd94

Bravo, Bravo

 

Great Stuff!

Everytime I hear this song, you know what I think about?

"You Know My Name (Look Up the Number)"


Am I alone?

I actually see what you mean. Pretty long song, with lots of different sections and repeating the same lyrics over and over again is that what you mean?

Exactly, that's what I'm talking about. 

i think the style of both is called modular music? might be wrong tho  ,
kinda like variations on a theme i think, i really like that kinda thing, reminds me of classical composition abit?

not too clued up on this side of things but i always thought CWTL and its modular arrangement/variations on a theme, fitted in well with SMiLE's musical style, a continued morphing/evloving of a theme into diferent directions so brings a little light dif notes/phrasings as it evolves?

or am i rambling rubbish?

either way, any other tunes like this id love to hear about them

[Incantations]

Yup, I'm a regular Mike Love, ain't I just ?  Big bad bully, harassing the poor helpless poster who cries because the discs are unlistenable. Know something ?

Don't care.  

Like I said, if the 'problems' were on a par with the glitch in Incantations, which sounded just like a skip, then I'd be more sympathetic but, as has been demonstrated by several other posters, they're all but, or totally, inaudible, even when listening 'seriously'. More disturbingly to me, the poster hasn't made any other comment. Nothing positive. Me, I'm inclining towards the notion that it's Cohen using an alias.  

Man, why edit your post to add that titbit - just leave it will ya, totally unnecessary and makes you look a bitch slighting someone cause
'hasn't made any other comment. Nothing positive. Me, I'm inclining towards the notion that it's Cohen using an alias.  '

have a word with yourself please and chill out, pathetic mate, i respect your comments but that is a low one and just fans the flames, it adds nothing positive at all to anyone, least of all you!

i used to read this site for good info, good fun, and minimal c*ck jockeys, sadly the latter is coming out alot in the last few days.
think i've said my piece a few times so will refrain, hope that goes for a few on eitherside of the fence on this topic

sheesh....

Yup, I'm a regular Mike Love, ain't I just ?  Big bad bully, harassing the poor helpless poster who cries because the discs are unlistenable. Know something ?

Don't care. 

haha - good bit of perspective...
i havent said it's unlistenable, quite the opposite, i know some have but hey let it be, Lets move on, accepct whats there, some people are p1ssed about it, some hear it an are abit dissapointed to but STILL think its a FANDABIDOSY boxset

  

Mark Linnett referred to it in the iconfetch interview, implying that certain choices had to be made and they decided that CWTL wasn't sufficiently Smile-related. I believe the main work on the long track dates from 1968 (the Carl vocal part from 1967 and Wild Honey era), so the conception of the song was well after Smile (unlike, say, Cool Water).

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
mustv missed that bit, it does make me think though, would pieces like this have comprised 1 of the mooted additional 2 cds we could have had?

i really dissaprove of the heavy handed comments/replies and vise versa re the 'sound glitches' on this site

sorry but i have to say this but AGD in particular is coming across as 'well i cant hear them so your extreme, petty, coming across as a bit of a jerk, hypothesizing on Mark thinkn 'what a prick' etc etc'' i mean come on its a bit pathetic, grow up everyone (i also mean both sides here too).
it leaves whoever that is aimed at nowhere to go except to defend themselves, which then seems to get your back up, which then gets their backs up... a cycle of oppression surely?

i think we should just accept that sadly there are glitchs that are audible to a few people 'i include myself here' which, lets be logical, if you can hear a glitch, it follows logically that it will reduce the listening experience to an extent, but how much that extent is defo subjective, as shown with the posts on here. Some engineers i know FREAK at hearing 10 Mhz bleed throughs in music for eg, it's what their paid to remove/reduce as part of their job so yeah i can see why itd be annoying to them tbh, sure it's an extreme view but i can see where their coming from viewing that profession

sure it's a great boxset AGD filled with fantastic music, i don't think anyone is disputing that, however, you read as somewhat totalitarian in dismissing/ridiculing issues of sound impairment that some feel COULD have been addressed/lessened before it's release - is that such a problem for all concerned?

taking a step back from this - considering these are the main talking points you've gotta think WOW they've done well if these are the main problems, but yep it's abit of a shame that they're there, and that some people with better equipement/trained ears/etc happen to notice these

Lets just move on and talk about fav tracks, best versions, and for me, why ''Can't wait too long'' isn't included (whimper whimper, I love that piece of music!!)

chillout and enjoy the boxset people

Kinda strange that "Three Blind Mice" makes TSS but not "Can't Wait Too Long".

It's similar to the "Wind Chimes" chorus. I don't know if I buy that it was derived directly from it (the chord progression is similar but not exactly the same, and we're talking three notes, here), but the fact that it's possible would've made it a good candidate for the box set.

Ah well, the set's good enough as is. Wild Honey box set plz?

 i had been hoping for both to be honest - pleased that 3 blind mice is on there though! wouldv been great to heard Can't wait too long as well
do you know much about this song? like you say it does have a passing resemblance note wise to elements of SMiLE

[Can't Wait Too Long]

HOwdo - hope everyones diggin TSS sessions

Can't Wait Too Long

although i THINK it's not a SMiLE era track, its soo similiar in instrumentation/vibe etc I was kinda hopin we'd have seen some of this on TSS aaaages ago when TSS was first being mooted

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Can%27t_Wait_Too_Long

got some info here on the tune but does anyone have any more info on this great peice of music?
ive heard upto and including Unsurpassed Masters Vol.17 but missed out on 18 & 19, 19 espcially as this has a few dif versions of this tune
why did it stay hidden/unreleased for so long?
does in have a missing main melody or other parts?

one of my 10 ten fav BB tunes, first heard it on the 2 fer 1 smileysmile cd, then on the GV Boxset - but thats it, (not including solo B.Wilson, just BB era)

thanks for your help

wierd the emotions in here tidied into 1st listens everyone's been getting

This is an incredible release, the music and general ambiance given is pretty magical.
It's definitely a great listening experience, but... like some people on here, i too can hear some glitches here and there
which is a shame, to qualify that comment tho, its not a massive ball breaker, and doesn't ruin the listening experience
its just unfortunate i can hear them a little, that's all really.

i think some people are going alittle emtional/OTT on whether its there or not, and if it ruins the listening or it or not. it's there, some notice it, but it's still a mega release! ideally the little blemish's wouldnt be as audible to peoplewith bat ears like myself  but its a minor minor thing for me,

i've just got the 2cd version, however have seen the clips of the boxset and all that and it looks an incredible piece of work.

interested to sample some hi quality home rolled in the coming months, is purple chick's SMiLE obsolete now?

[There's this one album, the name is fleeting me right now, but there is talking and hissing peppered throughout the entire album. I can't believe they released it like they did. Oh yeah, it was called Pet Sounds.]

There's this one album, the name is fleeting me right now, but there is talking and hissing peppered throughout the entire album. I can't believe they released it like they did. Oh yeah, it was called Pet Sounds.

Relatively speaking we are incredibly lucky to be hearing this set. We have room to criticize, obviously, but I wish some people would put a few hisses and pops in perspective.

***** turn on CBS right now!!!!!!! *******

^false alarm, stupid promo. But the SMiLE segment is coming up soon!

wasnt the first mix of pet sounds rejected due to its quality of mix, it was done again and was released as is?
anyhow - its a dif point, that wasa finished album, the technical glitchs mentioned here aint the same type as talking etc you mention on pet sounds

getting abit extreme in views on here for both sides i think
anyone saying TSS sounds bad or unlistenable due to glitches needs their heads testing, it sounds Amazing!!
however i'll qualify that by adding, had the glitches been removed/reduced with no impairment to the sound - then it'd been faultless sonically considering its an unfinished album - great production, but some glitches have slipped through unexpectedly