In all seriousness, this is the best news I’ve heard in a long time. Thank you, Howie.

Hey HeyJude,

Didn't someone in this thread say the main thing holding up "Feel Flows" is an issue with credits?  Or did I dream that?

Now if that's the case, then the credit situation has to worked out.  Or... the song, or songs, in question have to be excised from the set.

That brings us to speculation on why the credit situation is so hard to resolve.  I mean, are Mike or any other of the Beach Boys going to make more than a negligible amount by getting their names on some obscure track that is going to appear on this vanity/historical release?  Probably not.  So that should be easy to resolve.

However, if someone wants their credit changed on one or more of the main songs on the two albums, then perhaps they're asking for reimbursement of monies lost over the years?  Isn't that what Mike did before?  He sued and got Brian to pay him for royalties he was not paid over the years?

Am I getting close?


Love and merci,
Dan Lega

Nah, credits are not an issue. There's no dispute over songwriting or any other credits.

I don't think anybody has actually asserted that credits are an issue. I think someone at some point speculated if that might be the case. Either way, credits aren't at issue.

While it's understandable up to a point to find this concept confusing, it's important to remember that the compilation, mixing, mastering, artwork prep, etc. for this set were all run through the appropriate parties. Essentially, this set *was* given a green light at every step up until the finished product was ready for a release date to be set and manufacturing to begin. Knowing this might help folks to understand the things that would be very unlikely to be an issue. Things like track listing concerns, songwriting credits, liner notes disputes, all of that stuff would have been raised as an issue most likely prior to the set literally being ready to be sent to the printers/manufacturing plant. Obviously, anybody could dispute anything at any time, including disputing something they previously signed off on. But I don't believe that's the case with "Feel Flows."

A situation came into being, virtually unrelated to anything to do with the set, and it was and seemingly still is being used to decide to delay releasing the set. As I've previously said, this situation is a legit situation that would require appropriate attention, care, etc. I'm not even characterizing whether said situation is a good or a bad thing. It's just a thing/issue/occurrence, whatever you want to call it. That this situation is given serious attention is not unwarranted. What seems to have confused/stunned/frustrated folks is that *that* situation is being used as a reason to delay releasing "Feel Flows" when most people I think would see no reason that the set couldn't be released as per normal.

Perhaps it might be useful to put up some kind of FAQ on this project and everything we objectively know about it to be true.  If for the sole reason to curb all the speculation going on in this thread.  Seems in some cases we're all just talking past each other at this point.

The only thing I’m taking from all of this, is that the box isn’t coming out and the reason it isn’t coming out has nothing to do with the box  🤷‍♂️

Brian - 'I Just Wasn't Made For These Times' ( .. because never did quite fit in, but changed a lot of people's lives for the better).
Carl - 'Feel Flows' (.. because emotion just oozed from Carl when he sang).
Dennis - 'Fun, Fun, Fun' ( .. because: What else for Denny?).
Mike - '?' ( .. nothing comes to mind, at the mo').
Al - 'Sloop John B' ( .. because Al's Folkiness suited him. He could have had a separate career methinks).
Bruce - '?' ( .. as per Mike).

The isolated drum track from 'Its About Time'! Worthy of being put out officially 

Haven't been here in a loooong while. What's the etiquette in sharing Dropbox links? Is it frowned upon? Is it applauded?

If it involves sharing music, it's definitely frowned on and can (will?) result in banning. If t's sharing written documents/info, maybe okay.

As has been written here before on various threads, powers-that-be with BRI/Beach Boys, Brian Wilson, and other parties read these message boards. So, if anything is even borderline piracy-related, it could result in some type of action taken against the posters and/or the board itself.

Which is why I asked the question. Thanks for the clarification.

Haven't been here in a loooong while. What's the etiquette in sharing Dropbox links? Is it frowned upon? Is it applauded?

Quite recently, someone (here ? A.N. Other MB ?) delivered a 'translation' of the passage in question by taking the words in isolation and using a dictionary, ignoring all rules of grammar & syntax. If you juggled the word's multiple meanings enough, something vagely coherent emerges.

.. I think it was Kenny Mac, AGD.

Oh yes, my idiotic bootleg comment...
I wrote Mr. Boyd an email after that to excuse myself for this post.

Did you get a reply back, Jasper?

.. I'm with AGD.

I can't really get excited about that exclusive download. If it had been a Denny unreleased track or .. heck! .. something studio-based at the very least .. I might've done the do with Best Buy.

I'll just buy the regular edition when Woolworths get it for £6.99.

At the time they appeared, there were a few things not available on them; but now I've seen those other things appear elsewhere, so .. if you're a collector, you've probably got everything on these discs by now.

Were there 13 (!) CMYK releases made? Any chance of getting a complete discography of those titles? And were they all CDR's or factory made silver discs?

All the discs were cd-r's, no factory made silver discs.

The titles are:

Smiley Smile Sessions CMYK1971-84 (2 Disc set)
High On Hawaii CMYK1971-78 (2 Disc set)
Heroes And Villains Vol.1 CMYK1971-89
Heroes And Villains Vol.2 CMYK1971-101
The Secret SMiLE CMYK1971-104 (2 Disc set)
It's Not Easy Bein' Green CMYK1971-58
Get The Boot CMYK1971-94 (1 Disc) *I know there was a later 2 disc version made, btw*
The Ones You Can't Have Disc.1 CMYK1971-06
The Ones You Can't Have Disc.2 CMYK1971-07
The Ones You Can't Have Disc.3 CMYK1971-08
Psychedelic Sounds CMYK1971-100 (2 Disc set)
The Cocaine Sessions CMYK1971-44
Sea Of Tunes Source Tape CMYK1971-103

.. there could be more, but that's all that I acquired.

Hi, Alan.

Do you think that sometime soon, a boxset dedicated to all the 45's and E.P's ('A's & 'B's) that the 'boys put out in their career could be made available for retail or download?

I know a 6 disc ( .. or was it 5?) fanmade set made the rounds a few years ago, but I'd kill for an official box collection of all those lovely 45's.

All the best,
Yer 'umble servant,

Ken.

All the CMYK albums are fan releases ( .. the artwork is exceptional). I've got 13 of their releases. They were a fan-made effort and a labour of love. From what I can honestly remember, the 2 people who made these fan discs got threatened with legal action several years ago and did indeed .. cease and decist (spl). That's all I'm going to say on it ( .. as my memory can get a little cloudy), but just to let you know .. these discs weren't anything that I had a hand in whatsoever.

If you haven't already done so, put out a message to Bruce on the Beach Boys Britain 'board.

.. worth a go, I reckon.

.

I've got a homemade PDF file of that article somewhere 

Who wrote/sang Rubles? I've never heard of it.

I think it was Al Jardine.

.. AGD, have I remembered correctly?

I wonder who's going to be the narrator of this piece? Given that it's a commissioned work, it could be someone high-profile.

Hmmm .. I wonder if it'll be Stephen Kalinich.

I'm currently working on a double CD's worth of songs at this time.  We shall see if BRI can become interested enough to release on that label.

Hi, Mr.Desper.

Is it possible that you could (at this juncture) whet our appetites with a few of the song titles for that project?

Best wishes,
Ken.

Hi Ken

With Wild Situation, there's a backing track, Dennis with Backing track, backing vocals and backing track and both Dennis / bv's with track.

River Song - Dennis with Beach Boys bv's with track (well it doesn't have the gospel choir, and Carl's in the mix), live version, instrumental, and the original, I think! i may stand to be corrected...

There's 3 versions of Pacific Ocean Blue, 2 X Sound of Free, You Are So Beautiful live at Anaheim (better than the Knebworth version) 10,000 years, Holy Evening, Baby Blue & Love Surrounds Me early versions etc

I hope this is of some help.... 

Yep, thanks for filling me in .. I'd forgotten just how many times those songs had gotten around in their various forms. At least on this collection, everything's available in one place.

Thanks again, Zander,
Ken.

4 Versions of Wild Situation
At least 4 versions of River Song

.. more info, please 

Darryl Dragon, .. not sure about Ron.

I think the trouble is that they have no sense of objectivity regarding their unreleased material whatsoever.

They've been too close to the unreleased stuff for too long to form any opinion as to whether it's good, so-so or just plain crap.

Rant mode: off!

FRUSTRATING!!!

[Wild Honey]

According to the liner notes, this version was found on one of the Wild Honey session tapes, which shows the basic track was recorded 14th & 15th Oct. '67, with an instrumental section edited out of the 20/20 version.

So, I'm reading into that; that this version was a Wild Honey version and not a 20/20 one and was not tinkered with for Hawthorne, CA

I feel like I've been checking that site daily for 6 months. I hate to sound impatient but what's going on?!

I'm with you.

.. what's the hold up? .. or do I need to make an imaginative guess (not).