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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New article on my part in helping Brian leave Eugene Landy
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on: January 15, 2016, 07:10:27 PM
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If any of you have seen the Lucky Old Sun video, that was the most recent time that I have listened to Brian and his incredible band. The primary reason I haven't seen Brian and band is that my family and I are about 550 miles from the city where his recent tours have played. I love hearing. Brian and his band live, but family commitments have to be the first considerations that we consider. I'd go again if circumstances allowed it, but having retired, my financial income is not what it was. I worked with Capitol on the Smile box and with the wonderful folks who did Love and Mercy on their dvd/blue ray release of that movie. Those projects did not require travel,which I don't do because of family commitments. While I am thinking about it I want to thank Domenic Priore , Tom Recchion, Alan Boyd, and Melinda Wilson for including me in those projects
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New article on my part in helping Brian leave Eugene Landy
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on: January 12, 2016, 10:54:08 AM
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The development of therapeutic trust with someone like Brian is the necessary situation for any therapy to work. The trust, once established, has to be carefully maintained. The agenda is based on therapeutic goals and cannot proceed unless both parties are onboard. I do remember Brian being hospitalized during those years. If my memory is correct, these inpatient experiences were psychiatric in nature. Most inpatient care revolves around stabilization and medication review. Some inpatient psychiatric programs have group and individual therapy, but most of that is provided in outpatient services. The first therapist after Dr. Schwartz sadly bore the brunt of Brian's grief regarding the divorce and Dr. Schwartz 's sudden death.After placing his trust with Dr. Schwartz , Brian was wary of doing that again. That is very understandable. Separation from a trusted professional in what was to Brian his first risk to trust someone in years, there was genuine grief, and Brian understandably would be dealing with that grief with a new therapist. It is only human nature to avoid situations that could cause further grief.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New article on my part in helping Brian leave Eugene Landy
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on: January 11, 2016, 06:52:14 PM
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Hi MTG Great to hear from you! If you're the MTG from the Male Ego board it's great to have you here...Hello Mojoman3061, psychiatrists can write prescriptions for mental health concerns, although in smaller cities and rural areas (like here in Montana), prescriptions for mental health concerns are written by family physicians, internal medicine M.D.s, and even nurse practitioners and physician assistants under an M.D.'s supervision. With respect to Dr. Landy, there are psychiatrists who are attached to a clinical psychologist's practice.This was the case with Dr. Landy.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Record Collector
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on: December 31, 2015, 05:21:14 PM
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Congratulations on getting your article published....I hope people take the time to read it. I think that Mike is someone who desires his long period of service recognized. No one can make the claim that Mike can...55 continuously served years in the group...he's a lifer who enlisted in The Beach Boys. I would say that Brian's famous quote "I'm not a genius, I'm a hard working guy" also would apply to Mike. His voice is the most identifiable in a concert. He is a person who understands the value of easily understood lyrics. He should be recognized for all of these contributions. That said, the 1992 album is excrement. So much so that I will not have it in my collection.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Great Voices in Music
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on: December 27, 2015, 12:55:30 PM
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Paul Robeson, Maria Callas, Lowell George, Rosemary Clooney, Dinah Shore, Johnny Mathis, Placido Domingo, James Taylor, Carole King, Darlene Love, Richard Manuel,James Brown, Linda Ronstadt, Don Henley, Timothy Schmidt, Merle Haggard, Patsy Cline, Leadbelly, Tammy Wynette, George Jones, Anne Murray, Vince Gill, Patsy Cline, everyone in Los Lobos,Dolly Parton, Grace Slick, Peter Cetera, Danny Hutton, Chuck Negron,Aretha Franklin, The Jordanaires, TheGolden Gate Quartet, Sam Cooke,Pete Seeger
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Why do you hate Mike Love?
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on: December 23, 2015, 11:43:40 AM
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It is long past time to acknowledge that The Beach Boys are people. Furthermore, they are/were a family. Do any of you have family who you find "difficult?" I did.Hating is a word I reserve for people who commit extremely heinous acts. An example would be the man who blew up the Federal Office Building in Oklahoma City. Mike Love is the guy who has toured annually for 54 years, written some fine lyrics to Brian and Dennis's music, and has generally been polite and helpful to fans he encounters while touring. While it is easy to label any Beach Boy a nincompoop, be cognizant that these people called The Beach Boys are people first, and they read this board. Yes,he has been difficult at times, who on this board hasn't? The Beach Boys have been a fine addition to American Music,and I think it's time to treat them as such, All of Them.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin book about The Beach Boys?
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on: December 21, 2015, 04:11:26 PM
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There are a few things to pass along. I am a retired substance abuse counselor and my practice was people who were BOTH mentally ill and chemically and/or behaviorally dependent. My work history also contains a long period of service in behavioral therapy dealing with people with mental illness and developmental disability.
First, I appreciate the courage it took for Mr. Pamplin to post here. From hearing about Stan Love and Mr. Pamplin's time in the family circus that was The Beach Boys, I feel that hiring these men was setting them up for failure. They had no training in dealing with MH/AD patients, and asking them to prevent Brian, Carl, or Dennis from accessing mood altering chemicals or mood altering activities was either a naive or family secret protection decision.
Second, the Wilson family never had known what a life without chemical or behavioral dependence. This sad reality made it easy for behavioral dependence to take hold early. Brian' s was music, Dennis's was anti-social behavioral and sexual, and Carl's was overeating. Add in the parental alcohol and ACOA behavior, and it was as if the whole family had some sort of curse. This dependence and abusive environment led Brian into compulsive questing for musical perfection, Dennis's anti-social and sexual behavior, and Carl's overeating.
Third, there comes a time when the chemically or behaviorally dependent person's true personality is eclipsed by the addictive behavioral false personality, and the chemical or behaviorally dependent addiction no longer relieves the addict's anxiety, depression, or other form of mental illness.
Fourth, it is the family's desire not to be seen as an addictive family, because such a label leads to being treated as pitiable, insane, or otherwise not "normal." We Americans hate the stigma of being "not normal" more than almost any other label.
Fifth, due to the progressive nature of whatever form of chemical or behavioral dependence an individual may have, coping behavior eventually becomes aversive to the individual who used the behavior to escape their particular form of mental illness This statement is true of roughly 80% of dually diagnosed patients. So, while music was a way of diverting the horrible form of mental illness that Brian had in high school and post adolescence, it stopped blocking the aversive symptoms of the type of mental illnesses that Brian had. This began in 1967, and got progressively worse every year thereafter.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carol Kaye's BS
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on: December 20, 2015, 12:12:18 AM
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Ms. Kaye had to prove herself in a male dominated environment. There is no question that she played on sessions yielding hundreds of great recordings. I don't think that her memory is as functional as it once was. Despite the fiestiness that she has when people challenge her memory, I do not think she deliberately confabulates her history. As we get older, our memory is cloudy and our patience is shorter. She deserves the respect she demands, if only for the pioneering role she played in making female musicians a reality in the Sixties.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: The Worst albums of all time.
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on: December 08, 2015, 08:29:57 PM
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Across genres.....any Don Ho album, John & Yoko's Wedding Album, Little Joe Shaver and Devil Dog Play the Beach Boys Songbook, The World's Worst Records Album, The Temple city Kazoo Orchestra Play Led Zeppelin, Any Leonard Nimoy or William Shatner album, any Lawrence Welk album,most Donny & Marie albums, I could go on...but you see what I mean
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Good News question
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on: December 08, 2015, 08:00:37 PM
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I would approach the tune from 1967 with an open mind. It would be to entertain both possibilities, bearing in mind that the third possibility is that it could be a working title for another song which was finished with a change of title. All three possibilities are plausible.
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Billy C. appreciation thread
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on: November 29, 2015, 05:42:05 PM
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Billy, there are no words that can express the loss you and your wife have had. I lost a son in utero several years ago, and the pain comes roaring back even now and every time it comes into my conscious mind. I extend my support and sorrow for your loss. Grief is a process, and there will not be a.magic time when the pain ends. The pain will comes less often over time, but the acute nature of it will always be there. Allow yourself and your wife to express the feelings you have, and support each other through touch, active listening, and talking out your feelings. I was blessed to have a son late in life, but he is not a replacement for my son we lost.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Specifics on Brian's extraction from Landy
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on: November 27, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
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If television does a piece on Dr. Landy, I hope they speak with the folks who saw Brian from 1985 onward, as the last several years were focused on maintaining a tie to Brian rather than anything truly therapeutic. That period appears to me to have begun shortly after Brian and his numerous"helpers" got back from the first trip to Hawaii. It is not surprising that this happened. Landy had his hands deep into other celebrities' wallets and lives. I wish Landy had sought outside medical advice from somewhere like UCLA Medical School. Landy's ego stopped him from doing so.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's band
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on: November 26, 2015, 02:54:27 PM
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This thread has some disturbing posts that detract from a civilized exchange of ideas. Terming the musicians who play in Mike's band as Mike's whores is disrespectful in and of itself. The men who play for either Brian or Mike's bands are people who love BEACH BOYS music. The ongoing gotcha attitudes of board members who like one band or the other, in essence "counting coup" on people who have differing ideas for the sake of f*cking up a thread is simply bad manners. If this behavioral pattern of posting is continued,it is disrespectful of all Beach Boys. Say whatever you like,but say it in a manner that is respectful of everyone's feelings. When I managed a home with mentally ill teenagers, our central rule was The Thumper Theorem...
it applies here just as well
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