No "Christmas Day" or "Santa's Beard". That release can't be taken seriously

Both are on it

Neither are on it. https://open.spotify.com/album/2OPcDyBFhaPjzURWXpNEJA?si=HU8BEcXqTgeF4c2cQaQ8-A

"Speculation." My guess is December 16, based on the "November 16" date that was on that AllMusic site...probably meant December.

It must come out on a Friday, so that leaves either December 18 or December 25.

I remember being at a live Q&A with Brian where he said he'd never heard POB before. I think it's kinda cool that whoever is typing for him is writing exactly what he says.

I wouldn't be surprised if Brian typed everything.

I’m pretty sure on previous Q&As Brian speaks the answer and someone types it for him. Probably a lot faster that way.

Yep, that's how they've confirmed they do it. Same thing happened this time around.

Still on YouTube. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6570o9dAr4Q

And now gone from youtube too!

Edit: now here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KZcSn-Ybjw

Can Capital please relax. The fans are doing a better job promoting this thing than they are

Capitol doesn't have anything to do with that vid being moved. And this is still up: https://web.archive.org/web/20201122125851/https://www.allmusic.com/album/1970-release-mw0003450792?fbclid=IwAR3TNzgjItMq5P_bkni9f15VsqFD6Z24FsRpoqOq8fO-iNhx5l7p-9BRYg8

One thing that is interesting about this 1970 release (samples) is that the only song I have not previously heard here is You Never Give Me Your Money. There is no other "outtake" here which has remained out of public hearing.

There are 2 possibilities:

1. The tapes from this year (1970) have been mined/leaked to such an extent that there is not a single song that we didn't know about still in the archives.

2. There will still have to be a small copyright dump prior to Christmas to protect a few other things.

Any thoughts?

There's another possibility: The vast majority of the beach boys' recordings in 1969-1971 are well documented and have already been heard. The band released what they felt was the best stuff from this era on Sunflower and Surf's Up, then again on various albums throughout the 70s, then even more so on box sets and compilations throughout the years. Think about how much stuff from this era was later released or bootlegged. HELP, Games Two Can Play, I Just Got My Pay, Soulful Old Man Sunshine, San Miguel, My Solution, Big Sur, Where is She, Loop de Loop, Good Time, When Girls Get Together, Seasons in the Sun, Back Home (various versions), Sweet and Bitter, Big Sur, 4th of July, Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again, Barbara, and I still probably haven't named them all. This isn't even considering anything that was released at the time. Even then, there are other things here that some of us have heard, like Happy Birthday Brian and Til I Die demo, but that have not been widely bootlegged. I highly doubt there are any huge surprises waiting for us like there were on the 1968 sets. The Friends / 2020 era wasn't really mined like the Sunflower / Surf's Up era was, probably because the songs from that period that showed up on the 2018 releases were mostly unfinished. I also don't see the purpose of this release if they are going to need yet another pre-Feel Flows digital EP for other completely unheard and unknown songs.

Not wanting to create a fight here, but I'd say you've merely described in detail my no.1 above, which I described in brief.

Oh perfect, I must've misread. I think that has to be the case - surely if they had found unheard tracks from 1970, they would've been included here, as all the significant unreleased 1970 tracks are included as completed versions (Big Sur, My Solution, Seasons in the Sun).

... what if this "samples" release *is* the copyright dump release? i.e., only the samples ... which if I understand correctly, would protect the copyrights.

Ding ding ding. That’s making the most sense to me right now.

I've said this elsewhere, but why would they put in effort to include a ton of alternates of released songs from both albums, plus material from 1969 and 1971? Realistically, they only needed to upload 2-3 of these (or maybe 4) in order to protect the copyright.

Short playlists disguised as new releases are becoming a thing now. Who knows why. Check out the beatles and Paul McCartney on spotify, too.

One thing that is interesting about this 1970 release (samples) is that the only song I have not previously heard here is You Never Give Me Your Money. There is no other "outtake" here which has remained out of public hearing.

There are 2 possibilities:

1. The tapes from this year (1970) have been mined/leaked to such an extent that there is not a single song that we didn't know about still in the archives.

2. There will still have to be a small copyright dump prior to Christmas to protect a few other things.

Any thoughts?

There's another possibility: The vast majority of the beach boys' recordings in 1969-1971 are well documented and have already been heard. The band released what they felt was the best stuff from this era on Sunflower and Surf's Up, then again on various albums throughout the 70s, then even more so on box sets and compilations throughout the years. Think about how much stuff from this era was later released or bootlegged. HELP, Games Two Can Play, I Just Got My Pay, Soulful Old Man Sunshine, San Miguel, My Solution, Big Sur, Where is She, Loop de Loop, Good Time, When Girls Get Together, Seasons in the Sun, Back Home (various versions), Sweet and Bitter, Big Sur, 4th of July, Wouldn't It Be Nice to Live Again, Barbara, and I still probably haven't named them all. This isn't even considering anything that was released at the time. Even then, there are other things here that some of us have heard, like Happy Birthday Brian and Til I Die demo, but that have not been widely bootlegged. I highly doubt there are any huge surprises waiting for us like there were on the 1968 sets. The Friends / 2020 era wasn't really mined like the Sunflower / Surf's Up era was, probably because the songs from that period that showed up on the 2018 releases were mostly unfinished. I also don't see the purpose of this release if they are going to need yet another pre-Feel Flows digital EP for other completely unheard and unknown songs.

Would be great if Howie or somebody in the know could tell us what the Allmusic release actually is

It's most likely the projected tracklist for Feel Flows as it's highly doubtful that this is a separate project.  Although that would be pretty sweet.  

This is almost certainly a separate release to the 5 disc set we were initially told about... considering:

1) It's not called Feel Flows (confirmed title of the box set)
2) We were told Feel Flows would feature a full concert recording (definitely the Big Sur concert, only Riot is included here, and Aren't You Glad was released on Sunshine Tomorrow)
3) There is only one Dennis track included out of the 25 or so minutes that Howie mentioned
4) This is only 64 tracks, ~180 minutes of audio. This can fit on 3 CDs; surely they weren't planning on spreading it out to 5 CDs with about 13 tracks on each disc.

My theory is that this is a digital only release that's being released for two reasons:

-to preserve copyright for the 1970 tracks that are included
-to act as a teaser to a bigger box set (hopefully!!!) as almost all of this 1969-1971 material does not need to be released in 2020 for legal reasons.

Hey guys, what show / year do you think this is from?

https://youtu.be/rimKDkeAeT4


Do you think it sounds 1970-1971ish?

Filmore East 1971. It's a radio broadcast which is why random people can put it on their random albums.

And now the video is gone.  🤷‍♂️

It was never up in the US if that's where you're from. These random radio releases happen at totally random times in totally random countries. Has nothing to do with Feel Flows anyway.

It appears Scott has suffered some sort of arm/wrist injury. I wonder who will play all the leads or if the few dates left will be cancelled.

Who was singing the first verse of Sloop in that recording? Christian?

That's Scott Totten, although I bet Christian will sing it at the upcoming show now.

This was found out a few pages back. Here's the list of songs that have been discovered that way:

Surf’s Up (Brian Wilson Lead Vocal 2019 Mix)
Forever (2019 A Cappella Mix)
Cotton Fields (The Cotton Song) (A Capella)
Slip On Through (Alternate 1969 Mix With Session Intro)
Add Some Music To Your Day (Alternate Version)
Add Some Music To Your Day (A Capella)
‘Til I Die (Piano Demo)
Our Sweet Love (Track & Backing Vocals Mix)
This Whole World (Long Version & Backing Vocals Mix)
Tears In The Morning (Track & Backing Vocals)
I Just Got My Pay (2019 Mix)
Susie Cincinnati (2019 Mix)
Good Time (2019 Mix)
Take A Load Off Your Feet (Alternate Vocals Mix)
Back Home (Demo)
Cool, Cool Water (Alternate 2019 Mix)
Seasons In The Sun
Big Sur
‘Til I Die
H.E.L.P. Is On The Way (2019 Mix)
Student Demonstration Time (Track & Backing Vocals)
Student Demonstration Time
Sound Of Free (1970 Single Mix, 2019 Master)
My Solution (Track & Backing Vocals)
Long Promised Road (Track & Background Vocal Mix)
Medley: All Of My Love/Ecology
Medley: Happy Birthday, Brian/God Only Knows

To anyone who listened - did they perform "Drive-In"? According to setlist.fm they didn't. That seems crazy to me. You'd think that be automatic!

Disappointingly, they did not. Didn't even play In the Parkin' Lot either!

The version on the 2006 40th anniversary CD is 3:34 and contains some isolated backing vocals from Wouldn't It Be Nice as a bonus track. Hope that helps.

On some compilations, that guitar intro in the mono mix does get cut off, but it's there on the original single + other comps.

Playing the drums left handed is common among drummers who are self taught. The hi-hat is on the left, so it makes more sense for those who are new to the kit to play it with the left hand. Dennis always switched to right handed drumming when he used the ride, and all his fills lead with the right.

Thinkin' Bout You Baby by Sharon Marie also has some strings, I suppose that would be Brian's first string arrangement?

On the covers and 'lonely in the night I feel' - that lyric shows up on every single lyrics site. Once someone posts the lyrics somewhere for the first time, they end up on every site with all the same errors. Similarly, "she's goin' bald" is the line written on every lyric site for Mike's first bass part in SGB, when listening to the song clearly reveals he's singing 'she was kinda nutty.'

The line here starts before the word 'lonely' and continues for two more measures, and 'lonely in the night I feel' wouldn't even make sense in the context of the song. It's just something someone heard that got repeated, since it's clearly very hard to tell what's being sung here.

This is definitely subjective to a point since the vocal is so heavily processed and not very high in the mix, but I think we do have to use a degree of logic too. Chances are the lyric forms a coherent sentence (this was generally their preference, even when writing counterpoint lines that were to be less audible), and chances are it matches the overall sentiment of the song.

A side question worth discussion - was this a Brian vocal arrangement or did he just sing his parts then split, with Carl figuring out the counter melodies?

It sounds like a Brian vocal arrangement, and all 5 are singing on the same track here, probably at the same time - Bruce is singing the "all I wanna do" line, Brian's doing a high falsetto, Al is singing the midrange "do do do do" part, Mike is singing the bass vocal, and Carl's singing this line.

After listening again I think the first line is "When you get lonely every time I've come". I no longer think it has anything to do with "night".

The th sound in the sounds pretty clear to me and I'm not really hearing a v sound anywhere in there.. and there are still 4-5 syllables after the melody that would match those words

What a terrible opinion

To make it clear, this is what I'm hearing from Carl:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1tEcsst0coh1pAPM2NclXDb0_K1kfJNYV/view?usp=sharing

I still hear....Lonely in the night, I feel.

It sounds like a call response with Brian singing "all I wanna do"
And Carl responds "lonely in the night, i feel"

The "I" in "I feel" is sustained a bit.

If you focus on Carl's voice before "lonely in the night" you can tell he's singing a couple words to the same melody as "sure as the SUN will come around again..." so, C4 A3 C4 before the words "lonely in the night"

I'm sticking to my theory of "If you get lonely in the night I'd wanna be with you"... I can't hear anything other than "if you get" at the start, and I don't hear a hard c sound after "lonely in the night"

Or, “my love is burning in the night light”

I think you're confusing all the different vocal parts for one line: Mike and Brian are singing "my love is burning brightly, like moon and stars shine nightly" while Bruce sings "all I wanna do" and Carl sings his line (with other wordless parts from Al, Brian and Mike). Salty isolated that part and I'm pretty sure the line is "if you get lonely in the night I'd wanna be with you." Try listening to just the left channel and focusing on Carl's voice.