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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 23, 2020, 12:11:05 PM
Clearly someone is finding a way to preview portions of FEEL FLOWS via this YouTube mechanism.

Can POOPS/HUBBA HUBBA be far behind??

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition! (Not meant literally, of course...!)  police

2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Great YouTube Review Channel on: October 22, 2020, 02:29:09 PM
I enjoyed his 15 most underrated/overlooked tracks--a lot of very astute choices there. Would like to see him put those into some kind of listening sequence, though--could be an interesting challenge!

Spoilers below, so if you haven't watched the video and want to experience his list as it is revealed, stop reading here.

15. Heads You Win, Tails I Lose
14. Make It Big
13. Had to Phone Ya
12. My Diane
11. Custom Machine

10. Your Summer Dream
9. A Thing or Two
8. With Me Tonight
7. Lonely Sea
6. Airplane

5. Where I Belong
4. Goin' On
3. At My Window
2. Only With You
1. From There to Back Again

Those of you reading here at this point might want to take a crack at putting these in a listening order (as opposed to "correcting" Giggens: after all, everyone is entitled to their own "15 most overlooked/underrated" list and you are free to post those lists somewhere else...

There's a way to maybe link the "love songs" together to get one "side" of an LP from it, but ordering the balance of the tracks could be tricky.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Trump fundraiser in Orange County featuring Mike and 'The Beach Boys' on: October 22, 2020, 07:13:24 AM
For God's sake, Marty, the gloves come off "politics" here when a member of the band brings them out into the open like a bleeding wound.

Even "Mr. Suppressive Personality" over at "the nearest faraway place" is hanging his head in shame at Mike's latest antics.

There are times when the "taboo" on such a topic cannot help but be suspended, and this is clearly one of them. If you find that unacceptable, just recuse yourself from the thread.

And kindly note that this is the first and only time that your friendly "FREE FEEL FLOWS!" rabble rouser is posting in this thread.

4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 20, 2020, 05:40:14 PM
Just my own feeling but wouldnít leaking the track set publicly be a breach of confidentiality and possibly endanger the set further and burn bridges in the process?

I have the same feeling.
I still think the best solution is to convince these guys (especially that person who wants to remove Dennis songs from the set) to clear their minds, and try to push hard for this material to be released, even talking about more sales/more money (and thatís somebody motivation for all he does) it would generate if these songs are gonna be included.
And if itís not enough, so maybe itís better to cancel the damm thing and release it digitally.
Maybe itís better than release a set without Dennis tracks only to satisfy some jealousy attitudes/wishes/demanding of this person.

Respectfully disagree. The media will control this and drive the band's response once that original track list is out in public view. The only move that could save face would be to release it as originally conceived, otherwise the band sinks further into the morass of the "fractured" meme that is now around their neck. Without a release of this material, they would be subject to a public humiliation.

The "mob wife" approach is to just do nothing and wait for the day when we can "love" again, except that if you watch THE SOPRANOS you see that it's just a variant of the circular firing squad.

We don't need any more mob wives, we need a Daniel Ellsberg.

Now, of course, there's nothing to prevent the group from compromising and removing Dennis' material, but they will take a hit if they do so, particularly when it's public knowledge that they decided to remove it for no good reason except to placate a certain someone AGAIN.

If I were working with Brian and Al and Carl's estate I'd be on the phone RIGHT NOW saying that you need to figure out a way to release this to stop the bleeding that's coming your way through no real fault of your own, but because the Lovester is still out of control. Releasing FEEL FLOWS is now in a position to help stop the bleeding.

5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 20, 2020, 11:07:04 AM
I would say all bets are off right now, as the political thing points up the fact that Mike is operating as if he is completely independent of the group.

The problem is, in terms of the history of the band as even the "mob wife" contingent over at "the nearest faraway place" sees it--hell, they actually had a very good thread there about the Holland years, which at least by implication suggests that the 67-73 period is highly regarded by a majority of "embedded" BB fans--if this set doesn't come out, it becomes a victory for those who want to push the pre-'66 material as the only thing that matters.

That's why the full track list needs to be leaked NOW, in order to capitalize on what is now once again in the public eye--the ongoing fracture in the band regarding its own identity. It's a perfect story for this moment in 20/20.

As much as I sympathize with those who suffered through the process of creating the set, I think the chances of creating a big enough public cause celebre about the situation will be squandered without someone stepping up to the plate and handing over that track list to the media.

6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 12, 2020, 06:40:58 PM
Nice to see that Cam Mott signed the petition.

As always, thanks to Howie and Jon for their incredible efforts. I now call on some misterioso computer wizard to hack into Mr. Suppressive Personality's computer and liberate the FEEL FLOWS track list. Better slip it off onto a zip drive lickety-split, Doe-Boy!!  LOL
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Murry Wilson LP on: October 12, 2020, 06:34:10 PM
Bought it--looking forward to it! I love labors of love, and we all know Murry can use all the love he can get!

Thanks for such diligence and dedication--but don't forget that you might get visited by the ghost of Murry demanding his royalties!!  LOL
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 12, 2020, 02:11:12 PM

There are a THOUSAND political and personal issues within the band when it comes to this period of the band's history and their music. For that matter, those politics and the aforementioned "circular firing squad" are potentially *always* at play, even when it's about putting out a greatest hits compilation.

If you think the *only* issue or feeling Mike (or other members) would have about that era of material is simply that the band "was promoted poorly", then I would suggest more research and reading. No, of course it's not as simple as so-and-so just *hates* all of the material from a given era (well, that's true in some cases, but not in the case of 67-73 material). But there are a myriad of personal and business machinations involved, far beyond "well, I love the material, it's just a shame it wasn't promoted better!"

Anybody that has studied this and and its history knows the band's attitude towards archival projects, and should understand how lucky we are that there is an archival team pushing for this stuff behind the scenes, because these "copyright extension" sets being signed off on is in NO WAY evidence of an active championing of the material by some if not most members, and certainly is in no way evidence of what might happen with subsequent sets.

Well said, Jude. The preponderance of the evidence suggests that the litigious one is mucking around in the bulrushes again. It's frustrating to me, though, that we don't have a Dr. Ellsberg (as opposed to a Dr. Landy) to "take one for the team" and reveal just what was put together for FEEL FLOWS. Knowing those who've worked on these sets, I can understand their reluctance: getting on the inside of this band is a big deal, even in its twilight phase, and to be ostracized forever if revealed as the source of the leak would be a tough cross to bear...

...but I really believe that someone is going to have to swallow hard and do just that in order to get more clarity into the situation.

Most of us are operating completely in the dark on this, and what's infuriating is knowing that there are certain *sshats over in the Land of Nod who know exactly what is going on and are playing games not only with us, but with their fellow Nodders. Mr. Suppressive Personality needs to look in the mirror when he quotes David Leaf about the "band getting the fans they deserve"--for all of his long-term efforts and his (purported) drive for "objective knowledge," he has long ago morphed into a shameless Lovester lapdog whose net worth to the band as a whole went into the red well before he was rightfully booted out of here.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys' Personal Appearances, 1961-1963 on: October 11, 2020, 03:05:50 PM
Absolutely SUPERB work Jim--those photos and clippings are priceless, and this is such a wonderful addition to the narrative in the book. Bravo!
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 10, 2020, 08:08:46 PM
Jiggy over at the other place surmises that we will have a copyright dump at the end of the year, and the FEEL FLOWS package will get released as currently configured around the time of the 50 anniversary of the SURF's UP LP (late August '21). Manning was slogging us for what he claims will be eight more months of fine whinery...but it's actually ten months until that date, and the folks on the inside have the ability to assist us in a decrescendo on this subject by simply addressing what the freak is going on.

Those who appear to know something more about all this should feel free to weigh in... the meantime, the current FEEE FLOWS track listing is still the best way to give those folk with more influence something to work with. I urge any of those who are privy to that information to make it publicly available. We can't rely on Stamos...we need a shoe to drop.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 09, 2020, 10:44:53 PM
All of the reasoning about Dennis' material in this time frame "not being BBs music" ignores the fact that some of it originally intended for his original solo project wound up being released on BB albums. Using that logic, a song such as "My Solution" shouldn't be included, either, since Brian eventually reworked it into "Happy Days" on IMAGINATION.

Given the complicated relationship of Dennis' material as it relates to the band, it makes a good bit more sense in 2020 to include it as part of a compilation like FEEL FLOWS in order to fully document the creative atmosphere of the band members during the 1969-71 time frame.

That's a point that should also be made publicly by anyone writing about the current situation. It makes the public disclosure of the track listing for FEEL FLOWS that much more imperative, in order to demonstrate exactly what might be vulnerable as a result of this faulty, selective reasoning.

12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 08, 2020, 09:06:26 AM
This box set really could have been the one shining light in this otherwise god awful year

If FEEL FLOWS manages to be released on Carl's birthday, it will be for BB fans a lot like what Apollo 8 was for those who lived through 1968--a moment of healing that helped make it possible to keep "Goin' On." Hope springs eternal for a better world, and it would be a better world with this box set available for all to enjoy.

Not to tell Joel G. what to write in his updates...  Smokin ...but finding a way to convey that emotion--the special essence that sets BBs music apart from everyone else--is something that might connect in that way, particularly if people will post it all over social media.

We really have to try everything we can think of in order to help move the needle on this, folks...

13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 07, 2020, 12:15:55 PM
The only wrong thing that anyone can do in a public setting would be to point fingers, even if we are 95+% certain who is the instigator of this situation. (Note: SS and other boards are only semi-public settings, since no band members participate directly except in the rarest of cases.)

Here's a question: many folks from other BB and BB-related boards have followed up by signing the petition and/or placing notes on social media? If a sizable portion of the folks who spend a good bit of their time with the BB's music aren't willing to do even that, then they are failing to follow Emdeeh's suggested strategy. It would be akin to  American fans not voting in the upcoming election.

Having chosen to cut ties with those folk who left SS, I am 100% the wrong person to answer such a question, but several folks here could probably come up with a credible estimate on the percentage of "passive" fans. Heck, we really don't know if we've manage to maximize the petition participation from those who post and lurk on SS...

In the light of all that,  those folks who are ultra-passionate about this situation should press further, but within prescribed limits of respect and decorum. That should not preclude making it clear, as Jude says, that we know now that "something strange is up" regarding this release being caught in an odd kind of crossfire. Urging the band to resolve this matter so that the release can proceed as planned is not stepping over any line--it's a good bit less interventionist than suggesting the track listing be leaked. Assuming that Jude's description is accurate, such a revelation would not address the actual issue that's responsible for the hold-up.

That said, I still think the track listing should be leaked, because it will galvanize a sub-set of fans who've be reluctant to engage with the situation. Once they see exactly what is at stake, they'll be more inclined to jump in.

14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: October 07, 2020, 05:38:59 AM
Jude's still-cryptic revelations strongly suggest that initial speculations about the hold-up of FEEL FLOWS made many pages back in this thread were on the money, both figuratively and literally.

Of course it's both a shame and a sham if a set such as FEEL FLOWS has been held hostage to any other demands that purportedly aggrieved parties may be making.

I'd suggest that those who are directly engaging with social media outlets take an approach that references these scenarios in what they post; something on the order of "Can you please confirm the information trickling out that strongly suggests that FEEL FLOWS is being held hostage to some other set of internal issues that have nothing to do with the music itself? Making this situation clear to the public is one of the best ways to apply pressure to those who've made FEEL FLOWS into "only a pawn in the(ir) game."

Also it would be useful if our experts here could weigh in on what they think the "drop dead date" is for putting the physical box set into production in order to meet a December 31 deadline (thus covering the copyright issues).

We also need to dig into the reports that the set might be broken up, which doesn't track with the more recent notions about it being hostaged to some unrelated corporate wrangling. Social messages should also address that issue and strongly advise against such occurring, indicating that the fan base is not going to be nearly as responsive to piecemeal releases of this material when a more comprehensive approach had been undertaken and signed off on by the principals.

Even though there is much else going on in the fraught world of the USA, we need to keep the pressure on in order to save America's band from going under the waves AGAIN.

15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sail Plane Song (2012 version) appreciation thread on: October 03, 2020, 03:19:20 PM
C'mon, Mr. Positive Man, slap it back up onto YouTube so we can all get a chance to download it!!  Smokin
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 30, 2020, 03:21:44 PM
If there is a vaild reason for the 180 on FEEL FLOWS, it would be a simple matter for the band to explain it to people. (That hasn't happened, of course.)

The "mob wife" contingent might get their noses out of joint about my assertion, of course, insisting that the band can do whatever it wants without telling anyone anything, but such a stance suggests that the Big Mob Wife (aka Mr. Suppressive Personality) actually KNOWS what's going down (and who is respnsible, and why) and is playing another weird psychological game over in St. Elba-land.

Since Brian gave extensive interviews for FEEL FLOWS, the chance that Melinda is now vetoing it is less than minuscule. What is hard to figure, however, is exactly why such a stealthy approach to this situation seems to be needed from those on the inside.

All of the above can simply be set aside, however--in the absence of concrete knowledge, all we can really do is continue to press for further info, continue to encourage the parties to resolve their differences and release FEEL FLOWS as originally conceived, and in the absence of movement on those fronts, continue to call for someone on the inside to leak the contents of the box set to the rock press in order to apply sufficient pressure to bring the matter fully into the light of day.

Some additional Facebook posts that respectfully ask about the status of FEEL FLOWS on pages where they are likely to at least be allowed to remain visible (if not answered) would also seem to be in order.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 28, 2020, 02:28:24 PM

It's fascinating that once every ten pages or so someone new to the conversation seems to pop up out of nowhere, pronounce the "ridiculous" nature of elements of the discussion, and sit back and fold their arms like they have it all figured out.

If you think this set is about throwing a 5-CD box at the head of someone with no interest in the band at all, you're missing the point.

For the MILLIONTH time, *everybody* involved with this set has a good idea about how many copies it can sell.

The *recognition* issue is about getting Rolling Stone and other print and online media to cover a RENEWED look at this amazing material. Some casual music fans and casual BB fans will learn more about it, and they'll have a MILLION ways to delve into the material further. This includes buying a 5-CD set, but it also involves just buying "Sunflower" or "Surf's Up", or sampling tracks to purchase or stream.

That is the issue, absolutely. And that is why a track listing for FEEL FLOWS needs to at least be leaked to the media (though I'm sure everyone who's posted in this thread, for better or worse, would like to see it). I feel for Howie in so many ways--what an impossibly frustrating position to be put into--but he or someone with that info really needs to get it into the hands of those who can give it the type of coverage that will blow the lid off things. He's taken a step in that direction here, but someone needs to walk all the way down the stairs and out the door into the full light of day on this.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 27, 2020, 12:57:14 PM
Howie and Jon, it's always great to see you guys here--thanks for speaking up and bringing some new wrinkles to all of our Buddha brows...

And Joel G., I think I can speak for most of us in hoping that you will take careful note of the factual and interpretive updates provided here and will find a way to incoporate that into your next article.

I still think a complete track list of FEEL FLOWS as it was signed off on should be put into the hands of the rock press, but it appears that we will have to take a "two-step side-step" approach to that. Given that it appears we must proceed that way in terms laying this out for the media, one or two more tidbits about unreleased work from other band members might supply the needed grease to get a "full-court press" up to speed next month to keep the pathway open for a December FEEL FLOWS release. We still need to escalate the attention being paid to this, so the word to those of you active on social media is definitely "don't back down." Let's use every tidbit to any possible advantage...
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 20, 2020, 01:43:41 PM
Of course it is not about the % of signees who will actually buy. It's about generating and expanding awareness of this situation and having a strategy to apply whatever pressure is possible upon those who are holding this up.

It's fine to have tangents in the thread, it's just important that they don't circle back to other tangents that have already been proven to be malicious attempts at distraction.

Rab's surmise about what would need to be done to FEEL FLOWS if only a copyright dump happens at the end of the year is the elephant in the room here, because it points up that the only way that question can be answered is if the track listing surfaces. Then we know a great deal more about the impacts.

I think podcast folks such as the one myonlysunshine just referenced should be encouraged to focus on such an approach, referencing Howie's assessment of the project. They should be supplied with some talking points about the music that has emerged from that period over the years to extrapolate from Howie's description.

Wirestone, you are right on it in terms of who should be bringing out the media pressure regarding this. But (again, apologies for the equivalent of playing "Be My Baby" 87 times in a row...) that requires the track listing--those guys need all the info they can have at their disposal to take this to the limit.

CD, the "Mike holds FF hostage" scenario is a compelling (and harrowing) hypothesis, with irresistibly lurid overtones. But the big media folks will have to actually confirm that such is the case before that headline will be unfurled. The other headline that comes to mind is" "79 GOING ON 12."

Joel, we all REALLY appreciate your efforts!

All Summer Long, we are READY for that list...
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 18, 2020, 07:23:37 PM

Also if Mike Love is the holdup - all the posts about how terrible Mike Love is and how wrong his decision is are certainly not gonna help him change his mind and sign off on the release. If you wanna talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

If Mike based his voting decision on the negativity from the fanbase we would never have gotten any boxsets ever.

Bingo. And eventually a number of projects that were originally blocked/delayed were released later on.

But what we don't need in a thread like this--one that has already been heavily targeted for distraction and hijacking--is someone going off into several tangents simultaneously in the same message/message string. You're a very smart guy, Donny, but IMO you are wasting our time by attempting to somehow go beyond the obvious and verifiable facts about potentially fluctuating economic considerations. When you cross the line into speculation about what happens if FEEL FLOWS doesn't appear, you risk becoming wonky and tedious, just as I risk being tedious and combative by taking after you-know-who and calling for the track listing of FEEL FLOWS to be leaked.

You can't really go any further with this line of reasoning than to say "some factors change"...unless you've also got a crystal ball next to your laptop that you're not telling us about.

What matters to most of the folks in this thread is doing what they can to publicize and expand support for a set whose existence has been confirmed and has been described as a game-changer by Howie. Part of the goal of creating that support is to get as much actual information out into the zeitgeist as possible. Part of that actual information (wait for it) is for us to know exactly what was planned to be in the FEEL FLOWS project.

Of course the next counter-argument will be that if that happens, that will cause everyone to circle the wagons. Which brings us back to the circular firing squad--capable of rearing its head pretty much whenever it decides to do so. No, the more people know about what they will be missing, the more the clamor for the set will grow.

BTW, the subject matter in that "other" FEEL FLOWS thread you are trying to start belongs in this discussion, and has been covered in this thread previously. To answer your question: Mike was able to block things by himself in the past, so we have to assume that given how he has consolidated power in the years since Carl's passing, it is highly likely that he can do so again.

CD's post on page 65 takes an intriguing (and rather harrowing) turn in expanding my original idea here that Mike was blocking the release to get something he wanted. I think that topic needs to be explored further, if people can stomach some of the implications within it.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 17, 2020, 06:50:25 AM
Yes, Mayo was laid on a bit too heavy, eh? Too much Mayo always makes my face break out...  Smokin

No one will boycott FEEL FLOWS if the liner notes contain a mention of Mr. Suppressive Personality. If one is really offended by his inclusion, just grab a Sharpie and render him invisible.

Let's keep our eye on the prize. Everyone here who is on social media should grab that ESQ tweet and send it out as far and wide ("deep and wide"?) as they can, to spread the word that a fabulous 5-CD set with immense historical significance is teetering on the brink of life or death and that all Beach Boys fans, whether casual or fanatically devoted, should make their voices heard to tip the decision in the right direction.

And yes, it's beyond time for someone to channel their inner Daniel Ellsberg and leak the track listing, already!

22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 16, 2020, 01:32:46 PM
Everyone with a Facebook page should link ESQ's tweet there, and everyone with a Twitter account should retweet it ASAP. The more it proliferates, the more the word will "get around."

Kudos to ESQ for un-embedding themselves enough to look at the big picture, which is to get the group the acclaim it deserves, no matter what foibles they may have had (or, for that matter, might still have). Carl, Dennis, Mike, Al, and Bruce deserve to bask in the glory of their incredible efforts during this time frame, and FEEL FLOWS is the best way to make sure that as many people understand and appreciate their prodigiously brilliant output during those frenetic times.

Keep at it folks--the tide will turn.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 15, 2020, 10:12:36 AM
For those that like to take the sort of "mob wife" attitude when it comes to this band, the ESQ attitude if you will, of ignoring any internal politics or negativity, and want to just delve into fandom only on *their* terms and only discuss their pet interests; if you want to ignore an amazing set slipping through the cracks and just talk about what type of mics they used at Western in July of 1964, then you can continue to just do that. I personally am happy to do both. I bow to nobody in my interest in every bit of minutia with this band. But I also know how to prioritize and how to keep perspective, and keep things real.

This snippet from a brilliant post from Hey Jude is one we should all put as the sig lines in our posts. And that "mob wife" metaphor is so on-target, I don't know whether to laugh or cry. Quite possibly the greatest sentence posted here ever...thanks, man!

Don't want to pile on GV33, as I suspect he had decent intentions, so I will leave the blowtorch on the shelf and simply reprint what Howie wrote so that there is one more signpost for it in the thread, with one comment. From July 29, 20/20:

I dropped by to help answer some of the questions re: the project, because there's some confusion as to whether it does exist, if it's coming out, etc.

It definitely DOES exist. It definitely IS completed. It definitely is named FEEL FLOWS.

Both Jardine and Johnston have spoken publicly about it.

Linett, Boyd, and I worked on it for 2 years.
Those two put the whole f ucking thing together.
Hours and hours and hours and hours.

As the official BRI consultant, I was asked my opinion throughout and consulted with brains and heart.
I got the box green-lit by the label.
I saved it from dying on the vine TWICE.

It's incredible.
It forever changes the way The Beach Boys will be viewed as musical entity at the turn of the decade.
It's THAT good. It's THAT important.

It is currently NOT scheduled for release.

The "disgrace" will be if Howie's incredibly hard work winds up being for naught. Before any of us are overly tempted to saddle up that big, tall moral high horse, let's keep that in the forefront of our thoughts. "Love and Mercy" for a world that, right now, can use all that it can get would get a tangible boost with the release of FEEL FLOWS.

24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 14, 2020, 09:51:01 PM
Sorry to be obnoxiously repetitive, guys, but someone has got to leak the track listing for FEEL FLOWS to the press. It's the best shot to get things moving.

Of course, no one is "entitied" to see that, since it "doesn't exist" because someone "who knows nothing" about what's in his band's archives isn't having another hissy fit...  Roll Eyes

Let the media do the heavy lifting for us. As I said before, can there possibly be another project with this band that's worth kow-towing to the latest version of "blowing it"? The breadth and depth of the BB's future artistic legacy is on the line right now.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 07, 2020, 02:55:54 PM
In addition to discussing the situation here,  those participating in this thread who feel strongly enough about it all really should take some time to contact any and all friends/acquaintances with some modicum of knowledge and appreciation of the band and explain what is happening and why adding their show of support is a valuable effort.

"Grassroots appeals" can often turn the tide if folks continue to press the issue and thus are able to preserve the momentum of the effort.

With respect to a digital-only release: we can only take what they are willing to give us. AGAIN--this is the best possible reason for someone to leak the track list of FEEL FLOWS, so that what is exactly at stake here is revealed in the brightest possible light. Howie's description of it is compelling and heartfelt but it isn't enough to demonstrate the magnitude of the project, particularly to media folks.
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