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2776  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sign the petition to include Blondie and Ricky in the 2012 Reunion! on: December 26, 2011, 09:42:09 PM

My point being, I think it'd be pretty sweet seeing Ricky Fataar playing drums on ALL of these songs since, uh, well, he probably has played nearly EVERY SINGLE SONG that The Beach Boys will be playing on this tour with the band while he was with them, which is more than you can say for David for the post-Surfer Girl material.
I think your point in support of Blondie and Ricky's well deserved credentials for being included in a reunion would be more credible if you could keep your facts straight. You are not doing them any favors by using a badly framed argument.  First off David was on studio recordings post Surfer Girl, like all of the new LDC LP tracks and at least a couple later than that...but that's a minor issue. However, if you know anything about Dave you'd know that one of the huge revelations of his life was when he rejoined the Beach Boys in 1997 and had to learn all of the post 1964 material that he wasn't on. That's when it hit him so deeply regarding Brian's genius, because he had to learn Wouldn't It Be Nice, Good Vibrations, Sloop John B., California Girls, Heroes and Villains, Sail On Sailor etc.. etc.. etc... And as he learned those songs and toured the world with the Beach Boys playing them night in and night out the brilliance of that music reminded him of Brian and the band's incredible growth after he left. Between his time as a solo artist, with Al and the Endless Summer Band, playing with Mike's side project in the late '70's, and playing gigs with the Beach Boys in the '70's, 90's, 2000's...Dave has played far more Beach Boys material than what's on the first three LP's...he's been doing it for many years...and he does it beautifully.

Whatever.

The jist of my point still stands, and I'm pretty sure that most fans value the 1972 Beach Beach over the 1998 Beach Boys. And gimme Carl & The Passions over Saluting NASCAR By Three Guys that Can't be Credited as "The Beach Boys" on this release.

And it is wonderful that he learned that about Brian's genius. And I think David seems like a totally awesome guy. And I think its great he's part of the reunion. My only quarrel is that it would be a crying shame to many if David wasn't part of the reunion, but the lack Blondie and Ricky merely elicits a "meh". It's just odd. And I really am beginning to think they won't be included because their presence would confuse the public. Whereas, you could replace Bruce, Al, and Dave with Jeff Foskett, Christian Love, and John Cowsill and the public wouldn't bat an eyelash, because most people know Brian, maybe Mike, and then some other guys, and the one that drowned.
2777  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sign the petition to include Blondie and Ricky in the 2012 Reunion! on: December 23, 2011, 10:01:54 PM
First you said David is included because he was there at the start of the 50 years. Now you're streching your own criterion three years past that to include Bruce.

I'm not contradicting myself; it's the 50th anniversary of the band who made the tunes that have made everything since possible.


I'm sure Carl would want them to get some recognition during this anniversary.

Carl's ghost & I have that in common — like I said, if they perform at some live dates, I'd love it — but they shouldn't be part of every 50th anniversary thing.

You know what though? Why shouldn't they be part of everything? Can somebody show me David's parts on Pet Sounds and SMiLE? Or his songwriting on Sunflower? Oh yeah, that's right! He's not on the fuckin' albums, and wasn't in the band during those times. Yet there he is, playing guitar on the new version of "Do It Again", a song which he had f***-all to do with back in 1968! Now don't get me wrong, I think David is great, and I'm very happy for him that he's part of the reunion, and I really think artistically he will make the new album more interesting.  But I think it's just fine that if they do a TV special and they are performing "California Girls" or "Wouldn't It Be Nice" that he be on stage. Same with Brucie, he wasn't on anything until Summer Days (And Summer Nights!!) but I think it's ok that he is on stage for "Little Deuce Coupe" and "Surfin' Safari" clapping his hands and wearing his dorky little shorts!

My point being, I think it'd be pretty sweet seeing Ricky Fataar playing drums on ALL of these songs since, uh, well, he probably has played nearly EVERY SINGLE SONG that The Beach Boys will be playing on this tour with the band while he was with them, which is more than you can say for David for the post-Surfer Girl material. And he is on record playing those songs with them. I direct you to In Concert if you aren't aware. Same thing with Blondie. Not to mention that if they play "Sail On Sailor", which I would think they should since it's one of their best songs of the '70s, they could have the original lead vocalist sing it. And they would have a guy that could play bass or guitar, and therefore could be really versatile in the band, also adding a great voice to the blend.

Just my 2˘
2778  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 23, 2011, 08:06:16 PM
You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??

I love both of those songs -- "H.E.L.P." and "Games Two Can Play" -- what's wrong with them?

I'm very curious to see how this new box set plays out. Will there be a lot of overlap with the 1993 box? If the new box is going to have (for example) 80% of the same tracks that the 1993 box had, I'd almost rather they just remaster the original box and throw in an extra (sixth) disc of new outtakes. Will it be a second "hits and rarities" box, or will the new one be entirely unreleased stuff? I got the impression after the Endless Harmony and Hawthorne sets that the Powers That Be didn't think there was much else worth releasing in the vaults (except for the SMiLE stuff, of course, which is now mostly all released).

I enjoy both of those songs. But when have a source like AGD saying how great things like "Live Again" and the '74 "California Feelin'" are. And there is supposedly all this great early '70s Dennis material in the ca still, I just think maybe there are some songs that were more worthy to be released than "H.E.L.P...." or "Games Two Can Play."

And yeah, it does seem like after Endless Harmony and Hawthorne that somebody seemed to think there wasn't much in the way of valuable unreleased material. But....not to sound like a whiner, but neither of those albums were exactly chock full of previously unreleased stuff. There were a whole lot of stereo remixes (some of which are awesome, and revelatory) and relatively unimportant live versions, and even the inclusion of a previously released song by ol' Brucie ("Endless Harmony"). I think if they would have stepped up to the plate with more unreleased material those albums would've done a lot better. I mean, how many truly previously unreleased songs were on Hawthorne. Three?
2779  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 23, 2011, 06:36:32 PM
OK, Jeff, I edited out the last line.

Howsat?

A bit better I s'pose.  Just keep in mind that there's likely to be only a limited number of slots for unreleased material.  The albums-with-bonus-tracks thing is a possibility, but we could get nothing more than a handful of unreleased tracks scattered across a comp.  So an alternate of R&R Music (which I think a fair number of people on this board would not want) could be released to the exclusion of something else that people would want.

Maybe it doesn't matter, but if the powers-that-be actually read this board, it would be best to let them know which tracks really should be released.  Let's not have another situation where we get "Our Team" rather than "Everyobody Wants to Live."

Honestly, I'm not betting that The Beach Boys will release a bunch of previously unreleased stuff with this 50th anniversary campaign, but I just wanted to give an idea for what is out there. As far as the albums released with extra material, I'm personally not so sure that will happen, but it would be awesome if it did. However, I do think the box set will have a nice helping of previously unreleased material, and I'm sure with Mark and Alan presumably running the show, we will get the cream of the crop. And if there are deluxe reissues too, then hey, that is just awesome!

You do bring up an interesting point though. Who was in charge when they decided to put "H.E.L.P. is on the Way" and "Games Two Can Play" on the box set instead of the 1974 "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"??
2780  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In the Back of My Mind on: December 23, 2011, 05:15:30 PM
Since I think it kinda got lost in the shuffle, anybody know if there might Oh hey guys, I'm being cute and testing the moderators!ersonally Yes yes yes, I don't know how to follow the rules!aybe know if there is any recordings of Dennis singing "In the Back of My Mind" live in concert in 1975? I'd be quite interested in hearing it.
2781  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 23, 2011, 02:00:47 PM
My dream is to have "Where is She?", the 1974 version of "California Feelin'", the 1963 version of "Back Home", and "(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again" released. That is it. Anything else is gravy.
2782  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 23, 2011, 08:54:09 AM
I would love if the reissues are the single album paired with outtakes. Maybe some unbooted material would finally surface!


Look at the sessions section of Andrew's website.  From the info gathered there, these are theoretically possible bonus tracks, although I wouldn't be surprised if some of the songs no longer exist for some reason. Some of these we've heard, many we haven't.

Surf's Up- Wouldn't it be Nice to Live Again; Won't You Tell Me

So Tough-  Beatrice From Baltimore ( don't know if the original version of Mess of Help exists but am interested in the lyrics); Out in the Country; Ten Years Harmony

Holland- We Got Love

At this point things get muddled. The infamous 1974 material doesn't have an obvious slot. Tack that on to Holland, or to 15 BO? Sadly, my bet is neither happens, robbing us of ever hearing the 1974 CF -_-

15 Big Ones- Angel Come Home (yup, although I think it was just the backing track and a rough vocal); Sea Cruise; Mony Mony; Clangin'; 10,000 Years Ago; Lisa

Love You- the Adult Child material; You've Lost that Lovin' Feelin

MIU- Mike, Come Back To LA; Burlesque; How's About A Little Bit

LA- Calendar Girl; Looking Down the Coast; Drip Drop (yeah right LOL ); California Feeling (oh God no, not this version); Santa Ana Winds; I'm Begging You Please (umm....no); It's a Beautiful Day

Now, I don't believe any of these actually WILL be on there, but it's fun to dream Wink




Well actually Columnated, I'll fix this up for you. There are a few that I'm pretty sure don't exist and a few other changes. So (with the addition of Sunflower, here goes:

Sunflower
"San Miguel"
"What Can the Matter Be"
"Loop de Loop"
"I'm Going Your Way"
"Walkin'"
"Games Two Can Play"
"Soulful Old Man Sunshine"
"Where Is She?"
"Back Home"
"Carnival"
"I Just Got My Pay"
"You Never Give Me Your Money"

Surf's Up
"Seasons in the Sun"
"Big Sur" (early version)
"H.E.L.P. is on the Way"
"My Solution"
"Won't You Tell Me" (if it's considered a Beach Boys track)
"Burlesque"
"It's a New Day" (if it's considered a Beach Boys track)
"(Wouldn't It Be Nice To) Live Again"

Carl and the Passions "So Tough"
"Out in the Country"
"Body Talk"
"Funky Fever"
"Gimme Some Lovin'"
"Rooftop Harry"
"Spark in the Dark" (doubtful, just Brian messing around supposedly)

Holland
"We Got Love"

1974 Sessions
"California Feelin'"
"Brian's Jam"
"Clangin'"
"Battle Hymn Of The Republic"
"Brian's Tune"
"Lucy Jones"
"You're Riding High On The Music"
"Don't Let Me Go"
"Our Life, Our Love, Our Land"

15 Big Ones
"Come Go With Me"
"Come to the Sunshine"
"Gold Rush"
"Lisa"
"Secret Love"
"10,000 Years Ago"
"Workin' In A Coal Mine"
"Sea Cruise"
"On Broadway"
"Mony, Mony"
"Running Bear"
"Shake, Rattle & Roll"
"Michael Rowed The Boat Ashore"
"Let's Dance"
"Don't Fight the Sea"
"Short Skirts"

Love You
"Ruby Baby"
"Marilyn Rovell"
"Sherry She Needs Me"
"That Special Feeling"
"We Gotta Groove"
"You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'"
"Lazy Lizzie"

M.I.U. Album
"Hows About A Little Bit (of Your Sweet Lovin')"
"Why"
"Egypt"
"Beach Burlesque"
"Goin To Get That Girl"
"Our Team"

L.A. (Light Album)
"Looking Down the Coast"
"California Feelin'"
"Calendar Girl"
"Brian's Back"
"Please Darling"

Keepin' the Summer Alive
"Little Girl"
"Jamaica Farewell"
"Stranded in the Jungle"
"Johnny B. Goode"
"Surfer Suzie"
"Da Doo Ron Ron"
"Smokey Places"
"Boys & Girls"
"Goin to the Beach"
"I'll Always Love You"
"Starbaby"
"How's About a Little Bit (of Your Sweet Lovin')"

The Beach Boys
"Stevie"
"Sweetie"
"East Meets West"
"Chasin' the Sky"
"Down by the Pier"
"Water Builds Up"

That is probably all the things they could add as bonus tracks and whatnot.

*Thanks to AGD site for this.
2783  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 22, 2011, 07:31:54 PM
Other than "Smile", is there any other music(Beach Boys or other artists) worth going through this sort of B.S. to obtain it?(and, by the way, I'm not refering to the personal attacks against me). This isn't fun.

The experiences I've had on internet forums make me more certain than ever that I have made the correct decision in deciding never to participate in social networking sites. i have no desire to create an advertisement for myself on one of those sites. Experiences like the ones I had here make me quite wary of  further interactions with strangers on the internet.

My use of my computer has always been primarily for web surfing, internet shopping, word processing, watching YouTube videos,  e-mail,  printing photos, burning CD-R's etc.  All of the other things that I could do with a computer are largely unneccessary, and potentially unpleasant or an invasion of privacy. There's just too much viciousness out there.

What B.S. Phil? I wish that it hadn't taken 44 years for The SMiLE Sessions to come out, but most of that time was because the creator of that material did not want it out. And for probably the last 8 months before it was released, it took time to make sure it was to Brian's (and other principals) satisfaction. So, honestly once we heard Brian okayed it, we got it pretty quickly, and gosh, how great it is.

I'd reason to say that within a year, we will have a new Beach Boys box set, an opportunity to see Brian, Mike, Al, Bruce, and David perform live together, a new studio album, and most likely the ability to listen to things like the 1974 version of "California Feelin" or "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again" whenever we please. That sounds pretty freakin' awesome to me.

I don't think there has been a better time to be a Beach Boys fan since from 1965-1972.
2784  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In the Back of My Mind on: December 22, 2011, 07:23:23 PM
Oh whoops I kinda worded that a little confusingly.

I was talking about the live version(s) with Dennis on lead vocal.

However, according to adamghost (and maybe a few others) there IS a recording of "In the Back of My Mind" with just Brian on piano and vocals from 1975. Apparently it somewhat features his younger, sweeter voice, with his gruffer voice also poking through. It would sure be nice if we could get that one released within the next year.  Grin
2785  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: In the Back of My Mind on: December 22, 2011, 06:42:25 PM
Question.

Does anybody know if they Personally May know where there is a live recording of Denny sinnging this in 1974 or 1975 or whenever he sung it in the '70s. It would be really interesting to hear. I can't really imagine it.
2786  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 22, 2011, 05:30:28 PM
I think Phil is either trolling or he is a severely emotionally disturbed. He never has anything good to say, ever. And that is a fact.

I think somebody needs to call this guy out, and AGD is the guy for it. I have no problem with differing points of view, but Phil really has went overboard with the doubting of all this stuff. It hasn't even been a week since, and he is doubting all these new releases. I mean, give it a break dude, seriously.

Yes, AGD may have been a little too mean, but lets face the facts, Phil is either an attention whore, or he is a total fake.
2787  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Unreleased early '70s BW songs? on: December 20, 2011, 08:13:46 PM
There's not many songs of Brian's from around the early seventies and there were a few I was wondering about. So here goes...

From what I've concluded from Jack Reiley, "Burlesque" is from the Surf's Up sessions? Although AGD's site says 1972.

Then we got "Funky Fever" which is from February 1972 and "Rooftop Harry" from April 1972? Any info on these?

Then finally there is Brian's medley of "Baby I Need Your Lovin'" and "Gimme Some Lovin'" that Andrew says is from 1973. However, it also says "Gimme Some Lovin'" was also recorded in April 1972

Were any of these completed? If not, how far along were they?
2788  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Bit of an upgrade at 10452 on: December 20, 2011, 07:28:31 PM
I gotta ask about the decision to keep "Child Is Father Of The Man", "You Are My Sunshine", "Look", whatever else on the unreleased list. You say "Child..." and "Look" haven't been issued in "complete" form, but the facts are they are as complete as they are gonna be on a Beach Boys album. There is not a more complete version in the vaults, therefore why keep them on the list. And then to give the asterisk to "You Are My Sunshine", well, who is to say it is unfinished? Sounds finished to me. You got Denny doing his part, and then you got Brian singing over the "false barnyard" part. It's done as far as we know!

Anyways, just a few quibbles. There are also a few other things that could be corrected if you want me to help point them out, but if not, it's cool. Regardless of that, great page. Super informative.
2789  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 20, 2011, 10:13:28 AM
Wait a second. I'm not denying the brilliance of the "Sunflower" & "Surf's Up" albums, or that "Holland" has some fine vocals. The uneven(and sometimes bad) stuff comes after the group's 3 year hiatus from releasing studio material(reportedly because Reprise Records wouldn't accept recordings with no Brian Wilson involvement). Brian's voice starts to show damage from substance abuse, the touring members increasingly become an oldies band(particularly after the unexpected success of Capitol's compilations of 1962-65 material), and the group starts recording some particularly bad cover versions(especially the cover versions that didn't get released). With Brian only occasionally participating, the production craftsmanship suffers when he's not there.
                             I'm not saying that there aren't occasional good tracks on the post-1974 albums, but it is obvious that the group's heyday was on the recordings made between 1962 & 1972.

But Phil, so you are saying you wouldn't be interested in outtakes from Sunflower, Surf's Up, Carl & The Passions "So Tough", or Holland? Or even some material from the 1974 Caribou sessions?  The 1974 "California Feelin'"? Or possibly material Brian worked on randomly in the "fallow" years, like the re-recording of "In the Back of My Mind"? That all sounds VERY interesting to me. And guess what, even though they did end up having some embarrassing material after 1976, they also had a lot of good, interesting stuff, especially from Brian and Dennis, so I think there is quite a lot that they should still release.
2790  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 19, 2011, 09:10:42 PM
He asks if the unreleased '70s material is any good? I'm going go out on limb and say he probably knows a bit about The Beach Boys unreleased '70s material somewhat due to his obsession with the SMiLE material. I'd just kinda figure somebody that found that thru bootlegs and such would be interested in the '70s material. And he's trying to make it sound as though there is probably nothing good from the '70s or '80s so they should just scrap the whole thing, because that way he can be right.
2791  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 19, 2011, 08:43:59 PM

There may be lots of unreleased 1970's & 1980's Beach Boys studio material, but is it any good?


Stuff like It's A New Day, Big Sur (4/4 version) Carry Me Home, Hard Times sure sound pretty darned good to my ears! Also, judging by the Marsland Band/Sands version of Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again and the wonderful descriptions by those who have actually heard the BB's version, I'd reckon that one's flat-out stunning.

Start factoring in stuff like the '74 California Feeling and other yet-unheard-by-the-masses tracks (though listed at Bellagio), and I'm sure they'd have no problem at all giving us plenty of good, even excellent material from the 70s if they wanted to (and 60s, too). I have a 1978 phone interview with Brian, somewhere in my collection mess, where he mentions a song called Bowling (also listed at Bellagio), so I'm sure they could pad the set with quirky Love You-esqe ditties, as well, that would appeal to a certain sector of fans.

Hell, I could come up with 20-25 choice, unreleased-as-of-yet or released, but harder to find rarities for a box set that I would classify (or imagine) as good without even breaking a sweat! Then, add alternate or new stereo mixes, rare mono, some live stuff, some vintage Smile mixes that were left of TSS, new recordings, or any other surprises, and I think it could be something that could equal or even surpass the '93 set:



Bless the fact that this band was a recording machine in their heyday:


Sandy She Needs Me (track)
You've Got To Hide Your Love Away (live)
CIFOTM (original Smile mix)
Barnyard (original Smile mix)
The Letter
Mona Kani (track)
Where Is She
My Solution
Wouldn't It Be Nice To Live Again
Walkin'
Back Home (either of the earlier versions)
Big Sur (4/4)
Seasons In The Sun
It's A New Day
Carry Me Home
Hard Times
California Feeling ('74) or any other surviving Guercio sessions
In The Back Of My Mind (remake)
Shake, Rattle & Roll
Mony, Mony
Sea Cruise
It's A Beautiful Day
Runaway

etc., etc... and I'm sure I'm forgetting plenty!


Carnegie Hall '72, the Paramount box set show, live rarities from the 60s, BW Love You demos, solo rarities, backing tracks, more Smile, the aforementioned rare mixes, etc. The possibilities are endless.



Wow. Yeah. I'd take that exact set. There is a lot of great material on that set, and still, a lot of Brian Wilson material, and overall just a lot of good stuff, so I think in this case Phil is just wrong.
2792  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Reissued albums? on: December 19, 2011, 04:48:54 PM
For the last four 1960's Capitol albums, how much could be added? The "Wild Honey" album & some of the "Smiley Smile" tracks could be remixed for stereo. As for presenting "Friends" in both mono & stereo, only "Friends" & "Little Bird" ever received dedicated mono mixes(for the single. Countries that released a mono "Friends" album released a fold-down)

Unreleased songs? When I posed the question(in the 1990's) to an EMI executive in London, I was told that the unreleased songs from the "Smiley Smile" sessions had not been found. Yes, you could add tracks to "Wild Honey", such as "With a Little Help From My Friends", "The Letter", "Lonely Days", the extended "I Was Made to Love Her", plus the unreleased "Game of Love"(a cover version of the Wayne Fontana & The Mindbenders hit) and "Honey Get Home"(or "Honey Go Home") which is reportedly a backing track fragment. One problem in adding songs to "Wild Honey" or "Friends" is that much of the unreleased material was released on "20/20".  As for the "Friends"-era track "Even Steven"? It's a working title for "Busy Doing Nothin' "

The origins of the "20/20" album have more than a bit in common with The Rolling Stones' "Tattoo You", The Monkees' "Instant Replay" or Led Zeppelin's "Physical Grafitti", in that all of these albums combined a half an album of newly recorded material with rejected/leftover songs from previous album sessions. As we all know, "20/20" made use of tracks from the "Smile", "Wild Honey" & "Friends" sessions. It must be assumed that the leftover "Smiley Smile" tracks had already been lost or disposed of by 1969. If these recordings still existed in 1969, they must have been considered not good enough to release.

Phil, Phil, Phil, if you know anything, its those Brother era rarities that most of us are really looking for. Most of the best Capitol era stuff is now out there, especially since SMiLE is now out. But there are still a few cool things still now officially released, like "Back Home" from 1963, and some outtakes from Wild Honey, besides those that you listed. Actually it'd be good to get those you mentioned back into circulation, because most of them aren't easily available anymore.

But anyways, there are gems to be found from the Brother years from what I hear. You've got "Where Is She?" written by Brian the Sunflower sessions, "(Wouldn't It Be Nice) To Live Again" written by Dennis from the Surf's Up sessions, "Carry Me Home" from the Holland sessions, and "California Feelin'" from 1974. So there is a lot of unreleased material to be excited about, and I figure we will either get it through reissues of the albums, or through a box set, or through some kind of album that includes previously unreleased material.
2793  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sign the petition to include Blondie and Ricky in the 2012 Reunion! on: December 19, 2011, 07:57:01 AM
Bruce, Blondie, and Ricky are/were f*ckING BEACH BOYS!

Eh, that's ^ not a big deal to me.  I'd reckon Billy Hinsche was/is more important, and for longer — he was invited to be an 'official' BBoy (I think they wanted him before they wanted Blondie/Ricky).  And Christian, Usher, Asher, and Parks all co-wrote songs that are vital to the catalog — Bruce, Blondie, and Ricky did not…

These types of debates could go on endlessly…  as endless as the summer, one might say.  Bottom line is: for now, let's just be happy our 5 major survivors were together in one room again — I predict some bumpy weather during 2012 — stay seated, and use your seat belt.

I think Bruce might take offense to the fact. And trust me, I am not a Bruce fan by any means, but I think many would say "Disney Girls" is a classic.
2794  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Reissued albums? on: December 18, 2011, 10:01:14 PM
Does anybody think we will get their main studio (and live) albums re-released next year? Or maybe just a few deluxe editions?

I'm not entirely sure it would make much sense for Capitol to release something like Little Deuce Coupe or Friends in a stand alone package.

I mean, I can see Sunflower and Surf's Up  (and maybe Holland ) getting deluxe treatment, because they are considered part of the boys artistic high point.

Anyways, I think at the worst they should do a few deluxe editions of their top work besides Pet Sounds and SMiLE, and the box set. At best, I think they should re-release every album with bonus tracks. And on top of that, have the box set, which would then include even more stuff.

What does everybody think? I know I don't wanna go overboard on this, but I must admit, I'm super excited to see what kinda previously unreleased material we get. Once has to figure that next year is our best shot to hear some things that we have wondered about for a while.

So what route does everybody think they will take?
2795  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sign the petition to include Blondie and Ricky in the 2012 Reunion! on: December 18, 2011, 09:15:40 PM

Couldn't we make a case that Hal Blaine, for example, was a more important part of BBoys history than Bruce, Blondie, or Ricky?

I think we could. But once again: Bruce, Blondie, and Ricky are/were FUCKING BEACH BOYS!
2796  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can we make enough noise to affect setlists on the 2012 tour? on: December 18, 2011, 09:05:51 PM
But anyway, "Slip On Through" would be amazing.
Did they ever do this one live?  I love it, but it seems like a longshot.  From Sunflower, I'd imagine This Whole World, Add Some Music or maybe Forever (as a Dennis tribute) would be more likely.  I would love to see them do This Whole World, where they pack in more ideas in two minutes than most bands do on entire album!
That is the perfect description of This Whole World. What a singularly fantastic tune.

Well there might be a reason why it is the perfect description:

It was made by one Andrew G. Doe originally!
2797  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2012 Tour fantasy setlist on: December 18, 2011, 08:26:12 PM
Here are my things I hope make the setlist:

But here are my choices (staying within reason) for songs I'd like to see on this tour:

  • "Please Let Me Wonder" (Brian)
  • "This Whole World'" (Brian)
  • "Vega-Tables" (Al)
  • "Good Timin'" (Brian)
  • "Sail on Sailor'" (Blondie/Brian?)
2798  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2012 Tour fantasy setlist on: December 18, 2011, 08:23:31 PM
* "Kokomo" will be part of the setlist each night.  Like it or not it's as familiar to Joe Public as the early catalog and has the added bonus that it's a great audience singalong. 

Agreed.  But I wouldn't be surprised if Brian went off stage for this one.

I'm not so sure about that. I think it is a possibility that Brian might be the one to do the "Carl" part on the song.
2799  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The new album (2012) on: December 18, 2011, 07:19:50 PM
I'm not huge on redoing previously released songs, although I think "Do It Again" sounds awesome.

However, I think maybe a Beach Boys version of "Love & Mercy" might be cool. But that's about it from Brian's previously released solo catalog.

And I think they could probably give "Cool Head, Warm Heart" a go. It was released on Songs From Here and Back or whatever, but I think it's probably the best song Mike has ever done without Brian.
2800  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Can we make enough noise to affect setlists on the 2012 tour? on: December 18, 2011, 06:57:46 PM
I personally think "All I Wanna Do" might be a little tough for ol' Mike.

But here are my choices (staying within reason) for songs I'd like to see on this tour:

  • "Please Let Me Wonder" (Brian)
  • "This Whole World'" (Brian)
  • "Vega-Tables" (Al)
  • "Good Timin'" (Brian)
  • "Sail on Sailor'" (Blondie/Brian?)
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