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76  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: March 19, 2011, 03:54:18 PM
So why (a) would VDP let his work (and a significant bit of his legacy) go as part of a divorce settlement and/or (b) why would his divorcée demand or win it?  Surely, only - ONLY - because their (her?) lawyers had reasoned it had some sort of serious monetary value.


    Yes, Van Dyke believes they are worth some money.  If I remember correctly, I asked Van Dyke about the acetates when I met him backstage in London at the premiere of SMiLE in 2004.  I should probably go back and dig up what I wrote about it then, because maybe I'm remembering it wrong, but I think I asked Mr. Parks if he had listened to his old acetates and he essentially said, "No, his ex-wife has them, and I've told her to hold onto them -- I've got daughters in college, and that's an expensive propostion."  Meaning, yes, he thinks they're worth some money, and that he was probably expecting Capitol to put out a box set soon, and he therefore wanted Durrie to hold onto them until Capitol is willing to pay for them. 

     If you recall, he said in interviews about finishing SMiLE in 2004 that everything new that he wrote for that project was really new.  He didn't listen to the acetates, and he didn't ask Frank Holmes to provide him with any old lyric sheets that may have had unused vintage lyrics on them.  (I think he also wanted Frank to hold onto them for a possible payday, too, figuring he got screwed out of a nice payday back in the day when they didn't use his drawings.)  So he figured he could write some good lyrics for SMiLE 2004 that would reflect the growth and travels of he and Brian that got them there, and hold out for a nice payday for Frank and Durrie, too.  (Now, I'm not entirely sure that Frank has any more lyrics than what he has already told us about, but I seem to remember it being mentioned.)

     But what about the vintage lyrics for Plymouth Rock, you say?  Probably the only reason we got the vintage lyrics to Plymouth Rock was that Frank Holmes had provided those lyrics to an interviewer at one point and they were printed in an article.  (Though I also seem to remember that this might be the one SMiLE song sheet with missing lyrics that Brian had in his possession.  Though it could be that Darian had a copy of Van Dyke's lyrics for this song because he got a copy of them when, or from when, Frank gave a copy to the interviewer?)

    But back to the main point... It's been 7 years since 2004, so maybe the Parks' girls college bills have been paid, and Durrie and Van Dyke are living quite comfortably and don't need a huge paycheck.  And then again, the girls may still be paying off loans, or they may be going for PhD's!  Either way, I imagine at some point soon Durrie Parks will be approached about what she has, and let's all hope that the negotiations will be fruitful!   

     Now, as to any legal wranglings over the acetates, as far as I understand it, seeing as the acetates were freely given to Van Dyke, and that he freely left them with Durrie, Capitol and the Beach Boys cannot force her to give them up.  (However, I'm sure most you also realize that she cannot legally make copies of them and sell them, because the material on them is copyrighted.  She would probably have to wait until the copyright ran out until she could sell copies of them.  And copyright runs out when, 25, 50, 75 years after Brians death?!) 

     However, I just had a thought -- she could probably legally sell them to someone else, or auction them off.  So... if there is an extremely rich Beach Boy fan out there, maybe you could buy them for an astronomical amount and then give them freely (or for a very nominal price) to Capitol for inclusion in the box set!  Now who's going to step up?  Cam?  AGD?  I know you two are loaded!  ;-)

     Or an even weirder notion -- how many Beach Boy fans could we get to "donate" $1, $5, $10 or more to a Durrie Parks fund in order for us to finally hear what is on them?  Who's in touch with Van Dyke?  Maybe we could set up a paypal fund that we contribute to, and once the acetates are turned over to Capitol, Durrie Parks could collect her money from us!  {Or better yet, we could give the money to Brad Elliott to hold for us while negotiations take place.  It would be safe in his hands, right?  --Sorry, had to do the joke before someone else did.}

Love and merci,   Dan Lega





77  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Add vocals only where lyrics are of 1960's vintage on: March 17, 2011, 07:24:23 AM
So: adding new material would be an insult to the memory of these guys, and perhaps border on what's known as art fraud.


Wow...    

Hey, I stated my opinion, expected to get flamed for it, and I don't plan on getting into a big discussion about it.  However, I totally fail to see how adding vintage lyrics to an old recording, as long as the original melody is found/remembered, is insulting to Dennis and Carl.  I also don't see how it could be considered art fraud if it's clearly stated when, why, and how the recording is done.  But to each his own.

Love and merci,   Dan Lega


PS -- AGD, old buddie, I know you've been arguing for the exact opposite opinion, so I thank you for your restraint and your succinct reply!   Cheesy
78  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Add vocals only where lyrics are of 1960's vintage on: March 16, 2011, 05:52:13 PM



(I posted this in another thread first, not realizing there was a specific thread for this topic.)


I'll know I’ll most likely be pilloried here, but I just want to put it out there that I, like a few others apparently, think they should use the post '67 Cabinessence and Surf's Up vocals for the Side One "near-to-finished” version of the album.  I want all the first time listeners to hear the magnificence of the finished tracks.  I don't want them to sit there and go, "Hmmm, I wonder what that would have sounded like with lyrics?"  Then the '66-'67 unfinished vocal version or instrumental track can be used on one of the other discs.  As for those who say, "But hey, it's called SMiLE Sessions, therefore you can't use anything past those dates," all I can say is, that is what *asterisks* are for!  Just place a little asterisk next to the song title to indicate that parts of the recording are post SMiLE Sessions era. 

My take is that anything which was WRITTEN or PLANNED, not just anything that was recorded, is historically accurate and indispensible.  Me?  I personally would love to have “reconnected telephone line” recorded anew – if it’s not found on a tape or acetate.  And even if this vocal is found – but only in bad sound quality – then I’d still love to hear it newly recorded on the existing backing track.  Seriously, I would.  Now I don’t expect to change any of your well positioned thoughts on the subject, but I have to be honest and say what I would want.  Now granted, if they record any new vocals my hope is that they let Al Jardine sing the lead, and that Mike, Bruce, and Brian are relegated to backing vocals, and that they do their absolute best to make it fit sonically with the rest of the vintage recordings.  Any new recordings should feature only the original members, meaning I would rather not have Darian, Jeff, Christian, or Al’s kids singing on it.  Also, I would rather not have a modern Brian lead vocal.  Only Al’s voice is still in top shape.  That being said, though, I would rather hear “reconnected telephone line” sung by ANYBODY than not to hear it at all.  (Though if it’s just sung by anybody, then it should be relegated to disc 2, or 3 or 4.)  Similarly, I would love to hear a modern Al Jardine lead vocal on “Do You Like Worms” if a vintage vocal can’t be found.  Heck, I wouldn’t mind hearing that on Disc 1 if it was done with enough integrity to the original recordings.  And if more lyrics from that period appear (either from Frank Holmes lyric sheets or elsewhere) I would love to hear them newly recorded, too.  I mean, if they’re not recorded for this project, when will they be?

The one thing I would not advocate for are newly recorded vocals of Van Dyke’s 2004 lyrics.  They are excellent for that project, but I don’t see any need for them on this set.  (Though, once again, if they were done tastefully, with an Al lead etc., etc., I don’t think you’d hear me complain too much -- though I would hope that the tracks would appear as extras, rather than on Disc 1.)

Again, I realize some of you will be dying to roast me over the pits of hell because of these sentiments, but I love what Brian and Van Dyke accomplished with their ’66-’67 SMiLE project, and I want to hear as much of it as I can.  If that means doing some modern recording for things that have been lost, or are in really bad sound condition, then so be it.  Give it all to me!  Don’t leave me wondering!

(And please be assured that I realize there is very little chance of the surviving Beach Boys doing any new recordings for this project.  So those of you wholly against my opinion most likely have nothing to worry about!  Please set your torches accordingly.  I, also, realize that any attempt at new recordings risks pushing the release date further and further away – so far away that it may never come out, especially with Al’s slow pace of recording!  That alone is reason enough for me to be on your side!) 

Love and merci,    Dan Lega

79  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett Billboard Interview About SMiLE on: March 16, 2011, 05:29:30 PM
As for the person who wanted to hear an all instrumental version of "The Elements", try this...

Earth -- "Fall Breaks and Back to Winter"
Air -- "Our Prayer"
Fire -- "Mrs. O'Learys Cow"  (use that composition only -- no "Bag of Tricks", "I'll be around", etc.)
Water -- Water Chant   (again, no "Cool, Cool Water"," Da-Da", etc.)

Each piece is about a minute long -- and while it's not all instrumental (i.e., "Our Prayer", Water Chant"), there are no real lyrics, per se, and in my opinion it's a killer of a suite!.  Okay, yes, it spoils the idea of using "Our Prayer" as the opener of SMiLE, but I think it's worth it!  

(Maybe you can try using "You're Welcome" as the opener instead?)

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
80  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett Billboard Interview About SMiLE on: March 16, 2011, 05:17:53 PM
Ah, just got through the whole thread.  Info on "Cabinessence" = cannabis is from Frank Holmes?  That's great!  Doesn't really fit with the rest of the song lyrics, but that's okay.

I agree with the idea of "Vega-tables" being drugs.  I hadn't thought of the "tripped" and "stripped the stalk green" lines being puns, but I'll agree with the interpretation.  Especially since the "and I ate the wrapper" line has always struck me as something someone would only do when on drugs -- and as something that you would only find funny when on drugs!  (Because if you eat the wrapper when straight, then something is definitely wrong with you -- which is sad, not comical.)

Here's my vote to use the "Cornucopia" version on side 1 of the Beach Boys SMiLE.  (Though I guess the other version is mostly a Smiley Smile version, and so I shouldn't even have to put in a vote for it.)  However, I just remembered how disappointed I was when they didn't use the Cornucopia version in Brian's 2004 version!  (I hope that doesn't happen again.)

Love and merci,   Dan Lega


PS to Mark Linnett -- try pitch correcting "He Gives Speeches" to the same key as "Wonderful" and using it as a insert -- it should work like a charm and sound great compositionally!   Wink
81  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett Billboard Interview About SMiLE on: March 16, 2011, 04:42:51 PM
That's interesting... "Cabinessence" as a mixed up pun on "cannabis".  I don't think I've ever heard that before.  And I don't know what to think about it, either.  It seems a bit of a stretch but, still, I'd have to say it's plausible.

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
82  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mark Linett Billboard Interview About SMiLE on: March 16, 2011, 03:49:23 PM
From the press release....  "Parks also introduced Beat-Pop artist Frank Holmes to create album sleeve art and a booklet interpreting the album’s James Joyce-mode lyrics."   Ah!  This seems very telling to me!  I don't think they would have mentioned Frank Holmes in the press release if they weren't planning on using his pictures for the album and box set.  Hooray, hooray, hooray!!!


Now, on to other things...   I'll know I’ll most likely be pilloried here, but I just want to put it out there that I, like a few others apparently, think they should use the post '67 Cabinessence and Surf's Up vocals for the Side One "near-to-finished” version of the album.  I want all the first time listeners to hear the magnificence of the finished tracks.  I don't want them to sit there and go, "Hmmm, I wonder what that would have sounded like with lyrics?"  Then the '66-'67 unfinished vocal version or instrumental track can be used on one of the other discs.  As for those who say, "But hey, it's called SMiLE Sessions, therefore you can't use anything past those dates," all I can say is, that is what *asterisks* are for!  Just place a little asterisk next to the song title to indicate that parts of the recording are post SMiLE Sessions era.  

My take is that anything which was WRITTEN or PLANNED, not just anything that was recorded, is historically accurate and indispensible.  Me?  I personally would love to have “reconnected telephone line” recorded anew – if it’s not found on a tape or acetate.  And even if this vocal is found – but only in bad sound quality – then I’d still love to hear it newly recorded on the existing backing track.  Seriously, I would.  Now I don’t expect to change any of your well positioned thoughts on the subject, but I have to be honest and say what I would want.  Now granted, if they record any new vocals my hope is that they let Al Jardine sing the lead, and that Mike, Bruce, and Brian are relegated to backing vocals, and that they do their absolute best to make it fit sonically with the rest of the vintage recordings.  Any new recordings should feature only the original members, meaning I would rather not have Darian, Jeff, Christian, or Al’s kids singing on it.  Also, I would rather not have a modern Brian lead vocal.  Only Al’s voice is still in top shape.  That being said, though, I would rather hear “reconnected telephone line” sung by ANYBODY than not to hear it at all.  (Though if it’s just sung by anybody, then it should be relegated to disc 2, or 3 or 4.)  Similarly, I would love to hear a modern Al Jardine lead vocal on “Do You Like Worms” if a vintage vocal can’t be found.  Heck, I wouldn’t mind hearing that on Disc 1 if it was done with enough integrity to the original recordings.  And if more lyrics from that period appear (either from Frank Holmes lyric sheets or elsewhere) I would love to hear them newly recorded, too.  I mean, if they’re not recorded for this project, when will they be?

The one thing I would not advocate for are newly recorded vocals of Van Dyke’s 2004 lyrics.  They are excellent for that project, but I don’t see any need for them on this set.  (Though, once again, if they were done tastefully, with an Al lead etc., etc., I don’t think you’d hear me complain too much -- though I would hope that the tracks would appear as extras, rather than on Disc 1.)

Again, I realize some of you will be dying to roast me over the pits of hell because of these sentiments, but I love what Brian and Van Dyke accomplished with their ’66-’67 SMiLE project, and I want to hear as much of it as I can.  If that means doing some modern recording for things that have been lost, or are in really bad sound condition, then so be it.  Give it all to me!  Don’t leave me wondering!

(And please be assured that I realize there is very little chance of the surviving Beach Boys doing any new recordings for this project.  So those of you wholly against my opinion most likely have nothing to worry about!  Please set your torches accordingly.  I, also, realize that any attempt at new recordings risks pushing the release date further and further away – so far away that it may never come out, especially with Al’s slow pace of recording!  That alone is reason enough for me to be on your side!)  

Love and merci,    Dan Lega

PS – I haven’t read the whole thread, only through page 4.  I hope I’m not repeating something that’s been argued ad infinitum already!
83  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Beach Boys release will make you 'SMiLE' on: February 15, 2011, 12:00:32 PM
       I agree with Andrew, it sounds like someone told Al to retract the statement, much like Mike was told to retract the statement that there was going to be a 50th year reunion tour, only to be followed up soon by a statement from all parties that there probably would be a 50th year reunion tour.  My guess is Al was correct with his first statement, and that plans are afoot to produce The Beach Boys' SMiLE this summer.  However, the powers that be don't want it known until they're good and ready to make an official statement.


            Love and merci,   Dan Lega
84  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Quick 'Tones' question on: March 05, 2009, 08:19:52 AM
I think it's a Brian tune.  Just because we hear Carl on the playback doesn't mean that Brian isn't around during the session or that Brian didn't write it, does it?

ALSO... have none of you heard the fan version that sings "Little Pad" to the tune perfectly!  I hope I have his name correct, Sean McCreavy, a fairly famous fan musician in England, who does/did a lot of stuff for Beach Boy Britain get-togethers, recorded a version of Tones that he then sang the words and melody of "Little Pad" over, and it sounded FANTASTIC!  So if "Littel Pad" is Brian composition, then it makes sense that "Tones" is a Brian compostion.

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
85  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Promises Of SMILE on: March 05, 2009, 08:03:34 AM
At one point during the early or mid 90's, the Tower record store at 4th Street in Manhattan had tab/slot marker for "Smile" in their Beach Boy CD section!  Now I don't know if it was because they had seen or heard something official, but I always thought it more likely just a joke or wishful thinking on the part of some enterprising employee there.

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
86  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Promises Of SMILE on: February 25, 2009, 11:55:59 AM
I was at a "Night with Brian Wilson" type thing, where Brian was interviewed in New York by some DJ probably about six months after the premiere of SMiLE in London.  David Leaf was there and he said he expected a box set of the original SMiLE sessions would be out within the next year.  This interview was taped and broadcast at a later point, and may have been put on the web for everyone to hear, too.

Someone mentioned 1995 as a date that Capitol was thinking about a SMiLE disc (or discs), and this may be true, but I thought they were also thinking about a SMiLE disc around 1991 when they were first putting all the Capitol albums on CD for the first time.  (This would have been the stuff Mark Linnet found, too.)


Love and merci,   Dan Lega
87  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / New York Concert Tickets on sale Friday 11:00AM on: September 11, 2008, 12:37:52 PM


        Apparently BriMel has finally put together a tour of "That Lucky Old Sun" in the US.  Check Brian's board for sites, and check Ticketmaster, or whoever does that sort of thing in your area.  A friend of mine got this notice from Ticketmaster for a New York Concert on sale Friday morning -- but it's not even listed at Brian's site yet.  Perhaps I'll see some of you there!

            Love and merci,   Dan Lega




Fri, 11/21/08
07:30 PM
Hammerstein Ballroom
New York, NY Brian Wilson
 

US $57.50 - US $98.00


Internet Onsale Info
Onsale to General Public:
Fri, 09/12/08 11:00 AM EDT
 

WWW.LIVENATION.COM
BRIAN WILSON
NO CAMERAS / NO RE-ENTRY
HAMMERSTEIN BALLROOM
311 W.34TH STREET, NYC
FRI NOV 21,'08 DRS 7:30PM

88  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: TLOS DVD on: September 08, 2008, 01:33:19 PM
       WOW!  Is anyone else as shocked as I am that the DVD of "That Lucky Old Sun" does NOT include a full video performance of the work?!  Seriously, all this time I thought the DVD was going to have a full live performance of "That Lucky Old Sun".  I'm flabbergasted that it only has, what, one (or is it two) songs on video.  I mean, I'm so shocked and disappointed that I really don't want to even listen to it right now.  I don't remember seeing anything that said the DVD was only going to be a documentary and a video clip of one or two songs.  Am I the only one who was this hornswaggled?


             Love and merci (and not so lucky),     Dan Lega
89  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Wrecking Crew -- Film playing in New York 8-1-08 to 8-7-08 on: July 30, 2008, 07:54:28 AM



          Hey, a new film about The Wrecking Crew will be playing in New York for one week starting this Friday.  Any New Yorkers interested in seeing it together sometime next week?

     
                Love and merci,   Dan Lega


--------------------------------


Venue:
 IFC Center website
 
Showtimes:
 2:45 and 6:25
 
Dates:
 August 1-7, 2008
 
Location:
 323 Sixth Avenue (at W. 3rd St.)
New York, NY 10014
212.924.7771
Directions
 

 
Media Inquiries:
 dennyted@mac.com or call 818.884.6654
 
Website:
 wreckingcrewfilm.com
 

 
Lunch Box Entertainment cordially invites you to
"The Wrecking Crew"
A film 12 years in the making
Fri-Thu, August 1-7, 2008

THE STORY
Collectively, their roster of hit songs is unmatched in the recording industry, numbering into the hundreds and spanning decades. They've been -- pun fully intended -- significantly instrumental in building the rise to stardom for a varied list of popular artists from The Beach Boys to Frank and Nancy Sinatra; from The 5th Dimension to Sam Cooke; from The Carpenters to Cher. They'd craftedsome of pop music's most timeless and recognizable songs. And yet, outside the industry, few could name a single member.

When a hit record was the desired result, there were no others to consider but, The Wrecking Crew, a group of professional session musicians for hire who, as the film unveils, lent far more to these hit songs than mere instrumentation.

Director/Writer Denny Tedesco's chronicle of pop music's Heyday delves back to the late 50s, the 60s and the 70s, an era of all night recording sessions in cramped, smoke-filled rooms, when real musicianship was not only appreciated, it was demanded. Stocked with rare, historical footage and interviews with the groups members along with testimonials from music giants Nancy Sinatra, Lou Adler, Dick Clark, Herb Alpert, Glen Campbell, Cher, Brian Wilson, Jimmy Webb, Roger McGuinn, Gary Lewis among many,

THE WRECKING CREW is an essential document of contemporary pop history and a must-see for anyone who's ever picked up an instrument, lived-off pop radio and collected music.

The film has played to packed houses and great response at the following film festivals:
 • OFFICIAL SELECTION - SXSW FILM FESTIVAL - PREMIERED
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 • LOS ANGELES GRAND PERFORMANCES "FILMS THAT MATTER" - 1,850 PEOPLE

Thank you for your support!

SOME REVIEWS
"The Wrecking Crew" is a well-nigh irresistible treat for aficionados of music from the era when acts like the Beach Boys, the Association and the Monkees were topping the charts.........'Nostalgia-drenched rockumentary should score impressively as cable fare, homevid product and public - Variety

This is a man's heartfelt tribute to an extraordinary father and his equally extraordinary friends and what they managed to accomplish in the world. If you have ever loved a record any record between 1960 and 1980, you've probably loved their work. And you'll find this movie deeply touching, very funny and a revelation. **** 4 stars out of 4 - Jeff Simon - Buffalo News

The 39th annual Nashville Film Festival ended with a blast Thursday night. Maybe you heard it. It was all to do with "The Wrecking Crew," a fantastic documentary about an unofficial "group" of L.A. session musicians widely regarded as the best in the business who played on anything and everything throughout the 1960s and well into the 1970s........I had a grin on my face the entire length of the movie, except for a couple of spots where the story turned bittersweet. There also were times I couldn't stop crying -- during funny bits as well as the sadder ones. - Knoxnews.com

Director Denny Tedesco, son of the renowned guitarist Tommy, smartly weaves together history and interviews, never overhyping or milking for pathos, and making all his talking heads seem colorful and intelligent..........Part of what's fascinating is that the musicianship is so subtle: Their greatness was in solid, unflappable consistency; they have the pride of craftsmen with lunch pails, not the narcissism of stars. Indeed, Tedesco's portrait of the studio musician's code of honor is so inspiring, and his characters so charming, that it didn't matter that most of this is music I loathe. - Mark Feefer - Seattle Weekly

It was incredible! I felt just like I was sitting there with them at that table. - Peter Frampton
 

 
90  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Cabinessense chant on: April 04, 2008, 12:37:59 PM

According to David Leaf...

Truck driving man do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of the night-life -- it's a gas man
I don't believe I gotta grieve
In and out of luck
With a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the vast past, the last gasp
In the land, in the dust, trust that you must
Catch as catch can.


According to Glenn Greenberg...

Truck driving man do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of night-life -- I'm a gas, man
I don't believe I gotta grieve
I'm out of luck
With a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the van, oh it's the last gasp
Land in the dust, prosper too much
Catch as catch can.



Now, according to Dan Lega...

Truck driving man do what you can
High-tail your load off the road
Out of night-life -- I'm a gas, man
I don't believe I gotta grieve
I'm out of luck
With a buck and a booth
Catchin' on to the truth
In the van, past the last gasp
Land in the dust, trust that you must
Catch as catch can.


That's what I hear.  (Though I'm not the greatest at figuring out lyrics.)  Your "prosper too much" sounded correct the first time I listened to it while looking at your lyrics, but "trust that you must" sounds better to me now.  However, I definitely go with your "I'm a gas, man" and "I'm out of luck".  I also hear "In the van", instead of "in the vast" -- but then I hear "past the last gasp" instead of "oh it's".

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
91  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE rarities on: March 27, 2008, 01:03:29 PM
All the answers are in a box under some old clothes in Durrie Park's basement!  Razz

I can't understand why they can't aquire the Durrie Parks acetates. IIRC Alan Boyd has said here that they want to purchase any unheard Smile material. Obviously they know Durrie has the acetates right? Why can't they work something out? Didn't Durrie tell someone on the old Shop she planned on going through that stuff?


I guess the simple reason they haven't got Durrie Park's acetates is because it is going to cost a pretty penny to get them.  And who's going to pay?  Capitol isn't planning a SMiLE box set, so they won't pay because there is no way to get their money back.  Maybe, just maybe now that the lawsuits are mostly over the three of them (plus Carl's heirs) will finally agree to releasing some old tapes?  Maybe Mike and Al and Brian will go into the studio and add vocal tracks to SMiLE instrumentals?  Maybe they'll all tour together?  However, I'm not expecting any of this to happen.  I did expect a SMiLE box set and even a reunion tour with all surviving Beach Boys to tour doing SMiLE within the first year or two after Brian released his new SMiLE.  But since didn't happen, and since the Beach Boys Store never opened I'm not expecting anything anymore really.  News of the Denny double disc really took me by surprise, and is a great development.  But I'm not getting my hopes up for any more stuff like it.

Love and merci,   Dan Lega
92  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wonderful on: March 21, 2008, 08:27:04 AM
I was talking about it as an a capella tag after the song "ends" with a butt edit from the end of the song.  But that's an interesting idea - you're saying it fits (in that fast tempo) as backing vocals over the verse?  I'd like to hear that.


Well, you have to match the tempos.  I didn't try to use the original recordings and place them together, I did an all new recording using different instruments and voices on my synthesizer.  As for the tag concept, I just don't get it, because you've already got the song ending on the "One, one, One, one...", etc.  If you go to the "new tag" at that point you're essentially going back to the verse.  I mean, I guess it could work, but it sounds so much cooler as an alternate background for the verses to me.

Love and merci,    Dan Lega
93  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wonderful on: March 19, 2008, 10:58:46 AM
I've heard some of the backing vocal tracks (from the SOT sessions) and there's a mamamamamamamama (mike) with some additional humming backgrounds (Brian?) chant type of on there. I've never been able to work out where they would have fit on the song? Anyone know?




See if you can find a copy of Net Sounds 3.  I did an version (even though it's an instrumental version) which shows how the all the extra vocals could have worked.  They would not have worked as a tag.  The tag is essentially just one chord, while mamamamama and wee-oops, etc. are for two chords, and therefore fit into the verse and not the tag.

          Love and merci,   Dan Lega
94  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Jon Stebbins Thread on: October 23, 2007, 07:49:44 AM
I just wanted to say that I loved your David Marks book, too.  Absolutely great job.  It made me see him in a whole different light.  (And the insight into the early Beach Boys was incredible, too.)

Also, I got to meet and hang out with David Marks at Hobie's recent East Coast Convention and had a hell of a time.  A really nice guy.

I hope the book is successful for you.  Every single Beach Boys fan should read this book.  Congratulations!

        Love and merci,   Dan Lega
95  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: More info on the new BW album on: June 08, 2007, 11:13:46 AM

Thanks, guys!

       Love and merci,   Dan Lega
96  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: More info on the new BW album on: June 08, 2007, 08:47:33 AM
Taken from this here site...
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    The thing Brian Wilson seemed most excited about...

A children's album?!

VDP writing the lyrics?!


Can you please tell me where this info came from?  Is there supposed to be a link? Or were you talking about "The Smiley Smile Message Board" when you say "Taken from this here site..."? 

            Love and merci,   Dan Lega
97  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Stephen Desper Thread on: May 02, 2007, 08:50:05 AM

       Just to help you out even more, click on "Writings" (on either the right side or in the middle), and then look at the third column, titled "Net Sounds Archives" and your threads are the fourth and fifth ones shown.


               Happy Birthday!!!!             

 
                         Love and merci,   Dan Lega
98  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Who is Amy? on: April 20, 2007, 02:33:15 PM
Someone - think it was Steve Desper - once told me that at this point in his life, he was recording anyone he could find: gardener, maid, friends.


By "he", I assume you mean Brian?


          Love and merci,    Dan Lega
99  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Last Great Brian Production and Song on: April 20, 2007, 02:31:32 PM
I'd go with "What I Really Want For Christmas", too.

And before that I'd go with "Black Widow" (demo) and "My Diane" (demo only!)

Then there's lots of good stuff on "Love You" and "15 Big Ones".

But my real favorite last stupendously great production is....

        ...the Intro/Theme song (instrumental) of The Fairy Tale! 

With the synth croaking frogs/ducks, missed beats, slowly building/changing textures, et al, I just find that's a tremendously realized piece of music.


                  Love and merci,    Dan Lega



100  Smiley Smile Stuff / Ask The Honored Guests / Re: The Alan Boyd Thread on: March 30, 2007, 11:44:31 AM
Hey, I was just listening to little surfer girl on the box set and realized (not for the first time) that BW is asking for instruments that aren't on the mix we hear to be turned up in his earphones. So, is there more to this song that a different mix could reveal? Also, do we know who this was intended for (The Honeys,I presume), as the pov seems to be of a girl .Sorry if this has already been covered...


I figured this was another song for "Bob and Bobbie", which is Bob Norberg and his girlfriend.  (Brian calls out to Bob during this take, doesn't he?  And what was the other song that Brian produced for Bob and Bobbie?)  To me, this song, "LIttle Surfer Girl", seems to be a duet for a guy and a girl, not just a song for a girl.  Listen to it again and see if you don't pick up that a guy would sing one line and a girl would sing another.  I'm hoping Bob Norberg, who apparently has some old tapes of he and Brian that have never been heard, has a more complete take of this song.  Of course this is the time to ask Alan Boyd if they've approached Bob Norberg about archiving his tapes!

         Love and merci,    Dan Lega
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