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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New interview with Al and Brian on: September 10, 2019, 06:01:18 AM
Al's got some great insights. I wish he'd write a book. (He hasn't, has he?)
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: RIP Nicky Wonder on: August 07, 2019, 05:57:59 PM
Wow, how sad. I looked up his age and he was only 59. I never met him but I've seen the band a few times, and he was obviously integral. I still remember that scene in Beautiful Dreamer where Brian makes him do "You're under arrest" repeatedly. Condolences to all his friends and family.
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: August 06, 2019, 01:37:28 PM
I just saw this interview with Al Jardine, where he mentions Matt Jardine singing the falsetto parts. I didn't realize Matt was back with Brian's band.

Here's the link: https://www.wnypapers.com/news/article/featured/2019/08/03/137995/historic-event-and-rarefied-air-when-brian-wilson-al-jardine-perform-pet-sounds

I'm looking forward to reviews, as well as seeing what's on the playlist, for tonight's show.

Apart from a few interludes (last year's XMas tour), Matt has been full time with the band since 2015. (And also did some 2014 gigs as well).

Glad to see the Al interview. It's standard boilerplate tour promotion, but it's good to get Al out there to promote the shows.

Pretty funny, the article transcribes one song title Al mentions as "Little Do Scoop."

It also says that Al wrote "Sloop John B"

In the interview, Al seems to take credit for the arrangement, which is odd. I thought Al did an arrangement and gave it to Brian and then Brian vastly improved on it.
But Al generally comes off as being so humble. I love what he says about Brian:

Q: You’ve been doing this with Brian for a long time. What does he mean to you at this point in your career – and what does he mean to you as a friend and as a tour mate?

Al Jardine: Well, he means everything to me. You know, we grew up together. We went to school together. Started the band together. We’re very close to one another and share an awful lot of memories. (Laughs)

Unfortunately, he has some health issues. His back has been bothering him for years, and he needs a little help getting on and off stage. But other than that, he’s terrific. And we have a great rapport with one another.

He’s the real thing. Let’s put it that way. We didn’t appreciate it at the time, but it’s become pretty clear to everyone that he’s an exceptional human being, and a wonderful, wonderful arranger/songwriter/producer, you name it. He owns it. Even Paul McCartney bows down to Brian and his compositional genius. And we respect Paul a lot, too, of course.



4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Get Well Brian on: July 29, 2019, 02:17:52 PM


Anyone happen to notice his left elbow? Is that a bandage for perhaps an injury?

It looks like an on body injector covered by gauze, the kind they use for patients following the last round of chemo. Maybe they are using one for his pain meds?




There must be another reason for Brian's bandage...right?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Get Well Brian on: July 29, 2019, 11:35:33 AM
So glad to see his smiling face!
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2019 Tour Thread on: June 22, 2019, 06:30:09 AM
It seems pretty obvious to me that it's likely Brian himself and Melinda probably realize that when Brian has nothing in particular to do (as in if he's not keeping occupied), this will possibly put him at risk at falling back into not-so-great habits and depression from just sitting around, plus it might make Brian focus too much on thoughts that make him sad, such as the family members that he has lost, etc.  Let's also look at the fact that Brian probably did lots of sitting around when recovering from back surgery, and perhaps that in and of itself was a catalyst for the tough emotional times he's had lately that caused tour date cancellations.

I'm sure that being on the road - despite some parts of that such as traveling, etc being not so much fun - keeps Brian motivated, and dare I say distracted in a good way from the dark stuff that he has to contend with - and as it seems Brian may not have the inclination or urge to be sitting around writing/recording as he once was, the road must be some kind of therapy for him these days. Just my opinion. If Brian had the fire in his belly to write/record these days, he'd be immersing himself in writing/recording, and I'm sure he'd sometimes be grimacing here and there and doing quirky Brian stuff without a crowd of people sitting around speculating that he didn't want to be there. The  time-consuming road life these days has just taken the place of his prior time-consuming music hobby of writing/recording.

Also, I think that for a studio perfectionist like Brian, that it must be hard for him on a personal level to deal with his own decline of having a voice not capable of doing what his voice did at a younger age. Yet that's what Brian does - make music and sing - it's pretty much all he knows. So there could be somewhat of mixed emotions going on when he records new music and performs on stage, well aware of his own age making him sound different from how he did in the 1960s, but also simultaneously experiencing the healing power of music and wanting to continue making music and/or performing live because of that healing power. There's got to be a lot of mixed emotions going on for a sensitive soul like Brian, and maybe sometimes we see glimpses of that.

Let's face it - people who look at recent shows and want to say that Brian "doesn't want to be there" - and basing that on his body language - could come across as having a legit point on a surface level from just observing how Brian looks in a given moment, but that's certainly not the whole story and can't be used as a proper basis to judge the entirety of the situation.  

After all, look at how Brian's body language was on the Beautiful Dreamer DVD documentary, when he was sitting in a room with his band members, looking like he didn't want to be there at practice. Nevertheless, he pushed through those rough patches, and then eventually came through with flying colors on the other side, where it all led up to a triumphant performance of SMiLE where he conquered one of the biggest things that had been gnawing away at him for decades. I feel confident in saying that Brian isn't being "forced" or "coerced" into touring. It's not like his tours are making some crazy amounts of profit, for one, and secondly I'm sure that Melinda and those close to him wouldn't do that to him if he really, truly felt that way. I think at this point Brian is having "the show must go on" mentality with rescheduling dates several months off.

For whatever reason(s), and probably part of that is fear of growing old and mortality, the road provides a distraction from just sitting around and thinking about that grim fact. I'm sure the same is true with Mike. The road must be a great distraction.  If I was 77 years old, and had the opportunity to not just sit around and be depressed, I'm sure I'd wanna get out of my living room and off my couch too. Besides, even that's probably not as much fun as it used to be, as the TV show Flipper isn't airing anymore anyway  Grin

Yes. I need to go back and read Brian's book again, but I believe he said his routine at home is pretty much watching the news and Wheel of Fortune or somesuch. He had his deli routine, but that can't happen all day ,and not with a bad back. It seems that he needs ways to get out of his own head.  It's not like he plays golf.
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy 77th Birthday Brian! on: June 20, 2019, 07:03:41 AM
Happy birthday, Brian. Wishing you everything you could ever want and need, but most of all, good health.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian postponing tour the day before it starts. on: June 06, 2019, 07:03:57 PM
Carnie on Twitter:

@CarnieWilson
 2h2 hours ago
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Sending love and healing light to my Daddy @BrianWilsonLive I hope you can feel all the love around you. You are safe and loved. You can do it Dad!!! ❤️

47 replies 22 retweets 278 likes
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian postponing tour the day before it starts. on: June 06, 2019, 03:06:51 PM
Mike just posted on Facebook:

Today, I read a message shared by my cousin Brian. My heart is swollen with love, compassion, concern, and thoughtful well wishes for a speedy recovery. Brian, you have fought bravely your battle with mental illness, I have no doubts that you will triumph and move gracefully past this speed bump. Let the music that lives deeply inside you carry you to your highest beautiful self, I will carry you in music every night we perform. I am cheering for you!”

I Love You Cuz and I hope and pray to see you soon.

Peace & Love
Cousin Mike


Very nice message. I love the sentiment that Mike and band will carry Brian in music.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian postponing tour the day before it starts. on: June 06, 2019, 03:05:49 PM
I think the narrative (though not necessarily intentional) these past 20 years has been, "Brian has dealt with mental illness all his life, but now he's got a great treatment plan and even though he has bad days, he's so much better and productive, and living life, etc." Well, I think in many ways, even though we know mental illness is chronic and not usually "resolved," we wanted to think that Brian had mostly conquered his demons because we all like a happy ending. And of course, we all love him and just want him to be at peace. But of course, nothing's that simple. What I'm happy about is that he was able to say (along with his family), "I need to just stop working and do what's best for my health."

And once again, the honesty of his statement is totally disarming and also just...your heart goes out to him.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian postponing tour the day before it starts. on: June 06, 2019, 08:25:00 AM
This is a terrible thought, and I hate myself for even entertaining the idea, but it almost sounds like the onset of dementia. I hope I’m completely wrong; it’s just that some of the symptoms described sound familiar to those of us who’ve had to say a long goodbye to a loved one.

I'll admit that I had that thought too. "Saying things I don't mean." But we shouldn't speculate. I'm glad Brian is doing what he needs to do to take care of himself, and I hope he recovers soon.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Happened to jeffrey Foskett?? on: May 31, 2019, 01:53:48 PM
Life at Del Boca Vista, for those who haven't seen it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3Vm_ksWreM
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What Happened to jeffrey Foskett?? on: May 29, 2019, 04:50:54 AM
Hope he’s ok. He does not look healthy at all .

Really? I think Jeff looks pretty good. He's 63.
As for Bruce, he and Mike have looked and dressed like old men for a decade and a half. They look like they're living at Del Boca Vista with Jerry Seinfeld's parents. But they're in their late 70s, so...
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brians caring personality on: May 23, 2019, 12:10:01 PM
I seem to recall reading that Brian made contributions to songs in the late 60s and then refused credit. Little Bird comes to mind as one where he told Dennis that he (Dennis) should get sole credit as composer (not lyricist, of course).

Correct me if I'm wrong.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: recently uploaded crazy Beach Boys commerical, staring Mike+Bruce on: March 22, 2019, 07:14:42 PM
But wait....There’s more!

https://youtu.be/1RB3YNzwtqE


Oh, and the company no longer trades.

It took more than one take to get the one they used?!
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beatles Vs. the Beach Boys on: February 11, 2019, 07:24:31 PM
Try this. Same video, different link--for some reason. (ETA: I should have read the video description: "sorry for the RE-UPLOAD - got hit with a few copyright claims, so I swapped out some music.")

The Rivalry of Brian Wilson and Paul McCartney
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hh7yI9Z6BvQ
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / The Beatles Vs. the Beach Boys on: February 10, 2019, 08:09:38 AM
The Beatles Vs. the Beach Boys

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMO52VyClLk
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson - 2018 Tour Thread on: December 24, 2018, 07:12:54 AM
This makes my heart smile.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BrtKBHKngbD/

I know it's probably nothing but maybe a possible contender for the Rock 'n Roll album?

I came here to see if anyone had posted this. What a moment.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Was Queen more influenced by the Beach Boys than we know? on: December 05, 2018, 08:56:40 AM
Queen (particularly in the 70s) incorporated so many different genres of music into their songs that I'm sure they had many different influences. Just the difference between "Liar" and "Lazing on a Sunday Afternoon"...or the shifts in "Millionaire's Waltz" or "Bohemian Rhapsody" tells you there were many colors on their palette.

I suppose when a band does a lot of complex, multi-layered harmonies, it's automatically thought that the Beach Boys were an influence, and they probably were, since the members of Queen were coming of age during the BBs' peak. You may think Queen was bombastic and overly commercial. I personally love their music. Their harmonies were gorgeous, their had serious chops on their instruments, they wrote some fantastic melodies, Freddie sang like no one else...and they had charisma and a sense of humor on top of it all. They took their music seriously (for the most part) but didn't take themselves seriously.

Where's the quote from Rock's Back Pages where Brian says he loves Bohemian Rhapsody? It was quoted on the board at one time.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Brian documentary! on: December 04, 2018, 10:14:42 AM
Sounds so great. Brian when he's at ease is a wonderful thing.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New version of “Love and Mercy” featuring young Afghan girls and women on: November 27, 2018, 07:27:00 PM
Wow. Very moving indeed.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Dennis' Voice 1980-1981 on: October 12, 2018, 09:56:46 AM
His voice is definitely rougher in POB. In the late 60s/early 70s stuff, I think it's got its own beauty--different from the beauty of his brothers' voices, but pretty to listen to, nonetheless. Mid 70s, it's rougher, though I don't find it hard to listen to. But obviously in the early 80s, that was damage on a whole other level.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love is in the white house on: October 11, 2018, 02:34:58 PM
Seems he spoke, must watch later  LOL



Trump and his merry band of privileged white men.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What would have been a fair price for Sea of Tunes? on: September 04, 2018, 05:20:24 AM
My thoughts on it (and no proof, but just my guess) is that Brian's upset with the sale of the songs had nothing to do with him somehow knowing they would be worth many times more someday, I would think he was more upset that his "babies" so to speak were sold. He put his blood, sweat and tears into them and then had them taken away. Granted he was still listed as the songwriter and stuff, but he no longer had as much control over the songs.
Also, the fact that Murry got all $700k of it and didnt even give Brian $1 from what I've heard also probably pissed him off.
I know that both of those factors would anger me if I was in his position...

I agree. I think it was less about the money and more about the total disregard for what Brian would want for his own work.

25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New Recording of \ on: August 23, 2018, 09:13:20 AM
One...Michael...Do It Again is a song TITLE...not marching orders. 

Ha!
Well, that's just it, Lee. He loves it. The Beach Boys do it again! Mike Love does it again! He thinks it's clever. Hey, lets get surfing again, like the old days. Let's record that song again, like the old days.

Maybe he should find a melodist and write song new lyrics, creating a new song? If Brian won't do it, find someone else. Maybe it will help erase the notion that he's out of ideas and earn him some respect?
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