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51  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Your Second Favorite Band Next to the Beachboys on: January 30, 2012, 11:45:39 PM
Beside Beach Boys/BW, it's:


Pixies/Frank Black
Guided By Voices/Robert Pollard
Devo
Weezer
Beatles
Kinks
Dylan
52  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: January 08, 2012, 03:05:59 AM
I stopped bothering at the word "definitive", for obvious reasons.

Well, all I said was this mix was definitive for me, probably not for everyone else  Cool

I got that, thanks will give it a listen soon!
53  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: January 02, 2012, 11:03:24 AM
Does anybody know the exact places where the BB's lived when they were living in Holland?

Sure: Dennis camped out in the Canary Islands. As for the others:

Carl and Blondie in Hilversum
Brian in Laren
Ricky in Vreeland
Mike and Al in Bloemendaal
Jack in Amsterdam

And they recorded in a converted barn in Baambrugge.


Thanks, that's great! I've been to most of these small towns and Amsterdam of course. Very interesting that they put them in those rural places
54  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: December 29, 2011, 04:20:05 AM
Does anybody know the exact places where the BB's lived when they were living in Holland?

55  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Jasper Dailey songs on: December 28, 2011, 03:27:23 AM
Yeah, I really like it too for that same reason!
56  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: THE BEACH BOYS ANNOUNCE 50TH ANNIVERSARY REUNION, NEW ALBUM AND TOUR on: December 19, 2011, 01:03:39 AM
I just saw Mike Love hitting Brian Wilson!

And who's questioning Brian in the fade?

OMG it's 1967 all over again!
57  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Sessions (likely) on Pitchfork's \ on: December 16, 2011, 03:52:28 AM
I believe it didn't make the cut, did it?
58  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's vocal improvement between BW88 and In The Key of Disney on: December 15, 2011, 09:02:57 AM
Not saying you're wrong, but how is this different to the autobiographical lines on PS?
59  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 'California' Playlist on Youtube on: December 14, 2011, 02:27:48 PM
Get Back is an interesting choice
60  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE Sessions box set! on: December 14, 2011, 06:00:39 AM
I second that, and I'm planning to make my own 'disc 2' with alt. versions just like the last disc of the Pet Sounds Box.
61  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Al...Beach Boys at the Grammys is On! on: December 12, 2011, 02:51:31 PM
Let the games begin!
62  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: December 09, 2011, 05:09:49 AM
Looking forward to it!
63  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: SMiLE: Bring It On, Fanmixers. on: December 09, 2011, 01:04:58 AM
Ok, we should have one page consisting of links to the fanmixes, maybe sticky this or put it in a new thread (but that's up to the mods)

Monicker's Conservative Mix:
320 kbps MP3: http://www.mediafire.com/?1uaucaibg3ts6xb
Apple Lossless: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=YSP90RYN

Soniclovenoize stereomix:
320kps mp3s:
http://www.mediafire.com/?h8l3jk2d54jmfvn


SMiLE - soniclovenoize stereo mix 2.0
http://www.mediafire.com/?1i005d3ybr23sxq

Flacs:
Side A: http://www.mediafire.com/?6whwgib17b2ocuw
Side B: http://www.mediafire.com/?1ff6ngdu1gpzlr4

Barnshine's Stereo mix":

http://www.mediafire.com/?hwexk3pniol7ngd

Barnshine's Stereo Companion Mix
DL in FLAC:
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?ebohkga11j6psub
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?tpclawrtcy757ep
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0wv63jeg8ftvyd0

3 fixed tracks (flac):
Heroes and Villains - improved stereo mix http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?kuardevwjr4flpx
Surf's Up - shortened silence before the track starts http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?jllddgtpvt39evg
Good Vibrations - fixed the dropout http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?0ukv08bfzo6w6a3

Mp3 version (including the fixed tracks): http://www.mediafire.com/?nteo6eopdleu71t



seltaeb1012002 A.D. Mix:

http://icreateification.blogspot.com/2011/11/smile-ad-stereo-mix.html



That's about it, what did I miss?
64  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: December 05, 2011, 02:33:43 AM

Writers and journalists *not* doing their homework???  What a revelation.  Don't you think we should direct the fault at them for not checking their facts?
The problem is that sometimes the best sources are considered the people who were there, and by using their discographies or bios, or by interviewing them writers think they are fact checking. There are probably dozens of sources, books, websites, wikipedia, documentaries, cd liners that credit Hal Blaine as being the drummer on I Get Around and Don't Worry Baby...but how many sources are there that credit Dennis Wilson? Well, my new book is one, there might be one or two more...but its like a 25 to 1 ratio. And guess what, if you listen to the session tape for Don't Worry Baby (which I only got a chance to because I actually found the lost multii-track tape)..its obvious that Dennis is the drummer on that session, you can hear him being talked to by Chuck Britz and Brian as they set levels and work out the intro arrangement. He's there, Hal's not...So I'm right, i did my research...but I'm probably in the minority for the rest of my life as a journalist who declares Dennis played on those songs and not Hal. And often when i point it out I get people asking me why am i disrespecting Hal? Or why do I think I know more than David Leaf? etc... etc... Its not an easy thing. Sometimes its like threading a needle. People like Craig Slowinski are doing a major service to the Beach Boys legacy, but he'll undoubtedly get tons of sh*t for pointing out that Carol Kaye did not play bass on the released version of Good Vibrations. The Wrecking Crew are so deified that even fact checking can get you on the wrong side of people.


Jon, two questions:

- will there be another revision of your dennis or david books, or can I just buy the old editions? They seem to be avaible in Holland
- Why does Hal Blaine get the credits for those songs anyway? Is he on the AFM contract?
65  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Ten-episodes official web series on the SMiLE Sessions is now on YouTube on: November 18, 2011, 06:07:57 AM
I can understand Mike's opinion, and maybe I would acted the same as he did in his place, but you should never be afraid of what your fans might think. Follow your muse. If that's 30 versions of Shortin'Bread for Brian, that's fine. If that means that Rivers Cuomo wants to rap, be my guest. Liz Phair same thing. Metallica and Lou Reed can make children records if they want. Artists thinking too much about what will sell or what their fanbase will support, tend to make bland recordings anyway. I rather hear a train wreck than a bland record. Sweet Insanity is better than In The Key Of Disney.

Mike Love gets criticism he doesn't deserve, but it should be noted that his remarks about VDP lyrics in the recent interviews make it seem like he was only in it for the money or for the fame. That's ok, and I like that he's honest about it.
66  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A Ten-episodes official web series on the SMiLE Sessions is now on YouTube on: November 18, 2011, 01:04:58 AM
As a human I can understand his point and have to agree with him on that level. But it's not about taking a stand for the people of Omaha. It's taking a stand for their money. As an artist you need to release yourself from that to achieve great things..

It's not a BW vs ML-thing, Brian also thinks about how much money is going in his pocket, he even said that recently when talking about a BB reunion. That's only human of course....
67  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Other Pop Composers Who Have Written in Sections? on: November 15, 2011, 01:33:15 PM
Try some Guided By Voices, for instance Alien Lanes.
68  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Smile Sessions enters the UK album chart... on: November 07, 2011, 01:49:42 AM
#20 in Holland. Not bad!
69  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Smile Box set: Ghost melodies, clues, hints, and new mysteries on: November 06, 2011, 01:27:49 AM
Can I weigh in and thank Josh for this again:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYu12MpBqdU&feature=youtu.be

Totally works for me and it's a much better melody. Somebody should make a cover of DYLW this way. The 'new'-melody as a lead vocal and then when it switches to the BWPS-melody you could make a harmony with 4 voices.

70  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things \ on: November 03, 2011, 03:55:36 PM
....Want to know this....should have been in the liner notes....is there a wizzard here who knows what they are?
71  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Track details for the basic SMiLE album on: November 03, 2011, 03:49:35 PM
Just write a book C-Man, given the fact that I just spend more than 100 euro's on a box of music, I'm pretty sure I will pay for a book on the subject too.
We can crowdfund it...
72  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Boxset Book Discussion: Brian's liner notes and the essays on: November 03, 2011, 03:44:36 PM
I don't get why Boyd and Linnett weren't given more room to elaborate on their work. For the one or two disc-set I can understand it, but the box-owners are SMiLE-nuts. Why not be more open about where the tapes come from, what they merged with what, where precisely are the fly-in's, when are we hearing in acetate?
 Ok, you could say we have this board for that... Grin

I like to be taken by the hand when I listen and those guys are pro's, 2 pages isn't enough. Same thing goes for the sessions, they should have been twice as many pages at least. For instance, the detuned piano on the 1967 Surf's Up, it's a great novelty, but as somebody pointed out: Brian plays other chords too! I would have liked to have a central place for this sort of info and Boyd and Linnet could have provided it. Maybe this isn't the last SMiLE-release (dvd in the works?) and there are always interviews to draw info from.
73  Smiley Smile Stuff / Smile Sessions Box Set (2011) / Re: TSS - All things H&V on: November 02, 2011, 12:30:39 AM
The funniest thing is Track 20 on Disc 2 of the box, 'Heroes And Villains: Piano Theme' at about 1:13: Kiss'  'I was made for loving you', anyone? Hahaha!

You're a few decades late to discover that! Smiley

Well it was a first for me too? Is it possible that Kiss listened to some boots? When did they first emerge?
Of course it's a pretty simple melody that anybody could come up with
74  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Boxset Book Discussion: Brian's liner notes and the essays on: November 02, 2011, 12:18:29 AM
What do you think about the book, AGD? 
75  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: A bitch about the bitchers. on: November 01, 2011, 03:32:37 AM
'Say Thanks first'?

I paid them top dollar, which should say enough. I'm eternally grateful for the work Brian, the boys, the writers who kept the dream alive and all the engineers, producers and managers who made this boxset possible. But even people that did amazing work can make mistakes, and even big mistakes. Taste should be left out of this, but for instance sending a wrong master to the pressing plant is a mistake. Not saying that this is the case...but where are those backing vocals in Barnyard!!!!

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