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201  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 31, 2019, 09:29:26 AM
I followed another independent documentary film once that took years to come out (about 7-8 years after it was 'done') as they couldn't clear the music. Netflix is full of dodgy documentaries with soundalike music that don't quite hit the mark, and I'd hate for it to become one of those.
202  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (2019 Brent Wilson Documentary) on: December 31, 2019, 03:33:53 AM
Per "Endless Summer Quarterly" - it's in the finishing stage and hopefully will get an independent cinema/festival release 'soon'

And additionally - Al Jardine reckons a Love and Mercy musical is being planned for Broadway.
203  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: December 27, 2019, 01:15:37 PM
June 19: Beach Boys play Norway

June 19/20: Brian Wilson band plays Spain.

 

Dare to dream...? Both bands in Europe at the same time
204  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Murry Wilson And Snow on: December 19, 2019, 05:20:32 AM
If the BBs version has the better verse, this has the better chorus
205  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 13, 2019, 02:13:48 AM
IIRC, the copyright motivation actually resulted from a misunderstanding of the law, which is why most artists (including the Beatles!) did them for a year or two and then stopped. The BBs continued because of fan interest. Seems like fans weren’t interested enough in last year’s for them to continue.

Not according to Mark Linett last year:

"It has a lot to do with 50-year copyright term limit in the U.K. and the E.U. for sound recordings. Back in 2013, some copyright tribunal amended that, and added 20 years to the term. But there was a sort of use-it-or-lose-it provision, which basically said unreleased recordings have to be officially released within 50 years of creation in order to get copyright protection. And I think they did this because in 2012, the first Beatles recordings were starting to fall into the public domain. It happened with the Beach Boys too — the Surfin’ Safari album in that territory is now public domain, because the registration wasn’t retroactive."

But The Beatles and Beach Boys stuff was released

I see these things as copyrighting things like sessions or alternate takes
206  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: December 12, 2019, 03:07:49 AM
I've got access to Aus/NZ/Vietnam stuff, but I don't know what I'm looking for... any ideas?
207  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Sloop John B guitars ~ isolation video on: December 12, 2019, 02:44:41 AM
Some have requested that I put together a score for the arrangement.  I had typed it all up in standard music notation, but Tab is helpful for many guitarists, so I added that with the caveat that I'm not that familiar with tab standards and how you do things with it, so use it as you will.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UHK32Hrw8t5Cz8PkB_tHe-8ZAETnzCAb/view?usp=sharing

More to the point, it's the only notation some of us understand :D Looks great, thank you Joshilyn
208  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys Orchestration Web Series on: December 09, 2019, 02:14:36 AM
Something that’s always been a puzzler for me is figuring out the vocal arrangements. Some episodes on the vocals would be pretty neat to see. 😉

I found this the other day which makes it surprisingly easy to read

https://www.surfermoon.com/tabs.shtml#vocal

There are a few songs (Til I Die, etc) linked on there. The GitHub site linked to is offline now, but archived here: https://web.archive.org/web/20120205222544/http://beach-boys.aure.com/
Seems some of the linked files are gone though.
209  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 08, 2019, 04:55:51 AM
Ehhh....no.

 ‘This concert will not feature Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, or David Marks.’

https://www.hollywoodbowl.com/musicdb/artists/7263/the-beach-boys



Weird, do they have to state that for some reason?

Might also stop journalists getting it wrong. When the Chelsea gig was announced one article was saying how Brian, Mike and Al would be there while another was saying how Brian, Al and Blondie toured as The Beach Boys. By the afternoon those articles had been corrected and the Brian pictures replaced with Mike pictures!

Interesting to think about... there was that announcement, now the 3 shows in LA with a philharmonic orchestra

Dare to dream?
210  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: December 07, 2019, 11:55:16 AM
Ehhh....no.

 ‘This concert will not feature Brian Wilson, Al Jardine, or David Marks.’

https://www.hollywoodbowl.com/musicdb/artists/7263/the-beach-boys



Weird, do they have to state that for some reason?
211  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian on Marie Callender's pie on: December 03, 2019, 01:07:15 AM
Almost looks as if whoever's on the other end is telling him what to say
212  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Christmas Songs Without Christmas Lyrics on: November 29, 2019, 05:10:47 AM
A great British classic - Jonah Lewie with Stop the Cavalry

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HkJHApgKqw

Has a small line about Christmas, but not a Christmas song, now considered one anyway
213  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Beach Boys songbooks? on: November 28, 2019, 06:44:27 AM

Yes, plus the more mature Beach Boys songs of the early 70's are easier for me to sing - not so high!

Anything with a Mike or Dennis lead is my jam, ability-wise! Or perhaps Sail on Sailor... LOL:
214  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't Talk isolated guitars re-creation on: November 26, 2019, 10:03:14 AM
Indeed. Most chord sites have Darlin' like this:

Code:
        B   E/B
        Oh, Darlin',
          G#m7               C#7
        My darlin' you're so fine

        B/F#     F#      E/G#

But that just didn't sound right to me, and it didn't look like what Carl or Al were playing.

But the last chord, which I think is *the* chord that makes "Darlin'" as a song - sounded wrong. So I tried other stuff. The G# in the bass sounded very strong to me, but the rest wasn't an E. It's a C#m!

So if you play C#m/G#, it sounds much better... and I'm not even 100% about that!

Aha, yes, what you're picking up on there is why we call it music theory--that chord is what it is and it is our problem to try to call it something.  The key things happening in that chord are the bass note, the G#, and the C# that you can hear in both the piano and the backing vocals.  It's part of the classic BW chord pattern (Which, video on later...)   That C# rules out calling it a straightforward E in first inversion, ie with the G# in the bass.  The notes in the chord do correspond to a C# minor seventh chord and certainly we could call it a C#minor chord in second inversion, ie with the G# in the bass.  However, one could also call it an E major sixth chord, ie and E6, again in first inversion.  The main question we seek to answer in calling chords things is: what is this chord doing?  How is it functioning in the music?  In Darlin, I would argue that this chord serves as a sort of deceptive cadence from that nice suspension resolving to what kind of feels like could be nice authentic cadence from the F# to the tonic chord of B--but instead goes to this ambiguous E6/G# deal--which is neat, because, since it's an ambiguous chord functionally, it makes the following chord sequence more surprising to further complicate the elongated cadence, now not resolving to the tonic yet again, but instead ceding to the ii chord for the verses.

Something like that.  In any case, for the chord you described, the notes from the bottom up are G#, B, C#, E, G#

Another one - the lead-in chord on the ... "post-chorus" is a A/B. Or is it a Esus4/B? The guitar players are playing an A (or even, A/E). The bass player's playing a B! So I go with A/B Smiley But then the next chord is a straight E, which makes the one before it sound very 'Sussy'...
215  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love's Christmas package on sale now on: November 26, 2019, 09:55:40 AM


I am floored that the graphic designer doesn't have one decent picture of Mike's book to market with this set...or that they didn't spend more than 10 seconds photoshopping the cover onto an actual book. It legit looks like I'm being sold a box of cereal with 'Good Vibrations' written on it.

Or a pre-2010s copy of the Yellow Pages
216  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't Talk isolated guitars re-creation on: November 26, 2019, 06:43:07 AM
Indeed. Most chord sites have Darlin' like this:

Code:
        B   E/B
        Oh, Darlin',
          G#m7               C#7
        My darlin' you're so fine

        B/F#     F#      E/G#

But that just didn't sound right to me, and it didn't look like what Carl or Al were playing.

But the last chord, which I think is *the* chord that makes "Darlin'" as a song - sounded wrong. So I tried other stuff. The G# in the bass sounded very strong to me, but the rest wasn't an E. It's a C#m!

So if you play C#m/G#, it sounds much better... and I'm not even 100% about that!
217  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Don't Talk isolated guitars re-creation on: November 26, 2019, 06:07:56 AM
Apologies - I though it was interesting and neglected to say so at the time! In a way if reminded me of loops that play at different speeds - the guitars seem to go in and out of sync with each other, like indicator lights on cars in traffic.

Would you be interested in making a BBs chord book? Some of the published internet chords for many songs are horrific
218  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love's Christmas package on sale now on: November 25, 2019, 12:31:05 AM
What could be more Christmassy than sitting under a Mike Love bauble, holding a Mike Love drinkware piece with your loved one?
219  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: November 24, 2019, 02:44:01 PM
https://www.facebook.com/1607269692841179/posts/2591292767772195?vh=e&d=n&sfns=mo

Promo video for London
220  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Beach Boys songbooks? on: November 22, 2019, 05:07:51 AM
Or one monster one that covers everything. There are some truly mental chords in some of the songs and even the more popular ones haven't been tabbed out that well.

Not helped by the fact that if you watch live videos of them playing then Carl and Al quite often didn't play what seemed to be on the record anyway
221  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The on: November 22, 2019, 04:59:43 AM
I think there'd be a bit more 'shout' and a touch (a lot) less vibrato in a modern version of that
222  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: November 21, 2019, 06:14:59 AM
Donald Trump's speechwriter makes the case for the climate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pc-7oDP598g
223  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: November 21, 2019, 01:38:59 AM
Presale for London: https://www.axs.com/uk/series/10153/live-at-chelsea-presale-tickets?aff=ukaffthelist
224  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: November 18, 2019, 03:47:15 AM
https://www.standard.co.uk/go/london/music/beach-boys-live-at-chelsea-tickets-line-up-2020-a4289566.html

Surely not???

Quote
Original members Brian Wilson, Mike Love and Al Jardine will all take to the stage at the west London venue, and will no doubt play through some of the band’s best-known hits, from God Only Knows to Good Vibrations.

Oh they've edited that part out now :D
225  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: November 18, 2019, 03:42:32 AM
June 14 2020 - Royal Hospital Chelsea, London

(although the article announcing it appears to be a tad confused https://www.list.co.uk/article/112768-the-beach-boys-join-the-live-at-chelsea-2020-line-up-sign-up-for-presale-tickets/)

Thank you!

By the way the 'Royal hospital' is a special place in London where particularly venerated pensioners live out their last days.

You can make up the rest... :D
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