End of Show

That's something. I've never seen that ad before.  How 'bout you, Bgas?

And I can't remember ever seeing these self-made pictures of Murry from 1959 either.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/pictures/behind-the-scenes-with-brian-wilson-at-the-beach-boys-retrospective-20120927/7-0194239

Wow, Murry selfies! Scary!

I didn't think they existed since he's never had that hair style.

Awww, poor You and I, my personal fav of the album.

Have you all heard David Marks version? It's really good.

Don't be Scared.

Still going with Thoughts of You.

[UK/Europe indoor venues: 50+ songs in over two hours, hits, classics, deep cuts.]

^ Yeah, totally agree. I wish they'd add some more deep cuts. They have the ability to pull off songs that have never been played live before, so why not try?

Something concert performers rarely seem to do is adding some sort of theme to what songs are being played, like doing an entire album, start to finish. After seeing one M&B show, the idea of seeing another doesn't really excite me, but if they were to start playing all of 'Summer Days' in the middle of the show, I'd go out of my way to catch a M&B show! Imagine they performed every 'good' song that Mike sang lead on from 1963-1966 for their setlist? It would be something to talk about, that Mike is doing something new and interesting that has never really been done before. Their setlist has gone relatively unchanged for the last 30 years, it just seems like it would be a great way to make their shows noteworthy.

Also, a strange part of me does want to hear Goin' To The Beach live...is that normal?

Goin to the Beach is catchy so that is fair enough...

Obviously for us hardcore fans it would be great to hear more rarities. But I think Mike and Bruce know that most of their audience just want the hits. Ages ago I remember reading some reviews of old M&B concerts and there were a surprising number of comments like, `Sherry was the best received song`, `without the car medley the show didn`t really work`, `the crowd loved Duke of Earl` etc. I really don`t think the audience would want to hear `I`m Bugged at My Old Man` or `Summer Means New Love` for example.

The one good thing about this setlist is that they are playing comparitively few covers. Obviously the non-BB songs like Sherry, Duke of Earl and I Saw Her Standing There were dropped ages ago but now former regulars like Summertime Blues, California Dreaming, Little Old Lady and Back in the USSR are also missing. It is slightly better for the hardcore fans.

Mike & Bruce have at least three different setlists tailored to the needs of the occasion:

1 - outdoor fairs/racetrack/festival: meat & potatoes hits for Joe Q. Public. 90 minutes of good-times.

2 - indoor venues: somewhat longer, a few deep cuts.

3 - UK/Europe indoor venues: 50+ songs in over two hours, hits, classics, deep cuts.

Oh my gosh, everytime I read about a UK/Europe show, I get SO jealous. I just wish they'd stop by Indiana and on a whim, perform one of those setlist! I don't care if it's Everyone's in Love with You or the whole Country Love album! Actually, I'd much rather prefer they perform Looking Back with Love, First Love, Celebration, or Side 1 of the Almost Summer soundtrack albums.

Wow, never knew there was such dislike for What's Wrong nor did I ever figure it for filler...but I guess I can see why it would be by its lyrics, but that funky harmonica is such ear candy...Adam Marsland's performance on his perfect CW/DW Live Tribute made me realize how legit the song is and makes me sing it all the time to myself.

I think I might vote Thoughts of You, I used to really like it but I skip it a lot more lately.

Won't somebody dance with me



It's just so awkward and not in a good (BW-like) way...somehow Brian coulda made that tune work on Love You or Adult Child

These are some great insights and reviews! I appreciate it highly! Continue, I love reading all this. If anyone knows of a good site or message board to read more reviews and opinions on this topic, let me know.

I might have appreciated this soundscape more if it was on a DW solo album...either POB or Bambu

No....just no....

I am interested in knowing who were the back up musicians, incl. horn players, who played on the BB's live album Live in
London 1969 ( which was really recorded in 68).  I've tried a few searches to no avail.

Thanks for any direction!

I think Ed Carter played with them during this time

Hey folks,
I wasn't able to purchase many of those albums except Smiley Smile and Surfs Up... So I was wondering, for those who were able to purchase those and listened closely (on headphones perhaps?) if anyone could post their thoughts, reviews, and insights on what they thought of those releases...any of the albums really...I'd love to hear about how each individual album/track sounded compared to other audio such as vinyl releases, twofers, and what not.

Thanks in advance!

So someone synced up the Help Me Rhonda session with Murry's "help" over the 1966 London footage?
I think there's better audio to try to synch up like concert audio for the performance footage?

Has the 1966 London footage been released with its original sound and narration by Marianne Faithful? If not, why hasn't it?
I've seen releases for sale that are silent and with other audio dubbed onto it (like the "Help Me, Ronda" incident), but not the original.

What's the "Help Me Rhonda Incident?"

My (newer) ADULT/CHILD mix:

Life Is For the Living
Marilyn Rovell
Deep Purple
My Diane
Sherry She Needs Me
It's Over Now
Everybody Wants To Live

You've Lost That Lovin' Feelin'
Shortnin' Bread
Lines
Lazy Lizzy
Baseball
New England Waltz
Still I Dream Of It

Wow, that would have been a great Brian Wilson album! Basically The Beach Boys Love You Too...I like that Deep Purple, Shortenin' Bread, and You've Lost that Lovin Feeling are the only covers (not that I don't like Mony Mony or On Broadway), but these three covers are Brian Wilson (what should have been) signature solo covers. So much BW quirkiness on this album. I also like the use of the New England Waltz (from Get the Boot vol. 2 I assume.)

Whatever happened with this? http://rockfuelmedia.com/event/the-beach-boys-3d-live-at-the-hollywood-bowl/.

Apparently its the beach boys at the hollwood bowl and its supposed to be in Blu ray 3d. Anyone heard of this?

I have no interest in the 3-D aspect, but I do hope this C50 Hollywood Bowl video will ultimately be released.  Wonder if the video is completed and it's ready for release, or if a ton of editing work remains to be done.

Did this release have anything to do with the "kickstarter"-like program that eventually failed?

Whatever happened to the Smiley Smile.net wiki style site? I know it had bits and pieces on it for a while.


Also, what happen to the smile shop essays/opening pictures/artwork/quotes/timelines/and other whatnots? Did we lose the name of smile shop.net as a domain name? Did anyone save those sites? I saved (aka printed out) a lot of the essays...but not all of them.

Beck, Jeff. And Thomas in the back.

No more mullet Joe?

Though she also helped end it by suing Joe, so ...

The Thomas thing is complicated.

Suing for what?
If this shouldn't be discussed here, is there a link somewhere for further reading? Or is this "insiders info" like the whole Andy Paley disappearance?

All very true, thanks guys!
I love the insights.
And you're right, it doesn't matter how big a fan he is.

While reading David Beard's excellent article in the Examiner about Brian's journey for his new album, it raised a few questions in my head:

-the article mentions Don Was being involved with the project, which made me think, "what happened between Brian and Don Was that made them stop working with one another?" Or was I Just Wasn't Made for These Times Documentary/Soundtrack album just a "one off deal"? Wasn't Don Was part of the Beach Boys/Paley sessions? I can't remember, haven't read about that in a while.

-the article also mentions Joe Thomas working with Brian again...and I just gotta ask, what does Joe Thomas have as a producer/collaborator/friend that people like Andy Paley, Scott Bennett, Van Dyke Parks, Don Was, or Tony Asher don't have?  I'll be honest and say that I'm just a little bit jealous of their friendship and I just don't see Joe as a collaborator with Brian like I do the other guys. Joe also just seems like an everyday person and I also don't know or have heard of his talents outside of his production work with Brian.

An example of something that gets me about Joe is from the Nashville Sounds documentary, where Brian and Joe are listening to Caroline No and Brian says "I (or we) cried when we listened to this," and Joe replies: "yeah, we all did." Maybe I'm just not convinced of how big of a fan he is when he said that...and really, does it matter? Obviously not because Brian enjoys working with him. I guess I'm just jealous that as a big fan, I'd never have the chance to do something like work with Brian Wilson. And that's the thing, some musicians don't like collaborating with people who are big fans of their work, for all kinds of different reasons.

Who does the "YYEEAAHHH" at the end fade of I Do Love You?
Is it Carl or Stevie?

[- The version of "Still I Dream of It" I use is the booted demo where Brian coughs in the beginning and flubs during the bridge's "till then I'm just a dreamer" climax. It's rougher than the IJWMFTT edit for sure, but I feel the mistakes make Brian seem all the more human which subsequently pushes his cry for help to something all the more poignant.]

Love You is one of my favourite albums of all time but it's well noted as being a difficult listen the first time around. I've introduced both the album proper and a re-envisioned version to friends and most seem more receptive to my tracklist, probably because it's trimmer, more evenly dispersed and those who are fans of ballads don't have to wait till the second side to get to those songs.


Let Us Go On This Way
Roller Skating Child
I'll Bet He's Nice
Honkin' Down the Highway
Solar System
I Wanna Pick You Up

Johnny Carson
The Night Was So Young
Airplane
Mona
The Fairytale
Still I Dream of It


Notes on the inclusions:
- "The Fairytale" is the instrumental Mt. Vernon theme - it's a controversial addition, but I find it fits in just a little too seamlessly alongside all the other great synth work here to exclude it. It harkens back to the effectiveness of instrumentals like "Summer Means New Love" and "Diamond Head" in being a tasteful respite from the rest of the album's vocal harmony.

- The version of "Still I Dream of It" I use is the booted demo where Brian coughs in the beginning and flubs during the bridge's "till then I'm just a dreamer" climax. It's rougher than the IJWMFTT edit for sure, but I feel the mistakes make Brian seem all the more human which subsequently pushes his cry for help to something all the more poignant.

I like your thinking concerning the version of Still I Dream of It, you really thought about it. Some folks don't push for specific versions (booted or otherwise) but that all makes real good sense.
I'm very fascinated about your Fairytale instrumental idea....is this a "what if"/hypothetical recording or are you declaring a specific released/unreleased version?
I've always wondered about the lack of instrumentals in the 70s, besides the Mt. Vernon and Fairway material, there's not much. Perhaps Hey There Mama, but there's not much of an instrumental there.
Oh, and what Short Skirts supposed to be an instrumental for 15 Big Ones? 
The instrumental to Had to Phone Ya is fab!