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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: I'll Bet He's Nice piano demo on BW Instagram on: May 24, 2018, 02:30:06 AM
Does the better quality version include Mike saying "THAT IS A MOTHER F'ER!" at the end?

I actually think that might be a strike against this stuff being officially released.  AFAIK, they'd have to include an explicit content warning which might limit the sales (some retailers won't carry it).  Have they ever included session chatter that contained profanity?

Yes. In the Keep an Eye On Summer digital compilation, I remember during the ĎAll Summer Longí sessions Denny says ďG**dammit I hate this song.Ē after like 40 takes.

Given todayís advancements in audio editing, I would venture to bet it wouldnít be very hard to scramble Mikeís swearing enough without messing up any music playing behind it. Even faking a tape malfunction to garble that section of the track could be done - purists would whine for a day but it would allow parents to play it in front of their kids.

Iím with HeyJude though, weíve gotten videos like this before - in fact even recorded in the same style where there is perfect audio while someone records their computer screen. I have zero hope this is for a release, just another tease regarding some amazing material that should see the light of day. Too bad weíll have to wait the better part of a decade to get this copyright extension release for the Love You tracks. I hate that many fans may not even hear this brilliant material ever because Capitol wanted to squeeze out every penny they could for 50 years after release. Too bad some of the longest living fans are hurt by this decision.
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Royal Philharmonic Orchestra Album Discussion Thread on: May 10, 2018, 04:56:58 PM
After a hiatus from posting here I wanted to quickly comment on this new track.

Consider me someone who really likes what Iím hearing with ĎFun Fun Funí - and I was one of the haters when this project was first announced. I couldnít believe they were recording new percussion for these tracks - any percussion on the original tracks is already perfect. And with that said, all the original tracks are perfect anyways so why even bother?

But the orchestra adds an element to these tracks, I canít really define what it adds - it doesnít make the tracks better, it doesnít make them more spiritual, it doesnít add anything that was missing from the originals. But it adds something that interests me and keeps me listening to the track over and over again. Itís probably that I enjoy listening to a new take on these songs.

Anyways, Iím not here to debate the merits of this new release. Its coming out and thatís that - some will hate it, some will love it, some will think its meh...and more power to everyone for their opinions. For me, this sounds like it will be an album Iíll listen to and enjoy.

I hope everyone is doing well here!
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Unpopular Beach Boys opinions on: February 26, 2018, 02:10:08 PM
2HeyJude: What I mean is, it's difficult to listen to music & lyrics simultaneously. If smb. tells me to hear lyrics, it'll be difficult to hear music aspect - vocals, backing track. Besides, I dislike some lyric subjects - TM, surfing, banal boy meets girl/ vice versa to name few. If I did care about lyrics, about this dislike, I wouldn't like thousand songs with these subjects, would dub them "bad". That said, music to me in any case without doubt is significant in songs.

Though I dislike Wrinkles, a whole hell of a lot, I totally know what you mean. I do the same with pretty much the entirety of the Little Deuce Coupe album...because none of the car jargon makes any sense to me. I instead choose to listen to the harmonies as instruments, and I donít really hear lyrics but melodious sounds.

Take ĎSpirit Of Americaí, its one of my favorite Beach Boys tracks, but I doesnít really dig the lyrics at all. I mean they are very out-there to anyone who does listen to them: a song about a guy on the salt flats driving a rocket car, not many people can relate to those lyrics. But if you solely listen to the sound, its one of their best harmony tracks ever.
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 26, 2018, 01:34:06 PM
Do you like the song? Since you brought that quote in the 1st place means you agree with Dennis? I'm curious what you think about today's song.

Never assume, RR Wink I just thought I'd post that tidbit for newer fans who might not be aware of it. I'm not really a fan of this song. I never seek it out and I usually skip it (I don't skip many BBs songs). With that said, it was actually a pleasant surprise upon first listen. I agree with previous posters who cite the background vocals and instrumental as highlights and question the lyrics. I found this message board just prior to exploring the entire discography, so my expectations were incredibly low for certain songs/albums. I literally thought some of it would be unlistenable (e.g. MIU). Or that Smiley Smile would be so sparse, it would be essentially devoid of sound. So, I was pleasantly surprised or even blown away by some of it. In regard to 'Everyone's In Love With You', the harmonies are impeccable and as a result kinda stick out on 15 Big Ones. According to the back cover of 15 Big Ones, Daryl Dragon arranged the vocals. Dennis was probably impressed with those harmonies, like most of us are. Btw, I've been reading bits and pieces of Dreamer: The Making of Dennis Wilson's Pacific Ocean Blue, and in it, Daryl Dragon insists that as a co-writer of Make It Good and Cuddle Up he only contributed about 2% to Dennis' 98%. Just another tidbit.

I'll give 'Everyone's In Love With You' a 2.5

I skipped listening to MIU for years because I heard it was dogawful. But when I finally heard it I actually found it to be a consistently good listen. I think one of my favorite parts of The Beach Boys is their volume of output and their usual attention to detail when it comes to moments like those harmonies in ĎEveryoneís In Love With Youí. Each release usually has something good in it, each song usually has at least one good moment.

I looked up this song on Wikipedia, apparently it is about the Maharishi. Which makes the lyrics even more confusing, as I doubt everyone was in love with that guy. And while I donít really get all the car references in the early songs (and usually ignore the lyrics because of it while still enjoying the song) I can do the same with this. Still a pleasant listen.
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Ask the Moderators on: February 26, 2018, 09:51:44 AM
Solid advice indeed.
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 26, 2018, 06:38:22 AM
Lovely Rita by the Beatles
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 26, 2018, 05:26:40 AM
3/5

The instrumental and background harmonies are really beautiful. Mikeís singing is good but what the hell is he singing about?

Still everyoneís in love with you
Because you gave your love to everyone.


Is this about Jesus, some TM messiah, or a girl who gets around? I think if the lyrics were less confusing this wouldnít be the most hated song on the album.
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Ask the Moderators on: February 26, 2018, 05:11:21 AM
Guitarfool mentioned in one of his posts there that he joined to try and work out some peace between the two boards. After last weekís flairup it kind of made sense. Iím sure heíll still be a major part of this forum.

I gotta say, the ensuing posts that happened after GF showed up there ranged from welcoming to downright weird. Have anger of certain events that occurred here? Totally normal and I think everyone on both sides thinks theyíre 100% in the right about how they feel so it makes sense that people were a bit edgy about his arrival. But DrBeachBoy took it to a whole other level of wtf: taunts GF by name calling, admits he lied to bait Guitarfool in a post, then says he enjoys the smell of feces or something, then gets banned for some childish retort to the admin there; not really a gleaming example of the stability of the membership over there LOL

But things seem pretty sound now and Iím sure GFís membership there will prove to be positive for the fan community through the years to come. And all the usual kinks seem to be working themselves out as time goes on, DrBeachboys ban Iím sure wonít be the last from that group...it is kind of telling that no matter what board those guys are on, most of them get scolded or banned repeatedly.
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 25, 2018, 10:46:31 AM
I always got a major Pet Sounds vibe from You Can Do Better Than Me by Death Cab For Cutie.
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Songs Inspired by The Beach Boys on: February 25, 2018, 09:48:56 AM
Hot Rod High by The Knights

Right down to the falsetto it sounds a lot like The Beach Boys, I notice the credits on the 45 go to Gary Usher and Roger Christian. The thing that keeps it sounding directly by The Beach Boys? The chords sound way too generic to be anything done by Brian...or maybe itís the production. Either way it sounds inspired by The Beach Boys but itís far from capturing that magic.
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 25, 2018, 09:42:50 AM
3/5

The best part about this song is that Brian sounds like heís having fun with it. Outside of that, there is nothing beautiful or endearing about it, it sounds like a really simple cover of the song.
12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 2018 Record Store Day - The Beach Boys on: February 24, 2018, 11:23:59 AM
I don't know of anything personally but I would LOVE to see either  an official Adult/Child release, or maybe a collection of outtakes from the late 70s, early 80s (Stevie, Boys & Girls, Sweetie)

The ultimate release for me would be a proper release of the highlights from the Wilson/Paley Sessions.

Yes! Itís the perfect format and release for such an obscure record (that likely every voting member of The Beach Boys wouldnít want out in mass distribution form). I have never really been impressed by the RSD offerings when it comes to The Beach Boys; Bambu was an interesting idea, but I feel like the only thing Iíd be paying for is some album artwork as we already owned the tracks with the anniversary update of POB.

But a fully mastered Adult/Child? That would sell like hotcakes with us hardcore fans.
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 24, 2018, 08:18:06 AM
Mike's vocal makes my heart soar. Especially when he sings "you're not alone ya know I'm just a dial away"

5, beautiful song

Agreed. Each aspect of this song (vocally, instrumentally, lyrically) has a really quirky happiness to it.

5/5
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 23, 2018, 11:32:18 AM
Al definitely talked about it in a print interview (Rolling Stone?) during some of the sessions that eventually became NPP--I think maybe as far back as when it was still a Beck collaboration. And then I think he referenced it again in a podcast shortly before NPP came out, when he was saying he wasn't sure what was on the album.

It definitely sounds like he could have sung it. I wish he at least partly had. I think his voice suits it.

Yeah it wouldíve suited him really well. Thanks for the info!

@KDS, yeah, any more guest artists and it would feel much less like a BW album. But as a bonus track or something, wouldíve been great to hear.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Vocal edits, punch-ins + copy/paste vocals in BB songs on: February 23, 2018, 11:25:58 AM
Brianís falsetto on Getcha Back?
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 23, 2018, 11:23:36 AM
Life Suite or R&R record? I'd love either one. Smiley

Same, I honestly donít care either way. I think every BW solo record has a bit of charm and each one has at least a few gems/moments that stand out. And thatís all Iíd want whether it be from a life suite, rock n roll album, or even just some piano demos. Or if Brian wants to chillax and not visit the studio again thatís cool too.

Yes, of course. But I'd be a bit unhappy if his last released song were "The Last Song". It's so sad.

Wouldn't his last released song be "Run James Run"?

If that's his final song, while not great, at least it's better than The Last Song. 

Was that Del Rey version ever recorded? I would love to hear how different that version sounds if it exists.

Does anyone know about the genesis of Run James Run? I was under the impression it was more of an Al Jardine song for some reason. RJR has grown on me since I first heard it. I feel like Brianís music would benefit so much from mono mixing instead of stereo though - this song being a great example of that.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's next solo album (NPP followup) speculation and info thread on: February 23, 2018, 09:51:34 AM
Life Suite or R&R record? I'd love either one. Smiley

Same, I honestly donít care either way. I think every BW solo record has a bit of charm and each one has at least a few gems/moments that stand out. And thatís all Iíd want whether it be from a life suite, rock n roll album, or even just some piano demos. Or if Brian wants to chillax and not visit the studio again thatís cool too.
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / Polls / Re: Discuss Every Beach Boys Song Day By Day on: February 22, 2018, 05:39:17 AM
JK I think thatís the first time Iíve seen you not give a song 5 stars Shocked

3/5 for me. Itís nothing special, but itís also not dreadful either. I gotta admit, the production on this song (and the rest of the album) is crystal clear, even with that distorted sounding synth and guitar. Itís a wobbly start to a pretty great album.
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 10:48:07 AM
I think the best thing posters can do is accept all the things that this band has brought us - the good, the great, the bad, the ugly. Accept that Mike contributed a whole hell of a lot to the band, totally. Accept that Brian wasnít a perfect individual at times. Accept that Mike has a penchant for sticking his foot in his mouth, but also accept he had/has a bit to gripe about.

The second best thing for posters is the willingness to change your mind about your viewpoint if the evidence yields enough to warrant such a change. Iíve been pissed at Mike for the wrong reasons before, Iíve glorified certain parts of Brianís music that he didnít even write. Be willing to accept when youíre wrong or when youíre right. This goes for anyone on both sides of the spectrum.
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 10:39:46 AM
May I please ask about this one more time- after my original post in this thread, a user who was offended was calling me out in other threads that I wasn't a part of, and they also for whatever reason have multiple SSMB accounts and they used 2 accounts to talk smack to me.  Is one or both against the rules?  Will anything be done about that?

I would honestly call it a gray area: while two accounts arenít allowed, OldSurferDude had an old account here that he got banned from, iirc he lost his sign-in information after a long-time ban and made the Legendary account. After that the mods let him reset his password for his original account but OSD just started using his Legendary account as well. Iíd say since heís not trying to hide his original monicker with his newer account (everyone knows theyíre both OSD as both of their names imply) and everyone knows theyíre the same poster itís not really a problem.

As for him defending himself after you called his comment toxic pollution, as someone else said, you kinda put yourself in that situation. As for him dedicating a song to you, not sure if Iíd classify that as bullying but get clarification from GF or Billy about that. I think I mentioned it before, but PMing both mods may give you a quicker response.

That's how I remember the situation and why there are two accounts in this case. The login was blocked on the original, so a new one was set up, and when all the board mechanics got sorted out, the old one was accessible too. Nothing underhanded going on, just an old issue which was preventing logins, and this account wasn't the only one which has had similar issues since.

That's how I remember it - If I'm wrong, please correct, but there were login issues if I recall.

It's not the same issue as, say, Steve or his multiple accounts coming on with aliases to bash me.

Okay, why does he continue to actively use 2 accounts then?  If there are no login issues anymore then 2 shouldn't be necessary.  They both have 1300-something posts on them.  If 2 accounts aren't allowed, then this shouldn't be allowed.  Unless the guy secretly pays the server fees for this board or something, and gets more freedom to disregard the rules that everybody else follows.

And this actually really isn't that far off from Steve.  Just that one (OSD) is overtly out in the open and the other one is marginally, but not very well, attempting to be cloaked and failing at it.  

And OSD has decided to be silent ever since his original posts, I assume because someone in leadership told him that he screwed up and he should lay low.  

Kid, I donít even think OSD would care if the mods deleted his original account. The difference between OSD and Steve (if heís really doing some alias thing) is that OSD isnít trying to hide under multiple monickers for the sake of pretending to be two or more people. OSD is clearly OSD and both account names clearly show that. There isnít anything sinister going on, its an account snafu that honestly doesnít benefit OSD in the slightest, and again I say, Iím sure he doesnít care at all if one of those accounts gets deleted.

Iíll offer the same advice to you for the third time: contact the mods via PM. Iím sure someone here will eventually address your concerns publicly, but in my time here whenever I have an issue to discuss with any mod the fastest way to get a response is by contacting them directly, privately.
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 08:46:13 AM
Good point. Specifically that is why I hope Mike wouldíve pressed charges. Currently, kids are being arrested left and right for making stupid threats in the wake of what just happened in Florida. Shouldnít be any different for celebrities.

Right, and in the light of what happened in Florida, I don't think it would be a bad thing for social media to be monitored for that kind of thing. 

True that. The CDC monitors social media for outbreaks (they found that they could get more accurate predictions of sickness by pinpointing swarms of posts in specific areas about people not feeling well). I would hope the FBI would do something similar - within the confines of the law, but whatever you post on the internet publicly I think has every right to be analyzed by those whose job it is to stop crime.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 08:37:30 AM
Good point. Specifically that is why I hope Mike wouldíve pressed charges. Currently, kids are being arrested left and right for making stupid threats in the wake of what just happened in Florida. Shouldnít be any different for celebrities.
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: WIBN in final (?) Nancy comic strip on: February 21, 2018, 08:01:27 AM
May I please ask about this one more time- after my original post in this thread, a user who was offended was calling me out in other threads that I wasn't a part of, and they also for whatever reason have multiple SSMB accounts and they used 2 accounts to talk smack to me.  Is one or both against the rules?  Will anything be done about that?

I would honestly call it a gray area: while two accounts arenít allowed, OldSurferDude had an old account here that he got banned from, iirc he lost his sign-in information after a long-time ban and made the Legendary account. After that the mods let him reset his password for his original account but OSD just started using his Legendary account as well. Iíd say since heís not trying to hide his original monicker with his newer account (everyone knows theyíre both OSD as both of their names imply) and everyone knows theyíre the same poster itís not really a problem.

As for him defending himself after you called his comment toxic pollution, as someone else said, you kinda put yourself in that situation. As for him dedicating a song to you, not sure if Iíd classify that as bullying but get clarification from GF or Billy about that. I think I mentioned it before, but PMing both mods may give you a quicker response.

That's how I remember the situation and why there are two accounts in this case. The login was blocked on the original, so a new one was set up, and when all the board mechanics got sorted out, the old one was accessible too. Nothing underhanded going on, just an old issue which was preventing logins, and this account wasn't the only one which has had similar issues since.

That's how I remember it - If I'm wrong, please correct, but there were login issues if I recall.

It's not the same issue as, say, Steve or his multiple accounts coming on with aliases to bash me.

Hey now, itís clearly Steveís friend using Steveís internet on Steveís computer at Steveís house. I mean, that account may link to another IP address but I promise itís not Steveís friendís local public library!

Tbh, if there are actually aliases being used, Steve my man Iíd suggest you invest in some VPN app to block your IP address, you could probably talk to Mikeís Beard about setting it up. But it goes a long way to masking your IP from mods on any forum.
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 07:48:44 AM
I was reading a post on Facebook, something about Mikeís reputation beginning to get better in 2018. But in it it mentioned Mike having to hire extra security for him and his family after the 2012 C50 ending because of death threats he was receiving. Iím assuming that was in his book (that I havenít read), just wondered if someone could confirm that. What a shame if thatís true. I get he has a bad reputation, but why on earth would anyone stoop that low?

I've little doubt that it's true.  "Fan" is short for fanatic after all.   The deranged fan who killed Darrell Abbott in 2004 apparently did so because he was disappointed that Pantera didn't get back together.  

Truly scary.  

Wow. Itís just crazy that some fans of The Beach Boys would stoop that low. I mean talk about completely ignoring the idea that Brian wrote much of his music to bring goodness to the world. I get that a lot of us have negative commentary about some interviews Mike gives and other things, but threatening a manís family?

Did Mike press charges? In this day and age itís not difficult for law enforcement to track down people who make threats like these.
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Thread for various insignificant questions that don't deserve their own thread! on: February 21, 2018, 07:38:24 AM
I was reading a post on Facebook, something about Mikeís reputation beginning to get better in 2018. But in it it mentioned Mike having to hire extra security for him and his family after the 2012 C50 ending because of death threats he was receiving. Iím assuming that was in his book (that I havenít read), just wondered if someone could confirm that. What a shame if thatís true. I get he has a bad reputation, but why on earth would anyone stoop that low?

Mike does briefly touch on this in his book.

But that Facebook post is really odd. It's like someone hired a grade schooler to write a book report that doubles as a shill "fan" post to help out with ongoing bad PR issues.

No, Mike's reputation isn't taking a turn for the better in 2018 unfortunately. His most recent Mojo interview seems to indicate it's getting worse, not better.

Agreed. The person even writes that Mike is ďproving now a great person to interviewĒ with the ďarrogance of the past goneĒ - this person really does need to read the latest Mojo and the digs made at Al, Carl, and Brian that are in it.

Tbh a month ago I wouldíve started to agree with this person about Mikeís interviews...prior to that Mojo article Mike had about a year there where he was a stand-up guy in his interviews. I started to get the impression he had changed his mindset about things, or hired a PR person. But it looks like that bitterness isnít going away. Too bad.

Also, thanks for the confirmation.
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