Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.

Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?

Not yet...it'd be nice, though.

Just goes to show you how much great stuff is still out there. Next boxset I guess though.

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

It's been booted for years.

Best remaining track to have official release though. That's a classic as far as I'm concerned and I'm not sure it has been officially released has it?

Is Everybody Wants to Live out there? Because that's good

This is incredibly frustrating and I don't want to hear it illegally.

A smiley smile break is needed till I get my box set 

One of us. One of us. One of us.

Apparently the set is nothing but garbage so you might as well cancel your order. I mean, pick your topic and theres been a bitch and moan about it.

Guess my sarcastic review a few days ago was more art imitating life than I ever imagined.

Take your pick its sh*t because:

A. There are hits
B. There are B-sides
C: There are songs we've heard before
D: There are songs we haven't heard before
E: There are songs we havent heard before, we dont hear, but should have
F: There are songs we have heard before, we do hear, but shouldn't have
G: Invent your own POS idea and bitch about it.

Good effing vibrations indeed.

C? No, no, E!...Can I only pick one?

Dear God...the Smile Backing Vocals Montage is 8:32. Seriously. I don't own the Smile box (have the 2 CD download and the 2 LP vinyl), so I had no clue that they were wasting close to 9 minutes on something like that, especially given that it's previously released.

The "Good Vibrations" stuff that follows is also another waste of nearly four minutes. The biggest mistake of the boxed set is unquestionably losing 13 minutes of the rarities disc to Smile Sessions stuff. The only people this satisfies are those that are interested enough to purchase this six CD set and delve into the rarities and not interested enough to purchase the deluxe Smile Sessions boxed set. That's probably about 1% of this boxed set's purchasers.

Also, if you're going to include two sessions tracks that were previously released, why not just include stuff from the Pet Sounds box as well?

Going further, why the hell would you include two Smile Sessions pieces that weren't even good enough to make the standard Two-CD set? Again, probably because they're assuming there's enough people out there that purchased the 2 CD set and this box, but not the full Smile Sessions package. Either way, it's still a waste of time/money. We would've been better off with thirteen minutes of cuts that were on the previous career spanning boxed set that aren't on this one. "Still I Dream Of It" for example...

For some reason this post immediately made me think of the Israeli youth a few years back posting Nazi hate videos of themselves. Bizzaro even in its obscurity. What a world we live in to have someone bitch and moan about the shitty idea to iclude those crap Smile vocals eh?

To be clear though, it was a shitty idea.

I actually like to include the live version of Riot from the Big Sur Folk Festival instead of SDT

It feels like it's lacking something, the outro doesn't really work, I wish the mix emphasized the moog a big more, etc. But still, it is a rock solid track.

How does You've Lost That Lovin' Feeling sound compared to boots? How's Barnyard Blues?

WIBNTLA feels like a natural A-Side closer to me

Despite my only moderate gushing of the tune I do not feel the slightest bit let down in finally hearing it; I realised a long time ago that there is nothing on this earth that can live up to the hype this song has had put on it.

Agreed, it's a perfectly lovely song

Well Dennis sings the hell out of it, quite beautifully and I love the build up throughtout the second verse/chorus..... then it just kind of peters out. Any Dennis on Surf's Up would have been welcome but this falls a fair distance short of being worthy to close the album over the title track.

That's about how I feel as well. Sound of Free is still the one Dennis song from this era I wish would have been on the album. I need to listen to WIBNTLA more still, but I don't know if I like it more than either Sound of Free or California Slide honestly

Mike drools, Brian rooles

Probably not a good idea.

Yeah, probably...

Oh well too late!

Stuff like Where Is She? always interests me more to be honest, but I've always been a hardline Brianista. Still it's a fine song, would have fit right in on Surf's Up

I'm happy that CWTL fragment is on there, I've been hoping they'd release that for awhile now.

"Meant For You", holy puppy dog! The only time you will really love Mike Love whispering in your ears!  But a pony, Brian? Really??  - <hits replay>

This is one of the few things on the set I'm really interested to hear. Sounds like a lot of fun.

I hope folks will maintain a sense of proportion.  We're very, very fortunate…

I'm sorry but this is just so over the top I can't help but laugh. Take the guilt trip somewhere else.

Thinking about it more. They also f***ed up when it comes to "Heroes and Villains"...Disc Two features a whopping 11 minutes of that track. We get the extended two part version (which is far too long and feels more like studio sessions than something that's complete) and the single version. They probably should have just went with either the single version or the Smile-album version and spared us the extra 7 minutes or so.

I figured this would be an annoyance and looking at the time-listings and listening to these, I can't help but feel that the historical flow of this set is interrupted greatly by what's pretty much the same song three times in a half hour span.

Yeah I thought the same thing when I first saw the tracklist. There's something vaguely insulting about the whole release and I'm really not regretting not buying it now. In a couple of days stuff like WIBNTLA will just be up on youtube.

The same goes for the John Stewarts and Steven Colberts.  Except they insulate themselves with the cloak of "I'm just a comedian, so the joke's on you if you took me seriously!". As everyone said, you really should get info from multiple sources and get some perspective. That was my recommendation to Rocky.

I've slowly noticed Jon Stewart becoming gradually more jaded. His coverage of Paul and his somewhat hostile interview with Maddow were pretty refreshing but I really get the impression from stuff like that that things have...started to become less funny for him...

I agree with a lot of what you're saying with two exceptions. For one, I disagree with your conflation of leftism with democrats. Democrats, as far as I am concerned, are far from leftists. Second, while I am skeptical of most journalism, I wouldn't say that I "don't trust any journalism." Some journalism is more trustworthy than others. I think we should be far more skeptical of journalism that is organized by elite interests than journalism that works to present an alternative to the mainstream point of view.

I'm not conflating them really. I see the democratic party as the primary instrument of leftism in the united states. And the democratic party as an entity controls leftists and distorts the sentiment and agenda they share, subjugating them to its own aims. I had given leftism a pass up until that point *because* of the nice face the mainstream gave it. When I rejected the democratic party and dissociated myself from the popular leftists I was no longer able to excuse anything.

I've read Kolakowski's "Main Currents of Marxism", as well as the "Black Book of Communism", and believe me, I am beyond sympathy for leftism. I studied econ undergrad at Uchicago and I simply do not respect Marx as an economic thinker. My primary intellectual interests today are with German Idealism. I'm very interested in Herder, the true founder of the social sciences, and have studied the dismantling by Kant of his proto-Marxist student with a lot of interest. I also think Schiller's Aesthetic Education preempts and frankly annihilates Marxist revolutionary sentiment.

I'm just not a leftist, and it's honestly not simply a matter of me not understanding things well enough.  

People are probably better off reading/watching/listening to the major networks, the smaller internet sites, and talk radio and then figuring sh*t out for themselves from there. Neither side is going to give a 100% unbiased report.

I wouldn't even go so far as to include the major networks in that. As someone who followed the Paul campaign last time around it was an eye opening experience to see exactly what game they were playing painted in such a revealing light. Maybe there's a host here or there who will run a piece every once in a while of some substance, but in general I'm no longer able to really even trust them for coverage on anything anymore.

Rachel Maddow is a huge joke. I never knew how bad she was really until 2010. During the midterms some scientist or professor from a west coast university was running as a republican for the house. I saw her "interview" takedown piece of him being passed around and I was really surprised what a smarmy little pos she was to him.

As a professor he had put out a newsletter for years. In one place, in the 80s or 90s, this guy had written a few paragraphs offhand in his newsletter saying basically, "the scientific community has more or less agreed the hiv causes aids. I feel as if political motivations have maybe led to this hypothesis being accepted more quickly than was prudent as recently these specific studies X, Y, and Z have raised some challenging questions for this hypothesis." I remember then the final line was something pretty close to "ultimately it will only take a single paper to settle the matter".

I was really disgusted how the last line was being deliberately misinterpreted, as if to say "and *this* is that paper", but it's clear he wasn't considering his newsletter to be a scientific paper, he was simply saying more research was needed. Which I don't care how politicized and tumultuous the aids issue is/has become, that's a fucking good thing. Period. It's what science should always be doing every day regarding every piece of information it believes it knows.

In this interview she just constantly interrupted him, and then when he complained about being interrupted, she actually had the gaul to start mocking him for not understanding satellite delay by saying he "didn't understand the speed of light" or something like that. Even taking that delay into account there's no question she was interrupting him though, and just being generally rude and dismissive.

This video was proliferated across the internet by smug, asshole liberal democrats, who patted themselves on the back and jerked one another off about how smart and progressive they all were, and how republicans were all so woefully regressive and bad.

...

I would say, that was the exact moment I consciously abandoned leftism and turned my back on the democrats for good.

I don't trust any journalism. I like al jazeera well enough for their fairly balanced coverage, but dislike the opinions of their editorial staff a lot. zerohedge is great. Hyperbolic, somewhat too eager, and not to be trusted (like all economic news) when it comes to concrete predictions certainly, but really perceptive and intelligent from a pure econ standpoint. I check drudge report sometimes as well, but in general there is no single news website I really trust or endorse.

This has been one of my favorite social/political exchanges EVER!    

Friggin' hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=Zf2CdJwbhsg&t=417

yep.