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26  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: September 14, 2021, 06:17:55 PM
Elvis Presley - Until It's Time for You to Go (Take 5 - Official Audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugeoRKkZdo




Elvis Presley - Until It's Time for You to Go (Take 5 - Official Lyric Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZz1lZqHXs

What's your thoughts on this track?


Well, it's ok but I'm not blown away. I love the strings on the master take, especially the lonesome violin, so I miss those.
But as with so many of the '71 recordings, Elvis doesn't go the extra mile, therefore staying behind the song's potential. If this was 1970 it would be a totally different story. But let's face it, for the most part 1971 was not a particularly strong year when it comes to studio recordings. There are some very good ones but not enough to justify the release of such a boxset imo.

What do you think?

I agree, its Elvis, but not as he could be.
27  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Elvis Presley on: September 14, 2021, 02:13:12 AM
Elvis Presley - Until It's Time for You to Go (Take 5 - Official Audio)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wugeoRKkZdo




Elvis Presley - Until It's Time for You to Go (Take 5 - Official Lyric Video)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yOZz1lZqHXs

What's your thoughts on this track?
28  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 07:36:08 PM
I really love lots of it
29  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: August 26, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
I really love Before
30  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 'CHAOS' The new Manson book on: August 24, 2021, 12:02:07 AM
I had read about Tom O'Neill's book and had already explored probably more than the average amount of Manson related histories and theories, and had a pretty solid opinion that most people didn't know the full truth about Charles Manson and how deep the story actually ran beyond Bugliosi's "Helter Skelter" account, which seems to still be the accepted mainstream version of events.

But holy crap, when Tom O'Neill was interviewed by Joe Rogan last April about the book...some of the details were brand new, mind-blowing, and pretty much takes the accepted history and mainstream knowledge of the Manson story and ripped it to shreds.

I'd highly recommend the book to anyone with even a passing interest of the story, and even more of an interest in hearing the full story behind the accepted versions everyone knows.

O'Neill is the real deal, in my opinion. He literally lost his career and a lot in his personal and financial life (it basically bankrupted him with various lawsuits and the like) in order to write and research this book. It took him over 20 years or so to finish it. I don't think the Manson story has ever been told in such detail and with such background in one resource.

What readers may find is that they share O'Neill's frustrations in that his research would get him half a step from a true "smoking gun" document or source which would nail it together, only to find those key pieces of evidence were either lost or destroyed. So it becomes a huge collection sometimes of circumstantial evidence, or a collection of everything that would fit...akin to a 5,000 piece puzzle...but the last piece after 4,999 fit would be missing.

Short synopsis of a few key points and questions I had prior to the book, with more after the book: Vincent Bugliosi was a deeply flawed man who used tactics most would find immoral if not distasteful in order to win a conviction. So to convict Manson, Bugliosi spun a tale which he thought would convince a judge and jury to win the case. But it wasn't even touching on many (if not most) key areas and individuals involved with Manson. What was left out begs the questions why was it left out, or who wanted it left out? And why did Bugliosi mess with testimony and eyewitnesses as the claims are that he did?

Next, and even more compelling if not disturbing: How were Manson and Lee Harvey Oswald's killer Jack Ruby connected?

That alone is worth reading the book.

And that specific issue also raises the questions of how and why Charles Manson got multiple "get out of jail free" cards after his release, specific to when he was floating around San Francisco in the mid 60's, when any number of infractions he committed would have caused most parolees' parole to be immediately revoked and they'd be sent back to prison. Manson had someone (or something) watching over him, it would seem, and he kept skating by and stayed out of prison when anyone else would not have had such luck with the justice system.

It's fascinating reading. No more spoilers. But here's O'Neill on Joe Rogan's show for 3 hours discussing it:

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x7tcmg3

Anyone who believes Bugliosi's "Helter Skelter" accounts, or who wishes to just close the book on Manson entirely for whatever reasons, should seriously consider at least listening to the interview at that link, and reading the book, and then seeing if those opinions of the Manson story change at all. It feels like we've been sold a false bill of goods for 50 years after doing so.

Hard pass on Rogan. The blokes wanker.
31  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Demos posted to Brian Wilson's website on: July 21, 2021, 07:05:44 PM
It's great to see the Lucky Old Sun session video too, that's been one of my favorites so far. Something that further blows to bits those wacky notions on how "involved" Brian was in that and other projects of the past 20+ years. You see it right on the video, it could have been 1965 as much as the 2000's to see the man working in the studio producing and building up the tracks.

It's great to have them all collected in one place now, with the ones that had been digital posts previously alongside "new" releases. The quality is amazing. And that Smile session material...wow.

And the good man himself sitting next to Brian in the video.
32  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: September 20, 2020, 07:06:12 PM
[







How legit is this?

Hi!
These are 3 acetates that were found in Dennis Wilson's garage. The songs themselves are early versions of "Do It Again", "San Miguel" and "Time To Get Alone." Enjoy!

Tracklist & Timestamps:
00:00 - Do It Again
02:09 - San Miguel
04:42 - Time To Get Alone



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twPLdPcaRCY

Hmmmm
33  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: September 16, 2020, 05:36:22 PM
I really need to get back on here more often.
34  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 30, 2020, 06:05:33 PM

As the official BRI consultant, I was asked my opinion throughout and consulted with brains and heart.
I got the box green-lit by the label.
I saved it from dying on the vine TWICE.


Howie your wordplay makes Van Dyke Parks look like a grade-schooler - impressed with what you've done there.

How is this "wordplay"?
Who else is coming here and telling you about this box set and being as straight as possible?
Don't worry about that comment Howie, thank you for your contributions here.
35  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Feel Flows box set on: July 29, 2020, 06:00:04 PM
Thank you to Howie and Jon for your contributions. This band has the capacity to elicit many, many emotions.
Anger is generally reserved for one core member/recipient, the trumped up talisman from the Baldwin Hills.
I'd suggest the blockage sits in his lap.
36  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: July 13, 2020, 07:40:56 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OdFReAI7xM
If Covid-19 was a performance
37  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: The Official BB You Tube Thread on: February 20, 2020, 03:40:21 PM
Knebworth rehearsals

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0vqjf5X_88&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR2iJ2a2LsOsGD6oVx7ggWg_-QzZuum1lW0e7pFe8BedFitlbdqUi1ItfjI

Thunder claps in the background and all.
38  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Live At Nassau Coliseum, Uniondale, NY. June 14th 1974, National FM-Broadcast on: October 23, 2019, 04:34:58 PM
"i'd like to dedicate this next song to Kikki Dee cause I think she's outta sight!"- Dennis Wilson
39  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: September 01, 2019, 11:49:18 PM
Horeendous
40  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys 2019 Tour Thread on: June 26, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
f*** me dead! That's horrendous!!
41  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Circle of Influence: Brian and Disney on: June 02, 2019, 10:27:19 PM
It would be great if they did meet!
42  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Hal Blaine on: March 11, 2019, 03:46:35 PM
Massive movement in our world, gifted, gifted human.What a career!! Rest in Peace.
43  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Rocky Pamplin's THE BEACH BOYS' ENDLESS WAVE completed and published on: December 04, 2018, 09:58:41 PM
"If Mike wasn't such a wanker it would be immensely easier to overlook his lack of any real talent..."


If someone famous didn't actually say that, they should have!


Was that me?
44  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FINALLY ! . . . . . . Part Two (suspended) on: October 10, 2018, 08:40:33 PM
Carl singing the lead from that 96 tour your post referred to Stephen. Privileged to say I heard him sing it live several times. Along with GOKs, a highlight of any Beach Boys concert.

https://youtu.be/dZIqi9UnQH0

Man alive. Carl sounds great there!


Now you could understand Carl sounding like Blondie in this clip from 96, but he doesn't...........
45  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FINALLY ! . . . . . . Part Two (suspended) on: October 09, 2018, 06:37:02 PM
There is a very obvious and glaring response to this, I have pm'd it to a person I have utmost respect for.
Thanks again for all the great work you have done and continue to do Stephen, I regret making my initial observation and the subsequent sh*t storm that followed.
46  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FINALLY ! . . . . . . Part Two (suspended) on: October 08, 2018, 03:46:12 PM
Oh sh*t, look what I started.
47  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FINALLY ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Part Two on: October 05, 2018, 12:05:12 AM
WIBNTLA sounds majestic, wow!!
SOS doesn't sound like Carl on lead to my ears.
48  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: FINALLY ! . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Part Two on: October 05, 2018, 12:00:59 AM
WIBNTLA sounds majestic, wow!!
49  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: David Marks Arrested on: July 29, 2018, 04:24:11 PM
Does anybody really give a sh*t what Marks would have to say in a Q&A. He hasn't been with the group since 1963. He was only brought back into the group because Carl died.

I’d imagine far more people give a sh*t about what Beach Boy David Marks has to say in a Q&A than do what some random poster—you, for instance—has to say on a Beach Boys message board.
Well let's see what my credentials are : first saw the BB's live in 1969, have met and spent a modest amount of time with all six Beach Boys, co-sponsored the first two Beach Boy conventions in the San Francisco Bay area, seen the original Beach Boys over forty times in concert and spent thousands of dollars regarding my obsession with Brian and the boys. So yeah , I'm a random poster but I think that my opinion matters and carries some weight. Oh, and I actually use my real name when I post.
And that gives  you a free pass to be a wanker?
50  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Everyone back together for a Beach Boys Q&A for Sirius XM? on: July 25, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
A Beach Boys album Captain by Mike love? That would be horrific. Just look at his solo album which is terrible. I can't see this getting done anyway because I just don't see Brian and Mike working together again in a productive environment. Interview them and let it be.
Mike's album is pretty good; certainly not any worse than the stuff coming out under Brian's name in recent years.
Are you fair dinkum?
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