yeah, why not. Maybe I'll win the grand prize, I subscribed

 I wonder if the writer was paid for cribbing this article.

Yep, total cut and paste job from 2012.

For the next McCartney show, will he cut and paste a bio from the Beatles' 1966 tour?

He also uses a photo of Mike's band, but it's an outdated one with Christian Love and Randell Kirsche.

what was it cut from?

Isn't there a well known BB song at the end?

No. It ends with Eddie Vedder's cover of Big Hot Sun.

Oh, I'm thinking about the film "The Wild" with Reese Witherspoon.

Don't think that's it, as there's not a BBs song listed: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2305051/soundtrack?ref_=tt_trv_snd 

Perhaps you're thinking of Feel Flows over the end credits of Almost Famous? 
GOK from the closing scene of Love Actually?

I appreciate the points brought forth here by everyone, but I think  Mr. Desper is owed a greater degree of respect, whether or not you agree with all of his precepts and conclusions.

I agree that Stephen is owed a lot of respect, and we are blessed by his participation in this board, but I don't believe anyone is above courteous, fact-based debate.

Lee

Sounds as if you're saying Stephen is lying.
For me, we have a known entity which is Stephen Desper, stating his case.
The other side is lukpac. Do you know anything about this person Lee?
I, personally, know nothing of/about them. I've seen no credentials; nothing that says they're anything more than someone that wants to argue that they''re right and Stephen is wrong.
Put up or shut up I say

True that, still kicking myself for not buying that 1st pressing of sunflower from the record store!

COMMET: Connect your computer to your stereo system and you can hear that very album.

Go to [ http://swdstudyvideos.com ] and find the "Sunflower" button. Follow directions and Click.

~swd

 With all that's gone down here, I just don't see how connecting a digital computer to any stereo system, even an audiophile, is going to reproduce the identical sound as would be derived from listening to the original releases in their original mediums

SO, The November 4th Benefit show; General admission tickets are $300 each. VIP are $500 each.  
VIP event:  

VIP  TICKETS  INCLUDE:
*Sound check with Brian Wilson and the band!
*Signed Brian Wilson/Love & Mercy merchandise
*Reception of heavy hors d'oeuvres and open beer, wine, and soft drink bar
*Souvenir lanyard
*Priority Seating for the concert (PURCHASE YOUR TICKETS EARLY FOR THE BEST SEATS!)

Join us for an evening of music and celebration with legendary musician and co-founder of the Beach Boys Brian Wilson, Beach Boy Al Jardine, and their band. Special guest appearance by Paul Dano, who plays the young Brian Wilson in the film Love & Mercy. This magnificent, yet intimate venue is the perfect setting for enjoying a special concert benefiting Give an Hour and its mission to provide free mental health services to military members, veterans, and their families.

 5:00pm - 5:45pm - Sound check with Brian Wilson and the band! Signed Brian Wilson/Love & Mercy merchandise
(VIP ticket holders only)
 7:00pm - Reception with heavy hors d'oeuvres and open beer, wine, and soft drink bar
 8:00 - 9:30pm - Brian Wilson Concert


Edit:  OH, By the way, tickets went on sale this morning, so you better hurry....

Judging by Stephen Desper's most recent post ( in another thread) all but the LPs are a complete waste of time/$$
And those may also be a waste, I leave that to those more knowledgeable than I

My ears are 58 years old, so I'm not too worried about all that (I read that too). For my ears, computers get the analog to digital close enough for me. Besides, digital has spoiled my ears. I really bothers me now whenever an album has loud pops and crackles. Dare I say this, but these AP releases should be my last purchase of these albums.

I really need to save your post, where I'll remember and be able to find it easily, when the next big thing comes along and you have to buy those....

Tho, you could invest in a $50,000 analog/turntable sound system and just buy LPs

Judging by Stephen Desper's most recent post ( in another thread) all but the LPs are a complete waste of time/$$
And those may also be a waste, I leave that to those more knowledgeable than I

MAN!!!   
I just LOVE when we get a post by someone that really knows their sh*t, explaining it all in minute detail. 

Thanks Stephen!! 
OH! Wish I had heard even a small part of your "fly on the wall" BBs sessions...

HA!!  You've fallen for the trap yet again.... 

Just make up your mind NOT to buy these, as I did!  ( Got to save my $$ for the collectibles I'm missing and will never find)

what resolution is that one?

Wild Honey would be so fun for a little mini-set to pull for 3 or 4 nights of a tour, that band could totally handle it... and can't you just imagine them playing the opening of "Aren't You Glad," it'd sound great with BW/AJ/MJ swapping verses maybe. Blondie on Wild Honey and one of those side two numbers, Darian on Darlin...

But bring on the Pet Sounds! Interesting festival lineup.

Some of those 60s albums are short enough that they could knock out two albums in a show. Obviously, the horror, that might not leave a lot of room for other songs like "Barbara Ann."

Hmm, Easy remedy:  Each show will always have Beach Boys Party as one of the two albums performed

Those aren't the original lyrics (in the sense that they were recorded for release, then dumped): they're scratch, or dummy lyrics, never intended to be anything more than placeholders. Guy named Asher told me that.

Yet Dennis sang those same early lyrics in an attempt at a lead vocal, so I'm wondering just how much were they a placeholder or scratch set of lyrics if Dennis took a shot at recording a lead vocal with them? Brian, Carl, and Dennis taking various lead vocals on those words, it seems like it could have been more than a placeholder. If it were just Brian doing a guide vocal, it would make more sense, but not Dennis doing them as well.

I was told the same thing, or more specifically that Tony thought they were not going to be his final lyrics, that he thought he and Brian were going to revisit the song but it didn't happen. The Boys may have thought of them as a finished lyric at the time.

I wonder if they were actually also the lyrics when VDP was asked to write new lyrics for GV. I'm pretty sure VDP has said that GV rewrite was the first thing discussed when he started. Vosse seems to put the beginning of the BW/VDP collab in August, which is also supported by Frank Holmes memories, which would be too early for Mike's lyrics.  These would also be the lyrics Macca would have heard at Derek Taylor's GV listening party too wouldn't they (if they heard lyrics)?

Or am I confused?

I'm focusing on the fact that Dennis sang a lead vocal with those earlier GV lyrics, along with what we know was most likely a "scratch vocal" from Brian on the recording most have already heard and whatever Carl did with it as well.

The point is, a scratch vocal from Brian would make perfect sense, in a way that would be the placeholder as a track in the flow of the recording process. Brian would lay down rough vocals, guide vocals, often demo the actual parts too, and then deal those parts out to whichever band member would be doing those parts. We know he did that on other tracks especially in 1966 where we can actually hear them.

So if those lyrics were just placeholders, why would Dennis then be singing lead on the track with those lyrics at that point in the process? Does it make sense to have Dennis bothering to sing a lead vocal using lyrics that were nothing but a placeholder? I don't think it does, and I also think there is more to it. That's the challenge.

My point is Tony may have considered them scratch/placeholder lyrics but Brian and the Boys don't seem to have.

seems like the two of you agree. Whew!!  Now we'll have whirled peas

OK.

I happen to disagree.  So?

I'd have preferred SMiLE by light years.  SS was, for my tastes...and given the time-frame and how it all played out right there and then, the album which forever killed the momentum and forced the group out of the limelight and fairly deeply into the shadows.  Why?  They immediately ceased to be an important recording unit with the record buying public.  Smiley Smile...kind of made Murry right.  And when that happens the album can NOT be championed.

But it doesn't matter what you would have preferred, Smile was not to be.
  The momentum was lost by the long wait between new LPs, NOT  on account of the new one being Smiley.
One has to think they would still have lost momentum had Smile been released,  instead of Smiley, given the long wait.

So, will Brian and Al be performing Smile live in 2017?  

WHY would anyone expect them to perform  50th anniversary shows for an unreleased album ?

(I'd love to experience a live performance of the Wild Honey album, myself.)

 This would be fairly short show; maybe Al could do it by himself?

No great shakes, added another tape to the collection today.

I never read any of the posts here or elsewhere relating to seeing, or to the content of, the movie...until this afternoon.  I did not want to spoil a scene or a second of it for my own viewing experience.  Watched it yesterday...and again today.  Brian's perspective.  Melinda's too.  As much as I felt I had a grip on the story I never had an inkling of how it all would have been witnessed and felt by Brian...well at least the Landy part and on.

It was always clear that Brian's standards far outreached that of most others.  His frustrations were always relatable.  I wish they'd have left deleted scenes IN the film.  I think they help to better explain the story to those who didn't immerse themselves in it the way MANY of us did along the way and down through the years.

I am going to assume given time restraints which likely impacted on edits, as it is widely believed that 'todays' movie goer doesn't have the ability to concentrate or sit still for more than 90 minutes, that certain subject matter and ideas/points were glossed over in order to touch on stuff without killing the story... ... ...BUT!!!

Something buried insdie the picture hit me yesterday...and again today during my 2nd viewing of Love and Mercy.  It's the sequence where Brian is at the studio...thumbing through the many SMiLE tapes and the asshole father wanders in to ask if Brian had fired everyone else in the band like he had fired dear old dad.  HERE'S the part that grabbed me.  Brian explained that 'they' were all off working on a remake/ a simpler version to be called Smiley Smile.  THEY were off doing THAT w/o Brian D. Wilson.  He was still living and breathing his creation as it lay before him in contemplatable form.  They were off fiddlin' around with it and drawing moustaches on the Mona Lisa.  Seems to me...and Love and Mercy seems to be approved by Brian as being pretty frighteningly factual that he doesn't deserve the blame for Smiley Smile.  Just a point in a movie that is FAR MORE important in terms of all of the other KEY ground and nuances that it covers.

I loved it...as my empathetic self mourns Brian's many losses and celebrates the fact that in spite of it all...he miraculously won.  He, against almost all odds [save super-talent and Melinda...for the most part], won a chance to live and experience/enjoy a little sweet sanity for a freaking change.  What a guy!

Why anyone on earth would think there's any blame to be spread for Smiley Smile is beyond me. I LOVE IT!  It's GREAT!!!!  Blame for Smiley is so wrong headed....

just posted on Brian's FB: 

>>
Billy Hinsche will be joining Brian on some upcoming Fall shows!

Billy Hinsche
 I am so honored to have been asked to do a few shows with the great Brian Wilson this October - my good buddy, Darian Sahanaja, has another project he is involved with so I have the good fortune of subbing for him during his absence, and he'll be back in November ... !!!
<<

Based on the descriptions so far, why would anyone else want to bother? 
They don't trust you and just HAVE to check it their self? 
That's nutty. but I guess if you have $$ to burn...

Hi, All -- new to this board, so hope I get it right.   Just finished the Carl Wilson Biography (kindle edition) and to say I was disappointed is putting it mildly.  The author basically just took information from all the other books written about the beach boys, as well as the "Here and Now" video, done by Billy Hinsche.  I did not learn one new thing about Carl.  The book went into great depth about his guitar playing skills, with a lot of history about different albums.  Brian's name was mentioned as much as Carl's. 

The book is 260 pages not including the index, etc. The 1980s and 90s are covered in the last 11-12 pages, and the 1990s are covered literally on pages 259 and 260. I don't think I've ever seen a BB-related book that rushes through the end like this. The last eight years of the life of the subject of the book, a tragically short life, are covered in two pages.

Kudos for the idea to do a book on Carl. Sounds like the author is a nice guy too. But bummer that the book turned out like this.

Received my physical copy yesterday. Really nice print job -  high quality paperback sleeve with "gatefold" style flaps; nice paper stock; good photo repro.

Thumbed through it briefly; the little I scanned seemed to confirm what bb4ever and HeyJude are saying.

The author's notes imply a good number of interviews were conducted for the book though, with Marilyn and Billy H among others – when I get into the text I'm hoping those bits might shed more light but I'm not too optimistic.

I just put a cancel on my pre-order.  I will wait until a lot more is known.  I was a bit concerned when the writer didn't show up here to promote the book, like Jim did.  I'm very disappointed that the 80's and 90's are breezed over.  How could he not cover Carl's solo period?  Amazon America bumped it to mid-October yesterday anyway.

John, is this a British book?  It sure didn't come out here, or they would have shipped it...mine had been on pre-order for months.  $15 isn't a lot to ask, but I do expect to learn something new.

Glad am I for not ordering this book;  really, my not giving a crap has been validated..
Seems to me it doesn't matter HOW many interviews the author claims to have done if the book just regurgitates information already available.
Does anyone really care whether it's a nice looking printing job or the "author" is a nice guy?

Nah, he's above that...get it? 

nah, what on earth do you mean?

It appears you can purchase the complete mag here or download it from UK iTunes maybe?
http://recordcollectormag.com/articles/hindsight-is-2020

or subscribe and read it "free" online.... 

Probably could ask Ken to try and find his recordings and maybe get them that way

Is your reply about the Jamake Highwater interview from '68 (which is what I was asking about; sorry for the confusion) or about the Made in California one that your link goes to? If the latter, thanks because I didn't see that before either!

If the former, then I'm confused and I apologize if I'm just dense.

Re the MIC; didn't re-read back far enough to see the 68

Well you provided me with tonight's reading, so thanks again.

well, you're welcome! 
Here's a snippet of Jamake to read: http://beachboysnews.blogspot.com/2012/01/brian-wilson-interviewed-by-jamake.html
here's a snippet to listen to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIRf8e1sZRg 
  and another:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hvzc2UXl9BU 
There's LOTS of links to follow there....

It appears you can purchase the complete mag here or download it from UK iTunes maybe?
http://recordcollectormag.com/articles/hindsight-is-2020

or subscribe and read it "free" online.... 

Probably could ask Ken to try and find his recordings and maybe get them that way

Is your reply about the Jamake Highwater interview from '68 (which is what I was asking about; sorry for the confusion) or about the Made in California one that your link goes to? If the latter, thanks because I didn't see that before either!

If the former, then I'm confused and I apologize if I'm just dense.

Re the MIC; didn't re-read back far enough to see the 68

It appears you can purchase the complete mag here or download it from UK iTunes maybe?
http://recordcollectormag.com/articles/hindsight-is-2020

or subscribe and read it "free" online.... 

Probably could ask Ken to try and find his recordings and maybe get them that way