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101  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BBs scary travel experiences, or mishaps on the road on: April 10, 2016, 02:12:18 AM
One thing that ticks me off is people quoting from the setlist site (not Eric 's wonderful one) because almost all the old shows they list were copied from the research Andrew and I did for bellagio over the years. Only difference is that when we find an error at bellagio we update it while those other sites that copied us just keep the old errors we've corrected.  What I'm saying is that the only accurate source of such info is the gigs and sessions section of bellagio hosted by esq and compiled by Andrew and I with help and input from friends like c man and bgas

Thanks for the compliment on my site, although it is in major need of updating. I do plan to do a major update at some point. SetlIist.fm is cool in a way, but it's the Wikipedia of setlists. Anyone can contribute and change and edit at will, and with that comes a lot of uncertainty. Part of what takes so long when I post setlists on the archive is that I check to see if things make sense in context, and I try not to post "from memory" setlists unless they are from eras that are underrepresented, and I'll always make a note of it. Undoubtedly, there are still inaccuracies on my site, but I'd like to think the quality control I implemented over the years made a difference!
102  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Probably the biggest historical Beach Boys find in years,$10 million value on: April 09, 2016, 06:35:20 PM
My bad, I should have checked the date of the article.
103  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Probably the biggest historical Beach Boys find in years,$10 million value on: April 09, 2016, 06:08:22 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2306391/Lost-Beach-Boys-lyrics-music-photographs-expected-sell-10m-lying-Florida-storage-unit-years.html
104  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Happy Birthday No Pier Pressure on: April 08, 2016, 12:47:56 AM
For some reason, it feels like an eternity ago for me, rather than the year seemingly going by fast.  I did listen to this heavily last summer and fall, particularly on hikes.

I'd agree with the person who said that they skip "Our Special Love" and "The Last Song".  Those are definitely my least favorite tracks by far.  The tracks I enjoy the most are "Whatever Happened", "Tell Me Why", "The Right Time", "Saturday Night" and my absolute favorite "I'm Feeling Sad".
105  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Found \ on: April 06, 2016, 09:01:49 PM
Almost Summer and Cruisin were on the Almost Summer soundtrack.

On this LP, I've always enjoyed She's Just Out To Get You, probably Mike's most spirited lead vocal ever! And Song Of Creation is great. Could have been a hit if done by a more well known group.

Country Pie is a bit grating to my ears. Gettin Hungry is good, definitely different than the original, but perhaps a minute too long and drags toward the end.
106  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Most embarrassing Beach Boys moment caught on tape? on: April 02, 2016, 10:15:42 PM
Found it!  Here it is, in all its glory:

https://youtu.be/1K7h7IICAs0?t=1m16s

Yikes. Not a whole lot in that promo that's aged well.  Sad



That little five second excerpt! Can't imagine how anyone chose that five second clip for this promo!
107  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love book out in September on: March 30, 2016, 12:48:59 AM
Interesting he chose a group photo without Alan......

I can see that being interpreted either way. It could be a group-politics-motivated decision, or they may have just been looking to use one of those early-era pictures that evoke the band's earliest days. A lot of books and articles use those early Al-less shots.

Until it was mentioned here, the early BB photo on the cover, with Dave and thus sans Al, never occurred to me to be a slight toward Al. I saw/see it as representing the span of time from the early BBs (in photos) to ML today in the top photo.

I'm totally looking forward to Mike's book, as I am Brian's. Wonder to what extent Mike realizes that the reality is that there is no way Brian is going to come across poorly in his forthcoming autobio, while it's up to Mike to show some humidly and counterbalance his braggadocio concerning the biggest hits by also focusing on being the guy who wrote the lyrics to stuff like The Warmth of the Sun and Please Let Me Wonder, rather than continually harping on the success of Kokomo. (And Kokomo is a song I love, btw. Initially I was going to mention Mike's cringeworthy Summer of Love "It'a a Love Thing", but BW has written some cringeworthy stuff too.)




Al's absence occurred to me immediately upon viewing the cover photo in the wee hours of last night when it was posted on Mike's Facebook fan page (I had insomnia).  While I think that things between Mike & Al have definitely improved over the 1998-2010 period, I still don't observe them to be close friends at this point.  I alluded to this in my post earlier in this thread (although not directly).  HeyJude made some great points as well earlier in the thread...Mike, from 1998-2013, has, whether purposely or not, mentioned Al very little in his interviews, and at times seemed more than willing to write minimize his contribution to BB history. He has mentioned him a bit more often in the last 3 years, and has some complimentary things to say about Al's voice, and has mentioned that he has spoken to him, so things seemed to have thawed out a little bit.  But I would stop short of saying that they are good friends.  Even during the C50 tour and the concurrent and subsequent CD releases, Al seemed to take a distant 3rd place in importance when it came to track selection for 50 Big Ones and Live - The 50th Anniversary tour.  Look at Disc 1 of 50 Big Ones and who sings lead on the different songs. Also look at what songs got cut from Live - The 50th Anniversary Tour, and what stayed.  Brian and Mike were prominently featured, while Al was featured about as much as Bruce & Dave, although he sang significantly more leads than both.

That said, I look forward to any upcoming books, shows, and studio/live releases coming from any and all Beach Boys!  I'm grateful to have the Beach Boys that remain, and I welcome any output they give to us!
108  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love book out in September on: March 29, 2016, 02:57:05 PM
I think the Beach Boys photo that was selected for the cover speaks volumes.

That said, I appreciate the contributions of each individual Beach Boy, and enjoy all their shows and I'd buy any of their biographies.
109  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Playlist: Brian In Space on: March 28, 2016, 07:03:31 PM
Cool idea!

I'd also add In My Moondreams
110  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Rarest Type of Beach Boys Song? on: March 26, 2016, 08:36:50 AM
Busy Doin' Nothing, 1968, Brian

This is REALLY buried in the right channel but it's there: https://soundcloud.com/smileyhoneyfriends-1/bdn-overdub-oops

I listened all the way through but couldn't hear it?
111  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Rarest Type of Beach Boys Song? on: March 26, 2016, 12:30:29 AM
I can identify only 9 songs from 1962-1985 that have the following characteristics:

 - One Lead Singer
 - No Harmony vocals by others (double or multi tracking the lead vocal is allowed)
 - No background harmonies, counter melodies, oohhs, ahhs, etc. (not even the slightest additional vocals other than the lead singer are allowed)
 
Oddly, all of the songs I can identify are from the 1960's and only the Wilson brothers get the spotlight.  Please correct me if I have forgotten anything or made a mistake:

Your Summer Dream, 1963, Brian
In the Back of My Mind, 1965, Dennis
Girl Don't Tell Me, 1965, Carl
Don't Talk (Put Your Head on My Shoulder), 1966, Brian
Caroline, No, 1966, Brian
I'd Love Just Once to See You, 1967, Brian
How She Boogalooed It, 1967, Carl
Be Still, 1968, Dennis
Busy Doin' Nothing, 1968, Brian



All Alone
112  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Rarest Type of Beach Boys Song? on: March 26, 2016, 12:29:40 AM
The rarest Beach Boys song is a good SiP song.  Cheesy

Haha. Or... a song with a spoken section. There can't be too many of those. That's excluding studio instructions, informal chat and "talk tracks" (and that awful business at the start of "TM Song")...
  
- Lonely Sea (Brian)
- Finders Keepers (Mike)
- Drive-In (Mike)
- The Little Girl I Once Knew (Mike)
- She's Goin' Bald (Brian and Mike)
- Busy Doin' Nothin' (Brian)
- At My Window (Brian)
- Games Two Can Play (Brian)
- Santa Ana Winds (Alan)*
- The Beaks Of Eagles (Alan and Mike)*
- Summertime Blues (Mike)*

H'mm. More than I thought! Do any others come to mind?

Edit: now including contributions by other posters*...

Child Of Winter
113  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 1993 - Good Vibrations Tour on: March 25, 2016, 09:00:10 AM
So, with the MIC box and the PS50 box, we're getting some bits and pieces from the 1993 Tour. 

What are the chances that we, one day, we a real tangible live release from that tour? 

There's a good chance of that happening in 2043!
114  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds 50 track listing on: March 22, 2016, 10:43:58 PM
The live selections are intriguing! Hopefully those full shows will all be released eventually.

Being a completist when It comes to official releases, I'll be buying this for sure!
115  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary on: March 19, 2016, 10:48:48 AM
I'm sure the article is just looking to the one full-blown PS tour in the US in 2000 and ignoring the subsequent international legs and shorter US excursions (2006/2007 amounted to about 9 shows, and they did PS twice I believe on the 2013 tour). "First time in 17 years!" sounds better. I suppose "first extensive US PS tour in 17 years" would be technically accurate.
...yes, except 2000 was 16 years ago.
116  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary on: March 19, 2016, 01:33:47 AM
From the article:

"The 2016 tour will be the first time Pet Sounds will be played in its entirety on stage in 17 years. When Pet Sounds was released in 1966, "We didn't play it on stage," Wilson says, describing the record as, "an album that started out with 'Wouldn't It Be Nice' and just went from there."

***
Was the Winter 2007 Pet Sounds tour just my imagination then?

And didn't it get played once or twice more recently, I think maybe during the Jeff Beck tour?

Oh yeah! I forgot about that!
117  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson and Friends Collector's Edition, Extra tracks on: March 19, 2016, 12:47:05 AM
Nice!  I missed out on the original release (I guess I'm slipping these days on getting all the current stuff right away).
118  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Pet Sounds 50th Anniversary on: March 19, 2016, 12:39:34 AM
From the article:

"The 2016 tour will be the first time Pet Sounds will be played in its entirety on stage in 17 years. When Pet Sounds was released in 1966, "We didn't play it on stage," Wilson says, describing the record as, "an album that started out with 'Wouldn't It Be Nice' and just went from there."

***
Was the Winter 2007 Pet Sounds tour just my imagination then?
119  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Star Ratings on: March 19, 2016, 12:25:13 AM
Nice charts indeed, and out of ten makes more sense to me.
Thanks, I can provide the template for it if you want.

I'd love to have the template!
120  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Pledge to Not Read Rocky's Thread on: March 17, 2016, 11:29:40 PM
Funnily enough, I never read a single page of it until 2 days ago when a friend mentioned it to me. I checked out the first three pages and the last few. A little too crazy for me. Not going back.
121  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Boys Live IN Concert 1973 on: March 13, 2016, 01:46:11 PM
Very interesting!! Thanks c-man!
122  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike and Bruce Tour 2016 on: March 12, 2016, 01:24:36 AM
I actually like hearing Cool Head Warm Heart, but I do sense the audience getting restless when they play it. I am pretty neutral on Pisces Brothers, but I'm thinking that this shouldn't be a permanent staple. Audiences seem to appreciate it, but its appeal may wear thin if played year after yearwith the same video tribute.
123  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: new article with some interesting tidbits on: March 06, 2016, 01:40:29 PM
Yeah, there is no reason to think he's saying the vox only is new to the new box. "There is a box set they put out several years ago, and they're getting ready to do another one, which is the 50th anniversary of Pet Sounds, um, where it's just a CD of just the vocals. It's a multiple CD set, and it has just the vocals on this one CD." (15:23)

The mention of the new set is more an aside. His comment about the vocals-only disc is referring back to the old box.

Agreed.
124  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: new article with some interesting tidbits on: March 05, 2016, 11:08:16 AM
I'm guessing it was more like Al *possibly* guest-appearing on a recording and/or a show or two. Nothing more. Just my guess.
125  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BB song/songs you wish had a different lead vocalist? on: March 05, 2016, 09:52:10 AM
I wish there were alternate versions of the entire Stars & Stripes album with the Beach Boys singing the lead vocals.
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