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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Top 10 fav. soundtracks
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on: May 07, 2009, 06:50:13 PM
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Since nobody else is jumping in, here ya go off the top of my head...
Once Upon A Time In The West - Ennio Morricone The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly - Ennio Morricone Vertigo - Bernard Herrmann Planet Of The Apes - Jerry Goldsmith Blade Runner - Vangelis Nosferatu The Vampyre - Popul Vuh The Day The Earth Stood Still - Bernard Hermann Cinema Paradiso - Ennio Morricone Suspiria - Goblin North By Northwest - Bernard Herrmann
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles
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on: May 06, 2009, 07:34:45 AM
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I thought that by "Yoko hate," sofonanm was referring to people who hate her as a person, not people who hate her art, or music, or whatever it is. There are plenty of people who just can't stand her as a person, and I don't understand that except to say that it _is_ rooted in sexism and racism. It was jarring in the 60s for people to see a white Englishman with a Japanese woman-- and for her to be participating in everything he did when she "should have been" in the background, well, that was jarring too. And now I don't know if that's what people are thinking when they call her an ugly b**** and all that, but there's something behind it more than not caring for her "art." Yoko fascinates me. I don't like her art either, but she is one tough woman, and she's been through a hell of a lot.
The Beatles were beloved, considered the greatest group on earth. Suddenly Yoko became John's priority, the band took a backseat, and I think a lot of fans resented that. And of course there are all the stories about her bringing a bed into the recording studio, or members of the band having to reach around her to fiddle with their own amplifiers, etc. The perception seemed to be, "who the hell does she think she is?" But of course the person that fans should have been angry with was John. She wouldn't have been anywhere near if John hadn't wanted her there. But he was John Lennon, a beloved Beatle, so people would rather blame her than him. Edited to add: the guitar in "Walking On Thin Ice" has always reminded me of "Just Like The White Wing Dove".
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles
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on: May 05, 2009, 07:08:56 AM
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Any fans of the being that is known as YOKO ONO here? Check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9kgu71d81UIf you don't love her yet, you will after seeing that video. I don't really understand the Yoko hate. Seems to be rooted in some not-so-subtle racism and ignorance. I don't understand the general feeling that she is or was ugly - I think she's beautiful and was quite sexy a few decades ago. If John had chosen a screeching, pretentious white woman over the Beatles, the story would have been the same, imo.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and influence of MSIA on L.A. Light
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on: May 04, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
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Carl apparently wrote "Where I Belong" for this John-Roger guy...
I've spent my whole life drifting Towards an elusive sun I would have wandered forever If your breeze hadn't come And you just could be my anchor You are my northern star That navigates me home
Don't need to search no more exotic islands No that I found you're right where I belong Never been so much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
In my mind we're together Even when I'm alone My heart leaves you never Never will our love grow old My destination forever You are my shining star that navigates me home
Don't need to search no more exotic islands Now that I found you're right where I belong Never been as much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
Don't need to search no more exotic islands Now that I found you're right where I belong Never been as much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
Small snag with your theory - Carl didn't write the lyric for the song. Not my theory, I read it here: http://www.ndh.org/template.php3?ID=311Of course the info from the site could be wrong...
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and influence of MSIA on L.A. Light
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on: May 04, 2009, 09:09:43 AM
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Carl apparently wrote "Where I Belong" for this John-Roger guy...
I've spent my whole life drifting Towards an elusive sun I would have wandered forever If your breeze hadn't come And you just could be my anchor You are my northern star That navigates me home
Don't need to search no more exotic islands No that I found you're right where I belong Never been so much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
In my mind we're together Even when I'm alone My heart leaves you never Never will our love grow old My destination forever You are my shining star that navigates me home
Don't need to search no more exotic islands Now that I found you're right where I belong Never been as much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
Don't need to search no more exotic islands Now that I found you're right where I belong Never been as much at home as I am Loving you is right where I belong
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles
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on: May 01, 2009, 02:56:14 PM
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There's no denying the level of talent in the Beatles.
What occasionally turns me off from them is their seeming lack of sincerity. I often get the feeling when listening to them that their tongues are planted firmly in their cheeks (not always of course, but often). I almost want to shake them by their collars and shout, "C'MON GUYS! BE SERIOUS!"
In contrast, there's B. Wilson. I come away from a Brian Wilson song feeling as if he has shared a part of his soul with me. I feel like I know the guy. With McCartney, it's like he keeps the listener at arms length.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / 1960's Beach Boys Albums / Re: Smiley Smile
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on: May 01, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
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5 big ones from me.
After many years of ignorantly dismissing the BBs as simply a "surf" group, I took a chance one day and purchased Pet Sounds and the Smiley Smile/Wild Honey twofer at a 50% off clearance sale. That day was the major turning point in my musical life. I thought, "Any group that can record Pet Sounds, then turn around and do this...deserves some serious investigation!" I wasn't aware of the whole story with Smile at that point, so I just accepted Smiley Smile at face value. From the start, I thought it was a weird, beautiful, earthy, creepy masterpiece.
Heroes And Villains- I love the rumbling bass organ in the choruses...brings to mind a gothic cathedral, and sets the tone for the creepiness to follow. Love the dry, fragile, harmonized vocal parts. To me, this is a very underrated rendition of H&V.
Vegetables- Rhythm section consisting of a badly played bass guitar (with flubbed notes left in) and a jug! This is not your mother’s Beach Boys. Great sound effects. The last couple of sections/modules are gorgeous.
Fall Breaks And Back To Winter- One of my favorite tracks on the album. Brian Wilson as the phantom of the friggin’ opera. Super weird. Love the croaking vocals (?), the freaked out percussion, the woody woodpecker bits, and that omnipresent organ! Love it more than Mrs. O'Leary's Cow.
She’s Going Bald- Like this much better than He Gives Speeches. That’s some janky old school pitch shifting towards the middle! The boys are trying to be funny, but it's too late...the worm has turned.
Little Pad- I put this on a comp that my wife and I listened to while on honeymoon in Hawaii, alongside Martin Denny, etc. The hummed vocals and slide guitar are beautiful. It’s like there are ghosts in this recording.
Good Vibrations- Greatness, of course.
With Me Tonight- My hands down favorite of the album. There’s something so beautiful about this song that it gives me goose bumps. After listening to the session tapes from Unsurpassed Masters, I realized that the “GOOD” bit was actually shifted over a bit so that it landed on the beat. An edit, not an accident. Fantastic. And again, the organ blows my mind.
Wind Chimes- Like bachelor pad music for Dr. Phibes to relax to. Gotta wonder whether Wilson realized how creepy this stuff was getting. The jarring SPLATTT!!! that happens late in the song definitely suggests that there is some heavy psychological drama at play here, that Wilson is deliberately f-ing up his own creations.
Getting Hungry- Maybe others could have written a song like this, but nobody else could have delivered it the way this is delivered. Think about the creative choices going on in this track. Listen to the bit where it all comes to a halt, and then a slowed down voice sings “I’m getting hungry, hungry for…” and then a super high falsetto Brian comes in and finishes the line “MYYYY kind of woman!” No surprise at all to find out that Syd Barrett was a big fan.
Wonderful- Sounds like the song itself has been corrupted, soured. A musical genius self destructing…repellant and thrilling at once. It’s like Wilson is channeling the id of the southern California sunshine pop scene, forecasting the unpleasantness that would come in the following years.
Whistle In- Another track that sounds like it was recorded deep in the dead of night. After the fade the listener is left to wonder what the hell just happened.
Listened to it as I was typing this. What a friggin amazing album.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Girls
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on: April 27, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
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Which Beach BOY would look sexiest as a Beach GIRL?
I was looking at a picture of Carl from 1969 and I must say he'd make a great female. Sort of like those thick-but-not-fat girls who are really sexy.
Definitely Mike. He could easily pull the Sinead O'Connor look.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Howdy Ya'll
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on: April 21, 2009, 09:12:24 AM
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...from Tejas!
I've been following the discussion here for months, thought I'd jump in. Great board!
Steve (Menace Wilson)
Are you long and tall by any chance? Tall, yes. I'm not sure how to answer the first part of your question.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's production tricks: things over looked in BWPS and many Smile playlists
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on: April 03, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
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I love BWPS, but there has always been something about the CD that leaves me less than completely satisfied, and I think I figured out what it is after purchasing and listening to the Good Vibrations CD single. On the single, there's an instrumental version of "In Blue Hawaii". Exactly the same mix as on BWPS so far as I can tell, except minus the vocals. It sounds fantastic to me. IMO, the major difference between the new Smile and the old is the quality of the vocals, particularly some of the harmonies. As great as Wilson's new band is, they just didn't deliver the vocal alchemy that the BBs did on those cuts. In fact I think the vocals sound much better on TLOS. There are bits on BWPS when it sounds to me as if the guy with the least great voice was standing closest to the mic....
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