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426  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Top 10 fav. soundtracks on: May 07, 2009, 06:50:13 PM
Since nobody else is jumping in, here ya go off the top of my head...

Once Upon A Time In The West - Ennio Morricone
The Good, The Bad, And The Ugly - Ennio Morricone
Vertigo - Bernard Herrmann
Planet Of The Apes - Jerry Goldsmith
Blade Runner - Vangelis
Nosferatu The Vampyre - Popul Vuh
The Day The Earth Stood Still - Bernard Hermann
Cinema Paradiso - Ennio Morricone
Suspiria - Goblin
North By Northwest - Bernard Herrmann


427  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles on: May 06, 2009, 07:34:45 AM
I thought that by "Yoko hate," sofonanm was referring to people who hate her as a person, not people who hate her art, or music, or whatever it is. There are plenty of people who just can't stand her as a person, and I don't understand that except to say that it _is_ rooted in sexism and racism. It was jarring in the 60s for people to see a white Englishman with a Japanese woman-- and for her to be participating in everything he did when she "should have been" in the background, well, that was jarring too. And now I don't know if that's what people are thinking when they call her an ugly b**** and all that, but there's something behind it more than not caring for her "art." Yoko fascinates me. I don't like her art either, but she is one tough woman, and she's been through a hell of a lot.

The Beatles were beloved, considered the greatest group on earth.  Suddenly Yoko became John's priority, the band took a backseat, and I think a lot of fans resented that.  And of course there are all the stories about her bringing a bed into the recording studio, or members of the band having to reach around her to fiddle with their own amplifiers, etc.  The perception seemed to be, "who the hell does she think she is?" 

But of course the person that fans should have been angry with was John.  She wouldn't have been anywhere near if John hadn't wanted her there.  But he was John Lennon, a beloved Beatle, so people would rather blame her than him.       

Edited to add: the guitar in "Walking On Thin Ice" has always reminded me of "Just Like The White Wing Dove".  Razz


 
428  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Top 10 songs you wish were completed on: May 05, 2009, 11:19:33 AM
I've always thought that the Lonely Days fragment was stunning.  Other bands would kill for leftovers like that...   
429  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles on: May 05, 2009, 07:08:56 AM
Any fans of the being that is known as YOKO ONO here?

Check this out - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h9kgu71d81U

If you don't love her yet, you will after seeing that video.

I don't really understand the Yoko hate. Seems to be rooted in some not-so-subtle racism and ignorance. I don't understand the general feeling that she is or was ugly - I think she's beautiful and was quite sexy a few decades ago.



If John had chosen a screeching, pretentious white woman over the Beatles, the story would have been the same, imo.
430  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and influence of MSIA on L.A. Light on: May 04, 2009, 01:58:46 PM
Carl apparently wrote "Where I Belong" for this John-Roger guy...

I've spent my whole life drifting
Towards an elusive sun
I would have wandered forever
If your breeze hadn't come
And you just could be my anchor
You are my northern star
That navigates me home

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
No that I found you're right where I belong
Never been so much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong

In my mind we're together
Even when I'm alone
My heart leaves you never
Never will our love grow old
My destination forever
You are my shining star that navigates me home

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
Now that I found you're right where I belong
Never been as much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
Now that I found you're right where I belong
Never been as much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong
 

Small snag with your theory - Carl didn't write the lyric for the song.

Not my theory, I read it here: http://www.ndh.org/template.php3?ID=311
Of course the info from the site could be wrong...
431  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Carl and influence of MSIA on L.A. Light on: May 04, 2009, 09:09:43 AM
Carl apparently wrote "Where I Belong" for this John-Roger guy...

I've spent my whole life drifting
Towards an elusive sun
I would have wandered forever
If your breeze hadn't come
And you just could be my anchor
You are my northern star
That navigates me home

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
No that I found you're right where I belong
Never been so much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong

In my mind we're together
Even when I'm alone
My heart leaves you never
Never will our love grow old
My destination forever
You are my shining star that navigates me home

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
Now that I found you're right where I belong
Never been as much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong

Don't need to search no more exotic islands
Now that I found you're right where I belong
Never been as much at home as I am
Loving you is right where I belong
 
432  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to? on: May 02, 2009, 09:33:04 AM
Lately:

Smiley Smile and Wild Honey
The Look Of Love (Burt Bacharach 3 disc set)
The Millennium
Parachute by The Pretty Things
433  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: I hate the Beatles on: May 01, 2009, 02:56:14 PM
There's no denying the level of talent in the Beatles. 

What occasionally turns me off from them is their seeming lack of sincerity.  I often get the feeling when listening to them that their tongues are planted firmly in their cheeks (not always of course, but often).  I almost want to shake them by their collars and shout, "C'MON GUYS!  BE SERIOUS!"     

In contrast, there's B. Wilson.  I come away from a Brian Wilson song feeling as if he has shared a part of his soul with me.  I feel like I know the guy.  With McCartney, it's like he keeps the listener at arms length. 

434  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1960's Beach Boys Albums / Re: Smiley Smile on: May 01, 2009, 01:30:41 PM
5 big ones from me.

After many years of ignorantly dismissing the BBs as simply a "surf" group, I took a chance one day and purchased Pet Sounds and the Smiley Smile/Wild Honey twofer at a 50% off clearance sale.  That day was the major turning point in my musical life.  I thought, "Any group that can record Pet Sounds, then turn around and do this...deserves some serious investigation!"  I wasn't aware of the whole story with Smile at that point, so I just accepted Smiley Smile at face value.  From the start, I thought it was a weird, beautiful, earthy, creepy masterpiece. 

Heroes And Villains- I love the rumbling bass organ in the choruses...brings to mind a gothic cathedral, and sets the tone for the creepiness to follow.  Love the dry, fragile, harmonized vocal parts.  To me, this is a very underrated rendition of H&V.

Vegetables- Rhythm section consisting of a badly played bass guitar (with flubbed notes left in) and a jug!  This is not your mother’s Beach Boys.  Great sound effects.  The last couple of sections/modules are gorgeous. 

Fall Breaks And Back To Winter- One of my favorite tracks on the album.  Brian Wilson as the phantom of the friggin’ opera.  Super weird.  Love the croaking vocals (?), the freaked out percussion, the woody woodpecker bits, and that omnipresent organ!  Love it more than Mrs. O'Leary's Cow.   

She’s Going Bald- Like this much better than He Gives Speeches.  That’s some janky old school pitch shifting towards the middle!  The boys are trying to be funny, but it's too late...the worm has turned.   

Little Pad- I put this on a comp that my wife and I listened to while on honeymoon in Hawaii, alongside Martin Denny, etc.  The hummed vocals and slide guitar are beautiful.  It’s like there are ghosts in this recording.

Good Vibrations- Greatness, of course.

With Me Tonight- My hands down favorite of the album.  There’s something so beautiful about this song that it gives me goose bumps.  After listening to the session tapes from Unsurpassed Masters, I realized that the “GOOD” bit was actually shifted over a bit so that it landed on the beat.  An edit, not an accident.  Fantastic.  And again, the organ blows my mind.       

Wind Chimes- Like bachelor pad music for Dr. Phibes to relax to.  Gotta wonder whether Wilson realized how creepy this stuff was getting.  The jarring SPLATTT!!! that happens late in the song definitely suggests that there is some heavy psychological drama at play here, that Wilson is deliberately f-ing up his own creations.   

Getting Hungry- Maybe others could have written a song like this, but nobody else could have delivered it the way this is delivered.  Think about the creative choices going on in this track.  Listen to the bit where it all comes to a halt, and then a slowed down voice sings “I’m getting hungry, hungry for…” and then a super high falsetto Brian comes in and finishes the line “MYYYY kind of woman!”  No surprise at all to find out that Syd Barrett was a big fan.   

Wonderful- Sounds like the song itself has been corrupted, soured.  A musical genius self destructing…repellant and thrilling at once.  It’s like Wilson is channeling the id of the southern California sunshine pop scene, forecasting the unpleasantness that would come in the following years. 

Whistle In- Another track that sounds like it was recorded deep in the dead of night.  After the fade the listener is left to wonder what the hell just happened.

Listened to it as I was typing this.  What a friggin amazing album.
435  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: interview on: April 30, 2009, 02:48:51 PM
Love that he gives shout outs to "How Deep Is Your Love" and "What A Fool Believes", among others.  Makes perfect sense that he would dig those tunes.
436  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All TLOS bonus tracks ... on: April 30, 2009, 02:43:01 PM
Did I read somewhere that Danny Hutton did the backing vox on Message Man?  They sound fantastic, great compliment to Brian's voice.
437  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Girls on: April 27, 2009, 12:41:12 PM
What.

(bald joke)
438  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: All TLOS bonus tracks ... on: April 27, 2009, 12:40:07 PM
LOVE THESE.

Message Man seems to pick up on a kernel of an idea from "Market Place", but is a MUCH more interesting song.

More proof that Brian still has it, even if he doesn't particularly want to use it that often.  Smiley
439  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Beach Girls on: April 27, 2009, 12:12:43 PM
Which Beach BOY would look sexiest as a Beach GIRL?

I was looking at a picture of Carl from 1969 and I must say he'd make a great female. Sort of like those thick-but-not-fat girls who are really sexy.

Definitely Mike.  He could easily pull the Sinead O'Connor look. 
440  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Re: Howdy Ya'll on: April 21, 2009, 09:12:24 AM
...from Tejas!

I've been following the discussion here for months, thought I'd jump in.  Great board!

Steve (Menace Wilson) 



Are you long and tall by any chance?

Tall, yes.  I'm not sure how to answer the first part of your question.  LOL 
441  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Get Down never heard with Murray Saul and Dennis Wilson on: April 20, 2009, 01:38:21 PM
Apparently these are examples of "get downs"?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Td9cy-DZkSc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtkPIG3xP7Q

442  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: What the F*** Are You talking About????? on: April 14, 2009, 02:04:37 PM

 LOL LOL LOL
443  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Beach Boys wedding songs on: April 09, 2009, 08:53:20 AM
When my wife and I got married, we used the Hawthorne, CA version of "Devoted To You" during the candle lighting ceremony.  It was perfect, even had the pastor on the verge of tears.  Grin 
444  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Details on \ on: April 07, 2009, 08:48:09 AM
I'm exactly the sort of sucker these compilations are geared for.  Will shell out the cash for yet another BB comp because of the stereo mixes.
445  Smiley Smile Stuff / The Beach Boys Media / Re: Great BB Photos on: April 04, 2009, 09:48:13 PM
Wow, lots of great pics I'd never seen before!  Thanks for the tip!
446  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's production tricks: things over looked in BWPS and many Smile playlists on: April 03, 2009, 03:03:28 PM
In fact I think the vocals sound much better on TLOS.  There are bits on BWPS when it sounds to me as if the guy with the least great voice was standing closest to the mic....   Razz

I agree, except for "That sucky old / sucky old / sucky old sun"...  Evil

LOL 
447  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's production tricks: things over looked in BWPS and many Smile playlists on: April 03, 2009, 02:20:26 PM
I love BWPS, but there has always been something about the CD that leaves me less than completely satisfied, and I think I figured out what it is after purchasing and listening to the Good Vibrations CD single.

On the single, there's an instrumental version of "In Blue Hawaii".  Exactly the same mix as on BWPS so far as I can tell, except minus the vocals. 

It sounds fantastic to me.

IMO, the major difference between the new Smile and the old is the quality of the vocals, particularly some of the harmonies.  As great as Wilson's new band is, they just didn't deliver the vocal alchemy that the BBs did on those cuts.  In fact I think the vocals sound much better on TLOS.  There are bits on BWPS when it sounds to me as if the guy with the least great voice was standing closest to the mic....   Razz
448  Smiley Smile Stuff / Welcome to the Smiley Smile board / Howdy Ya'll on: April 03, 2009, 02:05:49 PM
...from Tejas!

I've been following the discussion here for months, thought I'd jump in.  Great board!

Steve (Menace Wilson) 

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