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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: March 11, 2024, 05:17:39 PM
When I suggested that Dae Lims "fix" some Brian vocals (including on Wilson/Paley material), I meant that I'd love to hear better Brian vocals (not necessarily younger Brian vocals) on those tunes/segments.  For example, in Elbow '63, I'd like to hear on key mid-to-late 90's Brian vocals for the "we made music" section.  I don't need to hear mid-60s Brian vocals. 
2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How is Brian? on: January 09, 2024, 06:59:03 PM
While Brian is still with us, I'd like to see Andy Paley and Darian produce a "Wilson/Paley Tribute" concert in LA (and NY?).  All Wilson/Paley tunes would be featured, with other Wilson, Paley and BB songs filling out the show.  Obviously, it would be a niche event.  But, I believe many Board members would endeavor to attend. 
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The most stunning Beach Boys AI I've heard yet on: January 09, 2024, 02:01:45 PM
The Dae Lims AI stuff is incredible!  It would be great if he could use AI to "fix" the vocals in various BW recordings:

- Wilson/Paley tracks like Elbow '63 ("we made music ..."), Proud Mary, Slightly American Music + Going Home

- Intro to the Hallmark version of The Spirit of Rock N Roll

- How Could We Still Be Dancing ("dance the night away, dance the night away" and "hey everybody")

- Fairy Tale



4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How is Brian? on: January 03, 2024, 07:52:34 PM
Prior to the new recordings for the LPR soundtrack, was Brian's most recent recording "Run James Run" for the "Playback" release?
5  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson & Joe Thomas on: December 25, 2023, 04:08:11 PM
I've never minded the sound of a Joe Thomas/BW production, including "Everything I Need'.  However, I think Joe's influence on songs selected for an album is the real problem.  I don't think I'd dislike the sound of a Thomas production of "Chain Reaction of Love".  But, I doubt Joe would ever select that song for a BW album.  Of course, I understand that Brian (presumably) could have overruled Joe (and/or others) to include more Paley/BW tunes on Imagination or NPP.  And, Joe wasn't around to overrule when it came to songs for GIOMH (the album). 
6  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: How is Brian? on: December 21, 2023, 01:14:31 PM
I agree that recent photos show Brian looking better than he has in awhile.  However, I fear that he continues to have trouble walking - is he confined to a wheel chair?  As they say, "father time in undefeated"; while Brian survived mental illness, drug use, Landy, etc., he's probably winding down in all respects as the years pile on. 
7  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Wilson/Paley on: December 12, 2023, 09:48:44 PM
I recently discovered Elbow '63 (although the song references 1964?).  Who handles the low vocals on this one - Andy Paley? 

Along with Chain Reaction of Love, Elbow is one of the better not-yet-officially released Wilson/Paley tracks.   
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's official lead vocal on \ on: November 28, 2023, 10:22:15 PM
Thanks for the info.  I now understand that Brian cut a new version of GIOMH (the song) for the album of the same name.  So, there was not a lead vocal re-do over a common backing track, as there was for You're Still a Mystery.   Previously, I was comparing the GIOMH album track to the original (booted/BW web site) version of the song from the Paley sessions.      
9  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's official lead vocal on \ on: November 27, 2023, 12:53:53 AM
Wow - I wouldn't have guessed Matt and Brian for "it's happening again ..." .

Wasn't there a "lead vocal re-do" by Brian for Gettin' In Over My Head (the song), as well as You're Still a Mystery? 
10  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian's official lead vocal on \ on: November 26, 2023, 07:37:49 PM
Who is singing the "it's happening again ..." section of You're Still a Mystery?  It doesn't sound like any of the Beach Boys to me.

Could it be Andy Paley's voice?
11  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Currently obsessed with the Sweet Insanity sessions.. on: October 16, 2023, 07:51:32 AM
So, the sequence was (apparently):

- original version of Water Builds Up (WBU) (pre-1987)

- parts of WBU morph into Let's Go to Heaven ... (1987)

- WBU is brought back (with modifications) for the SI sessions (1990)

I should also note that a couple of other SI era tunes were released in revised form on Gettin' In Over My Head:

- "Save the Day" became "Fairy Tale"

- "Let's Stick Together" became "The Waltz"

I rather enjoy "Fairy Tale" and "The Waltz", which may place me in the minority of BW fans(?).

In my opinion, another unreleased BW song ("Turning Point') would have been a candidate for "sharpening" (and release) somewhere along the way.  Did that song originate during the Paley Sessions (post - SI)?

I welcome any and all fact checks by the Board readers.  

12  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Currently obsessed with the Sweet Insanity sessions.. on: October 13, 2023, 06:55:50 PM
As best I can tell, of the 13 songs often associated with the ill-fated Sweet Insanity album:

- 1 (Country Feeling) was later released "as is".

- 4 (Don't Let Her Know ..., The Spirit of Rock N Roll, Rainbow Eyes and Make a Wish) were later released as completely new recordings (with tweaks - mostly revised lyrics)

- 1 (Water Builds Up) was later significantly overhauled and released as Let's Go To Heaven in My Car.

- 7 (Concert Tonight, Someone to Love, Do You Have Any Regrets, Brian, Hotter, Love Ya and Smart Girls) were never released in any recognizable fashion (to the best of my knowledge).

Of the 7 "missing" songs, I believe that "cleaned up" versions of Someone to Love, Do You have Any Regrets and Love Ya would have been welcome additions to the long list of officially released BW solo efforts.  It's much more difficult to imagine reasonable versions of Brian, Hotter and Smart Girls ever being released.  
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian AI Project. on: August 30, 2023, 08:31:36 AM
I like the idea of using AI to fix or complete BB/BW songs.  With respect to fixing, the intro to The Spirit of Rock and Roll (by BW) on the Hallmark album is a top candidate for repair.  Other candidates include several songs from BW's Getting In Over My Head and the Danny Hutton duet (Hold Back Time) on the VDP/BW Orange Crate Art album. 
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Currently obsessed with the Sweet Insanity sessions.. on: June 15, 2023, 06:42:12 PM
Other than Landy and Morgan, who else worked with Brian on Sweet Insanity?  Was there a Paley-like musical guru who helped Brian put together the ill-fated album?  Or did Brian simply work with musicians to complete the songs? 
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian AI Project. on: April 10, 2023, 06:49:05 PM
In addition to the Old Man "Shunshine" fix, I propose 2 more:

- Correct the offkey introduction to Spirit of Rock N Roll (from the Hallmark album)

- Add some other BB voices to Brian's I've Lost That Lovin' Feeling
16  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian’s vocal change Redux on: July 26, 2022, 07:01:05 AM
Over the years, Brian has presented us with more voices and physical appearances than one would have thought possible!
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: PET SQUARES #11: Brian's Breakdown on: July 26, 2022, 06:59:07 AM
This was arguably the best (i.e. most informative) analysis of a Brian/Beach Boys topic I've ever seen.  Great job!
18  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson: Long Promised Road (Original Motion Picture Soundtrack) on: December 01, 2021, 06:51:14 PM
The Long Promised Road soundtrack could be called "GIOMH, version 2.0", as we're treated to more "real Brian" (vs. Joe Thomas-filtered Brian).  I like GIOMH more than most (in spite of some sloppy voacals), but I am not very enthusiastic about Brian's aged vocals on the more recently recorded tracks on the LPR soundtrack. 
19  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: TWGMTR - 1 year on... on: September 24, 2021, 08:24:28 AM
I am generally much more of a "Brian guy" than "Mike guy".  However, I think it was a CRIME that Mike's voice is not all over TWGMTR, the song.  Way too much Jeff Foskett on the song (and the album).   
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Demos posted to Brian Wilson's website on: September 24, 2021, 07:51:56 AM
Regarding "You're Still a Mystery", who sings the "it's happening again, I thought you were my friend" sections? 
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: April 02, 2021, 11:46:27 AM
Very interesting thread re:  TCBTN.  But, was the influence of this 1965 recording on Brian's vocals delayed for 20 ish years?   
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Spirit of Rock N Roll - Hallmark (Songs from Here and Back) version on: February 08, 2021, 09:04:08 AM
To me, the singing/harmonizing ("wall of Brians") in the intro is "off key" or "off pitch".  It just doesn't sound good.  How did it slip through QA/QC steps for the album?   
23  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Spirit of Rock N Roll - Hallmark (Songs from Here and Back) version on: February 08, 2021, 06:29:01 AM
To my ears, the intro to the Spirit of Rock N Roll on the Hallmark album sounds "off key".  It's surprises me that this recording was accepted for the album.

The remainder of the song sounds good, but the intro makes it a difficult listen.   

What do others hear/think?     
24  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Brian Wilson 2020 Live Thread on: January 27, 2020, 03:53:14 PM
Brian and co. apparently played at the Mohegan Sun Arena in Uncasville, CT last Thursday night (1/23).  However, I live 45 minutes from that venue and had no idea that the concert took place.  Any chance that it was a private concert of some sort?
25  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: New album info (as it rolls out...) on: June 09, 2012, 02:54:20 PM
Given that Brian "saved" some 90's songs for the Beach Boys to sing on a new album, I am surprised that "Desert Drive" and "South American" were not among those saved.   I would love to hear both songs with full BB vocals.   
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