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1  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BWPS , the matured SMiLE on: September 25, 2009, 12:21:34 AM
For goodness sake.

I was only palyfully popping the pompous bubble that is this thread, which is veering from a discussion on whether or not BWPS sounds as good as Smile '66 and what happens when you take acid. Who said I was replying to your post specifically anyway?

There is no need to torment yourselves trying to figure out what the point of my post was as it obviously doesn't have one.  Judging by the increasing amount of people on here arguing whith each other while talking at completely crossed purposes. This is why twitter rules.

.....What was I saying again? It doesn't matter.

2  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BWPS , the matured SMiLE on: September 24, 2009, 08:35:07 AM
There is absolutely nothing spiritual about taking LSD or any perception altering substance for that matter. It is just your wonderful brain getting a free pass to indulge itself and all the blessed litter neuro-transmitters that normally sit around all day twiddling their thumbs waiting for you to go to sleep...and dream.

The human brain is more powerful than all the philosophies, theories and ideas in the world rolled into one. Take moving pictures for example. Show the human brain at least 15 sequential still images and voila! Hourney to the Moon, The Birth of A Nation,  Citizen Kane, 2001: A Space Odyssey, Weekend At Bernies,  whatever you like. It's your brain!! The pictures are NOT moving. Your brain is moving them. And that's without drugs. Just looking at stuff.

The same things that were being said by people about acid in the sixties were said by people about MDMA in the eighties. They even called it the second summer of love for chrissakes. Now most of us are quite happy that we danced and smoked and drank and shagged but didn't go irretrievably crazy. If you like to think getting stoned is anything more than that then you ego has been far from death, Jim. In fact, only an ego would place more importance on a chemical reaction than it's due. To quote Bill Hicks " It's no more a miracle than eating some food and then later a turd falling out of your ass"

Anyway.. what was I saying?
3  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BW and the Beatles' Revolver on: September 23, 2009, 06:01:40 AM
I'm sure there is an interview with Brian where he singles out Norwegian Wood for it's artistic and commercial merits. I believe he held NW as an example of the level at which he and the BB's should be operating. Anyone else remember this? Might have been on that Brian Live on tour DVD.

I don't remember the particular example you're referring to, but in one of the contemporary articles in LLVS, Brian mentions Norwegian Wood while pointing out that the Beatles are so good because they can make their songs work with very basic and simple arrangements.  He mentions that if it were his song, he would have orchestrated it, put in background voices, etc., but the fact that they could do it with just an acoustic guitar, sitar and tambourine is what makes them so good.

Cool. Yeah. Thought I'd heard NW brought up somehow.

Thanks
4  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: BW and the Beatles' Revolver on: September 22, 2009, 04:43:51 AM
I'm sure there is an interview with Brian where he singles out Norwegian Wood for it's artistic and commercial merits. I believe he held NW as an example of the level at which he and the BB's should be operating. Anyone else remember this? Might have been on that Brian Live on tour DVD.
5  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Where are you from? on: March 23, 2009, 05:58:05 AM
I spent a couple weeks in Glasgow and loved it. I'd offer to trade spots with you, but I love Minneapolis, too.

My orig post is a bit misleading. Cumbernauld was actually voted the most dismal town in Scotland. (see profile pic)

I LOVE GLASGOW!!!

I would recommend to anyone to visit. Beer
6  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Drug influence w/ Listening to the BB on: March 20, 2009, 03:08:55 AM
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With the exception of Smiley Smile (Little Pad and Wind Chimes especially)  though I have never thought that any BBs music sounded like it was produced with the medicated listener in mind.

Yeah, I was just listening to "Little Pad" again high and, it's crazy, the humming part almost sounds like a string section. That song is just ridiculous. If you could actually hear the instruments (they sound like they were wrapped in a thick layer of gauze) during the humming part it would be a thing of untold beauty. That, and the arrangement for the "sure would like a  little pad..." part always struck me as a little lazy. I always liked the sound of Smiley Smile, kind of more than Smile in some ways, but Brian needed to put a little more work into it. Some of the arrangements could've been a little better with some effort, and as we all know it could have been mixed a lot better.

You can thank Brian's purchase of $2K of hashish for that.  Azn
7  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Drug influence w/ Listening to the BB on: March 19, 2009, 06:09:51 AM
Generally I listen to music while stoned. (If I can help it). It genuinely does enhance the experience having those extra cannabinoid neurotransmitters firing.  Not enhanced sound just your appreciation of it. With the exception of Smiley Smile (Little Pad and Wind Chimes especially)  though I have never thought that any BBs music sounded like it was produced with the medicated listener in mind.

Listen to Pet Sounds while high I tend to skip Wouldn't it Be Nice. (That snare hit at the end of the intro can disccombobulate the unprepared listener). Lets Go Away For A While is an absolute dream.

MDMA is unpredictable but I have had some pleasant nights listening to Please Let Me Wonder on repeat. Honestly

Surely being from Cumbernauld, its more like a bottle of buckfast, 20 regal and a copy of 20 Golden Greats

No.

I was more of a Electric White kind of fellow. And I don't smoke cigarettes. It's a disgusting habit.  LOL
8  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1970's Beach Boys Albums / Re: Holland on: March 19, 2009, 03:24:31 AM
I would really love to hear an instrumental + backing vocals version of "beaks of eagles". The background vocals are especially intriguing.
So would I. The poetry doesn't ruin it for me ... but it doesn't help.

Yeah. I like the poetry. It's just Al's delivery that kind of puts me off listening to it all that often. Sounds like it was done in one take.
9  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Michael Jackson may be dying on: March 18, 2009, 06:27:35 AM
Yes.  HE's DYING TO MAKE A DECENT RECORD THIS CENTURY.

 Cheesy Cheesy
10  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Drug influence w/ Listening to the BB on: March 18, 2009, 06:26:06 AM
Generally I listen to music while stoned. (If I can help it). It genuinely does enhance the experience having those extra cannabinoid neurotransmitters firing.  Not enhanced sound just your appreciation of it. With the exception of Smiley Smile (Little Pad and Wind Chimes especially)  though I have never thought that any BBs music sounded like it was produced with the medicated listener in mind.

Listen to Pet Sounds while high I tend to skip Wouldn't it Be Nice. (That snare hit at the end of the intro can disccombobulate the unperpared listener). Lets Go Away For A While is an absolute dream.

MDMA is unpredictable but I have had some pleasant nights listening to Please Let Me Wonder on repeat. Honestly
11  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / The Sandbox / Re: Where are you from? on: March 18, 2009, 06:14:43 AM
Born in "the rottenrow" Glasgow, Scotland, Dec '77.   That's Scotland. Part of the UK along with England.

Brought up in Cumbernauld where they made the movie Gregory's Girl. Have lived in Glasgow for past ten years. Officialy the most dismal town in Scotland.

See my profile pic if you want to know what Cumbernauld Town Centre (that's the shopping mall, stateside smiley smilers) looks like.

12  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Songs You Love To Hate on: March 18, 2009, 05:55:09 AM
That's MISTER Edge to you.!   Wink 2
13  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1970's Beach Boys Albums / Re: Holland on: March 18, 2009, 05:50:16 AM
I would really love to hear an instrumental + backing vocals version of "beaks of eagles". The background vocals are especially intriguing.
14  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: The Little Girl I Once Knew on: March 02, 2009, 04:52:44 AM
Doesn't sound the same to me...

Speaking of Little Girl, am I the only who likes the Hawthorne version better? I like the a capella section near the end and Mike's delivery of "Look out babe" sounds coolier.

I think the organ and sax bit break before the "lah-doo-day" does sound a lot like the sax and accordian bit before the middle eight in Wouldn't It Be Nice.
15  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1960's Beach Boys Albums / Re: 20/20 on: February 20, 2009, 05:20:40 AM
Already posted same query on "what are you listening to " thread but covering all bases for a response.

Anyone heard The Mark Wirtx Orchestra and Chorus cover of "I Can Hear Music"?

I think it's great. You can find it on the free MOJO In MY Room CD of records influenced by the genius of Brian Wilson.

(yes I know Brian had hee-haw to do with ICHM)

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000PWH902/sr=1-1/qid=1235135980/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&qid=1235135980&sr=1-1&seller=
16  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: Horrible Songs By Great Artists on: February 20, 2009, 05:11:24 AM
Is it just me or do you get to a certain age and begin to hear songs that you used wish that your favourtie artists had never recorded and in fact try to pretend that they hadn't, and think..."Hey....Not bad".

Examples:

Mull of Kintyre
Xanadu by ELO (in fact that doesn't really count as I never used to like ELO at all until a couple of years ago. this was just the last of their hits to beat me into submission)

uh that's all I can think of right now.
17  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: H&V cantina: Box set or SS/WH two-fer? on: February 19, 2009, 02:21:46 AM
Does anyone else  think the Hawthorne stereo version blows away the mono single version?  Brian buried the backing track on the single and overemphasized the organ.  I don't think you could call the single version mix "rushed" - he did multiple mixes over five months - but single really suffers from the mix.

I agree with BW on this when he said that H&V (I preseume he meant the Cantina version) made him sound constipated. The Smiley version sounds odly compressed like they are all out of breath or something. I assumed this was due to a lot of smoking going on at the home studio sessions but the stereo version on Hawthorne is presumably from the same sessions and it sounds great. The vocals really pop out from the track without seeming pushed.
18  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to? on: February 18, 2009, 02:28:25 AM
Fleet Foxes of course.

Also been dipping into The Mark Wirtz Orchestra & Chorus and some Bruce Haack

On the subject of the Mark Wirtz Orchestra.  Has anyone heard his version of "I Can Hear Music".  The backing like a cross between the BB's version and a sort of Wall of Sound/early Velvet Underground kinda feel with a Dusty Springfield soundalike on vocals. It's excellent.
19  Non Smiley Smile Stuff / General Music Discussion / Re: What are you listening to? on: February 17, 2009, 04:24:01 AM
Fleet Foxes of course.

Also been dipping into The Mark Wirtz Orchestra & Chorus and some Bruce Haack
20  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: From 'I Can See Right Through You' to 'Go Away Boy' on: February 13, 2009, 04:17:27 AM
Hi Matt,

I see your point.

I was in fact moved to post here mainly to praise Dave Scott for his cover version but as usual once I start effusing I do tend to get a bit carried away. Nevertheless, I do stand by everything I said about the song itself and it's author cos' after all,  Brian Wilson did write the song it didn't he?  And now the casual and the devoted and completist fans have what can be sonsidered a beautiful, definitive (for now) version of a Brian Wilson song which in my eyes has now been elevated to "classic" status, due in large part to Dave Scott's treatment of it.

Well done Dave and well done Brian for writing tunes like this that people still care enough about 30/40 odd years later to want to go to the trouble of presenting a worthy interpretation of. Even though it could easily have been dismissed as an unfinished/unreleased/unworthy footnote in Brian's "canon". Smiley
21  Smiley Smile Stuff / 1970's Beach Boys Albums / Re: The Beach Boys Love You on: February 12, 2009, 05:19:15 AM
Tried to get a friend who was just getting into the beach boys to get into this album.  He took it away and then later called me to say that he'd snapped the record over his knee and threw it out the window!! Apparently he thought that it was some sort of practical joke and I had put a fake beach boys label on some complete piece of crap record I had found. !!

Then, after taking a closer look at the record realised he had been hasty and went looking for a replacement A couple of weeks later he came round to my flat with an apology and said that he had listened to it "a few dozen times" and thought it was his favourite BBs album.
22  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: From 'I Can See Right Through You' to 'Go Away Boy' on: February 12, 2009, 04:48:44 AM
Hi folks, this is David Scott of The Pearlfishers. Thanks for your nice comments Matt...
My introduction to 'Go Away Boy' was just hearing about the title and thinking, well, that's going to be a great song! I then heard The Honeys version you're talking about and knew the title didn't lie. However, with the greatest of respect, while I loved the song and lead vocal I wasn't so keen on the arrangement. When we got round to thinking about recording 'Caroline Now' (I produced and arranged many of the tracks with my friend Duglas Stewart, including the version of 'Rainbow Eyes" sung by Kle) I thought it would be appropriate to set the song a little closer to it's origin - you're quite right that 'Today' was a sonic reference point. As to the lyrical edits we made, I think I was just trying to keep it nice and short. For me the song more or less says what it needs to in one verse and a bridge anyway. It's funny, all this talk about what BW contributes to this song or that song - my own take on it is that if I could have a pocket Brian Wilson just to feed me with one verse of a song every day of the week I'd be a happy (and much more successful) songwriter! That said, when I interviewed Brian for the sleevenotes of 'Caroline Now'! he didn't remember too much about the song which might suggest it was a quick demo he made and forgot about. One more little thing, I played my track for Alex Chilton when he was over recording his vocal and guitar on 'I Wanna Pick You Up' and he was aghast that I hadn't changed the gender to 'Go Away Girl' - 'You know, ya got a beautiful tune there but the only place that's gonna be a hit is in a gay bar!' Cordial greetings to all on this board from The Pearlies.

Hi David,

It just so happens that I rediscovered this CD in my collection after forgetting about it for years until "Go Away Boy" popped into my head while I was listening to some Roy Orbison and in the mood for a good wallow.

I cannot begin to tell you how much pleasure I get listening to this BW composition that I otherwise might never have heard and to top it all the arrangement and production is absolutely perfect.  I was in love at the time I first heard your version so perhaps the song didn't mean that much to me. Somehow over the years and after having only listened to the Caroline Now! record less than half a dozen times back in '99 this song has worked it's way into my subconscious as an unmitigated classic Brian song like "Till I Die", "Wonderful" "Please Let Me Wonder" . And I believe that you deserve massive credit for preserving an almost lost song and providing fans, like those of us that are posting here regarding this song, with another reminder of Wilson's immeasurable talents to make people feel spiritual through song.
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