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126  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 25, 2016, 08:06:23 PM
Very true.
127  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 21, 2016, 12:25:03 PM
This is why the group needed a manager to deal with the factions and advance the interests of the Beach Boys as a group.  I would bet that Mike Love thinks he's smarter and more knowledgeable than Melinda, and vice versa.  The truth is they've both been milking the oldies all along.  A manager would have pushed another album and a tour to back it up.
128  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: 12 Most Underrated Beach Boys Songs - According to Mike Love on: September 21, 2016, 11:10:58 AM
Oh Darling is kind of a MOR radio type of song, nothing exceptional lyrically and vocally.  A lot of Bruce on the background vocals.
129  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 20, 2016, 12:11:16 PM
"So you doubt and suspect, then this would be your opinion of how things happen behind the scenes. Do you know or are you going on what people have told you? You're putting more stock into what you've heard or been told about one of the wives than you are about the other, yet knowing little firsthand about either case. Is that an accurate read?"

I'm going strictly on what I have read in articles and on this board and others over the years.  If Mike's wife was trying to throw her weight around during the C50 tour and sending faxes or e-mails that said no more tours with the original Beach Boys, that would be a fair point.   

I agree that Brian certainly is healthier and better than days gone by.  With the exception of Lucky Old Sun and Orange Crate Art, his albums have been mediocre.  I don't believe he produced TWGMTR, Joe Thomas probably did.
130  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 19, 2016, 05:38:33 PM
Why do you say that?  I understand that he had pressures to write and produce hit records when he was young, but compared to most, where there is finding a job, trying to make enough money to make the house payment, groceries, tuition, etc., he had it easy.  His problem was mental illness and lacking a doctor to properly diagnose and treat it, and drugs.
131  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 19, 2016, 12:35:58 PM
I will read the book when it becomes available at the library.  Since you've read it, what was/is Jacqueline's role?     
132  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 19, 2016, 11:53:35 AM
That Mike Love's wife is listed in the business filings for his company is most probably for tax purposes, namely to keep them as low as possible and keep control within the family.  That is not the same as someone actively making important decisions about how a band tours, how the show is presented and how they go about recording an album.  I doubt that Mike Love's wife is an active decision maker for his band, other than sharing her opinions with him about the band.  I suspect that on Brian's side of things, his wife is quite active and assertive in the running of his operations.  Various comments that are posted on this board from time to time seem to confirm this.  That Mike Love found it difficult, ultimately unacceptable, that he would have to deal with a band member's wife after years of calling the shots, a woman with no background in the music industry, I can understand his irritation at that.  I completely disagree with the decision Mike Love made to end the BB's in 2012, but recognize that on Brian's side of things they gave him plenty of reasons to go the way he did.      
133  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 16, 2016, 05:12:47 PM
At the Hollywood Bowl reunion show in 2012, I remember how different Brian's voice sounded during Isn't It Time, it sounded prerecorded to me.  Maybe it was auto-tune.
134  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 16, 2016, 09:09:32 AM
To be fair, I would like to read Melinda Wilson's version of what occurred.  Why did she send the fax or e-mail that said no more tour dates, if she was the one that sent it?

Why did Howie Edelson write that when Jeff Foskett left Brian Wilson to go work for Mike Love that was a big FU to Melinda Wilson?  She is obviously an issue for some people.  
135  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 16, 2016, 08:57:50 AM
In either version, Melinda is placing herself as one of the principals running the band.  When spouses get involved in a husband's business, it's often bad news, and the other business partners deeply resent it.
136  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike opens up about Melinda. on: September 16, 2016, 08:51:37 AM
I think Mike Love had every reason to be annoyed, put off, etc. by Melinda injecting herself into the day to workings of the band.  It was not her place to do it.  And yes, that statement, that she's Mike's partner, whether she said it to him or Mike's wife, indicates that Brian is controlled.
137  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 13, 2016, 03:36:45 PM
In the music business, that's not a lot of money.
138  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So according to Mike, the reason he ended the reunion... on: September 13, 2016, 11:08:20 AM
I would love to interview Joe Thomas about recording the album and the tour.  I'm sure he would have some interesting experiences to talk about.
139  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So according to Mike, the reason he ended the reunion... on: September 13, 2016, 07:11:50 AM
I've read of at least one other occasion where Melinda asserted herself in the music business to Brian's detriment, because she thinks she knows something.  She ought to have stayed out of the C50 shows and let Brian's manager bring up anything that needed to be addressed with other members of the group, especially Mike.  There's nothing more irritating than being an established rock star and having someone's wife attempt to interfere with an operation that's been going on for decades. 


 
140  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So according to Mike, the reason he ended the reunion... on: September 12, 2016, 04:35:35 PM
I doubt very much that the agreement allows different members to hit the road and play as the Beach Boys.  I suspect that Mike has an exclusive license, as long as he adheres to its terms.
141  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: So according to Mike, the reason he ended the reunion... on: September 12, 2016, 11:09:18 AM
I'd like to hear from the other side on why the fax was sent to Mike that said "No more tours" or words to that effect.

142  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 08, 2016, 10:37:06 PM
I wonder why Brian, who was in bad shape at the time, wanted to record in Miami.
143  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 08, 2016, 12:51:34 PM
I'm surprised cooler heads did not prevail, which would have caused the BB's to shelve Summer In Paradise.

The inclusion of the song Summer in Paradise on Made in California could only be because Mike Love wanted it.  It certainly did not deserve to be on a collection honoring the history of the Beach Boys. 
144  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 08, 2016, 06:56:16 AM
Okay, so I'll put it this way, Mike kept Brian (and Al) out of the touring Beach Boys in the fall of 2012.

For all the interviews that Mike will sit for in the next few months, would someone please ask him some questions about Summer in Paradise and why it was a complete failure.
145  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: And now, for something inspiring on: September 05, 2016, 10:27:20 AM
I read an excerpt from the link and I want to read more.  Putting aside my view as a fan, I have my doubts about Brian's ability to be an accurate historian.  I've read of too many instances where he's given two versions for the same event.  I wonder how much of this book is truly BW and how much is the writer reconstructing events from articles and interviews. 
146  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: \ on: September 05, 2016, 08:31:52 AM
Helter skelter means America descending into an almost chaotic like state in the late 1960's, Vietnam, Manson, riots, etc.
147  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's Book Discussion Thread (and how it relates to the SS board) on: September 05, 2016, 08:29:51 AM
I listened to the Howard Stern interview in which Mike is almost boastful about the Hall of Fame speech, not at all embarrassed.  Then I read something recently in which  he said that he hadn't meditated that day, in essence offering that up as an excuse for what happened.  So what is Mike's true feeling about the speech and why did he do it at what is normally an occasion to celebrate. 
148  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love will make up anything to sell books on: September 04, 2016, 12:14:49 PM
I think it's impossible to discuss the Beach Boys history and not discuss Brian's drug and mental health problems.  I object to it being discussed ad nauseum, so I'll wait for the book and come to an opinion as to Mr. Love's mention of it..
149  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love will make up anything to sell books on: September 03, 2016, 06:48:13 PM
Who is to say that Mike isn't repeating exactly what Dennis told him about his experience with Manson.
150  Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Someone actually wrote an article about \ on: August 31, 2016, 10:12:01 AM
SIP is a tragedy because they had the fan upsurge from Kokomo and blew it.
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