https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gK60SsCN7UE

Hearing rumours on Twitter that Mike Love is in hospital on a life glug after contacting Covid at this Trump joint.

WOW (samples)

Need to see tracklist. Bring it.

Mad pumped for this.

Really hope it has a clean version of I've Got A Friend amongst the live stuff.

Alan Boyd said in the Q&A session happened earlier this year:

Unfortunately, all we have on I'VE GOT A FRIEND is a very basic backing track, no vocals. And nothing on the song live, sorry to say.

so I'd say there's little chance we would get it, sadly.

http://smileysmile.net/board/index.php?topic=26378.0

Dang it. Legendary song.

Mad pumped for this.

Really hope it has a clean version of I've Got A Friend amongst the live stuff.

I hope to god this stuff keeps going until at least 2023.

New Smile music at the end of CIFOTM. Sounds like full string section version of I'm Great Shape.

Most of the the new stuff is incomplete but not all. Maybe one or two complete new Dennis songs. Walkin is pretty cool now with horns and harmonica. Passing By with lyrics. New take of TTGA sounds very cool and late 60s. So much stuff.

Some of this new stuff is now my favourite Beach Boys stuff. Amazing.

Oh man. Been Way Too Long sessions. Amazing. Think these are new unheard vocals.

Can't believe they never released this stuff. The Dennis songs are amazing. Full Manson phase.

All I Want To Do with Dennis lead vocal! Batters Mike Love's vocal into a bloody pulp.

Oh my gaaaaaaad.

Agreed! Glad you're well now!

I spoke to Tim Heidecker on his podcast a few weeks ago to ask if any other Beach Boys were going to appear on Decker e.g Mike Love.

Listen here:
http://www.feralaudio.com/41-office-hours-live-6-9-17/

From about 1hr 20mins in.

Untitled (Redwood) is Time To Get Alone

Just got my copy! About to listen...

Lovely stuff.

I wonder if this is a kind of deluxe copyright extension release?

Any idea of price?

Thanks for your detailed explanation Steve. Yours is the final word on this subject.

Thanks for that explanation Steve. It's all clear now.

Just to confirm: there is no such thing as a true 4 channel surround version of Sunflower. Is this correct?

COMMENT to king of Anglia:  There is no discrete 4-channel format of Sunflower.  The two-channel commercially released version is a musically compatible two-channel stereo rendition. Within it is an unresolved surround matrix. This is an acoustically derived lattice that can be decoded using an x-y-z configuration that will produce a virtual surround panorama.

King, why don't you read all about it in my book. I keep providing the link and you keep asking questions that are all answered in that book. I wrote the book for people like you, who wish to know more. Take the time and read the book, or at least part one.  

Meanwhile, the presentation of Sunflower at my website is the only true and definitive version of this record. Certainly the current SACD from AP does not represent the album as it was originally produced, unless you are listening to the stereo track, but then this is without resolution of the playback matrix. ~swd

Thanks Steve. I have read all of your descriptions in your study videos and if the book was available to buy, I would do so immediately (perhaps a kindle version?).

I know that there is no such thing as a four channel version of Sunflower. Its just useful to have it confirmed here in this thread by the engineer.

Lukpac, the answer to your question is in the Sunflower study video from about 6.31 minutes in. Simply put, the recorded company wasn't prepared to cut the correct resolved version of the album to vinyl as it would not have complied with RIAA standards. Therefore a consumer version of the matrix device was required.

This could have been corrected with subsequent digital releases as the same RIAA standards don't apply - no extra tech is needed to cut a fully resolved digital version.

However, no digital releases have ever contained the decoded mixes - apart from the version in the study videos.

The SACD is just another in a long line of incorrect versions of Sunflower. AP have attempted to do something with the surround version, but they've missed the point entirely.

Thanks for that explanation Steve. It's all clear now.

Just to confirm: there is no such thing as a true 4 channel surround version of Sunflower. Is this correct?

Lots of confusion here. As far as I know, this release contains:

- A stereo version - taken from the Two-Track Master
- A discrete four channel surround version - taken from a decoded version of the Two-Track Master

No one knows which method AP used to decode the 2-track into 4 channels. It sounds like it's a different method than a standard Dolby surround. Perhaps they got hold of one your matrix devices Steve.

In any case, this is not a new multi-channel mix. It is a decoded version of the Two-Track Master that was supplied to the SACD manufacturers.

Does that count as "releasing anything other than previously released stereo and mono mixes"? All they've done is decode the previously released stereo mix.

I'd sure like to hear this SACD myself.

Can anyone give some examples of what's happening in the surround channels?

This isn't Sunflower. It's essentially a remix of the album into what someone thinks the album should have sounded like. On the insert Stephen W. Desper is credited as Chief Engineer and Mixer, but this is not what he and Carl Wilson submitted to Warner Brothers.

You've got me totally confused here, Bill. You are referring to the new Sunflower Analogue Productions hybrid CD/SACD released yesterday, right? Definitely not a remix at all. And it sounds great to me.

As I understand it, during the mastering process to vinyl Stephen Desper and Carl Wilson made some tweaks to the sound coming off the Sunflower master tape, which can only be found on an original Artisan pressed vinyl copy. Stephen, please correct me if I'm wrong on that. I'm assuming those tweaks were related to EQ and levels. Stephen, were notes kept so that these adjustments could be replicated? I'm assuming these adjustments were made from the two track stereo master, after Stephen had made the major adjustments during mix down from the 16 track master to the two track master. Again, any additional info from Stephen Desper would be appreciated.

COMMENT:  Everything I wish to express about the making of Sunflower is in my book and can be heard and read at the link below. If you are interested in the history of Sunflower, check out my educational website. 

To answer your questions directly -- An LP master tape was generated at the time of the first mastering by Carl and myself. I don't know if it survives or not. Changes to EQ, limiting, and levels were noted, but over the last forty years may have been misplaced. Besides, those mastering tweaks were intended to be made on equipment that has long since been trashed, making such notations irrelevant. I say again, if you wish to hear what Carl and everyone heard at the time of mixdown, go to my website and listen. There you can hear the final mixes resolved through the playback matrix as intended. All other re-masterings do not resolve the master tape and only mimic the commercial release version. If that's good enough for you, then go for it. The current re-issues are part of the history of this album, but in addition you should back up to the mastering supervised by Carl and with the playback matrix resolution applied. The commercial version and the matrix resolution version are two different animals. Read about the history of why this is in my book, Recording The Beach Boys - Part One.  ~swd

http://swdstudyvideos.com 

This is it. The only real version of Sunflower is the DECODED matrix version.

Great! Looking forward to whatever you come up with next!