it doesn't technically say Sept 7 of this year 

other than Brian being a Marlboro man, does anyone have any idea what brand(s) the others smoked?

Jeff seems the type of guy who likes to creep into pictures...

...so true.

Jeff really let himself go between 1988 and touring with Brian...

such are the pitfalls of novelty fame

One story I read re the concert referred to Mike as 'ex Beach Boy'. Oh dear!

  if Mike finds out who it was he'll sue. I swear he will!!!

i'm excited and feel like it's about time. I'm just sitting here imagining all the debates that are surely going to erupt on this board when everybody gets their first listens in though.

i wonder, though... has paul ever told the story?

yeah, i'm sure paul just gets giddy bragging about how he hung out with the mike love

What kind of mics did they use back then?

this is a little off topic, but that reminded me of reading in the liner notes for "Strange Days" that the Doors used a Telefunken U47 for Jim Morrison's vocals and apparently that made him very happy because it was the same mic Sinatra used on his album "Sintra's Swingin Session" and he was a huge Sinatra fan.
/  but yes, to be on topic, i love Sinatra to death. I mostly prefer his Reprise years but man some of those Capital albums are killer as well.

brian's face really says it all

what we're looking at may not be litterally be a "tracklist" it could be nearly anything to outline ideas. We have no way of knowing...just a thought.

wow i had forgotten all about that at the end of Hawthorne! that's really clever! I've always tried to think of some sort of sound effect from one of the dialogue/humour sessions to stick at the end, kind of like pet sounds, but it always seems tacky.

Question - not arguing, just asking - why did you put "Barnyard" between "Vegetables" and "Holidays"? He's carting off the vegetables, not going out to the barnyard. :pb

  haha true. actually i did have vegetables coming after Barnyard but i got too lazy to edit out the trail end of the workshop noises at the beginning of "Vegetables" because i'm using Purple Chick's version (shhhh! don't tell) so yeah it would fit better the other way around if i can just edit it differently so it's smoother.

Do you link "Wonderful" to "Look" to "CIFOTM" to "Surf's Up" a la BWPS? Or utilize the fades?

i link them (seems so easy to do) but one thing i will never give up is the fade out of "Surf's Up" the way it just drifts away is one of the most beautiful moments on smile IMO. and then just as it fades into silence i fade in Our Prayer from about the 34 sec mark. makes for a nice ending.

BTW did you happen to notice that you just posted post # 1967? 

so as a result of the fresh ideas discussed in this thread i, for the first time, have good vibrations at the beginning of my mix. oh what the heck i'll just go ahead and write my recipe down...why not? this is one of the most interesting ones i've done thus far.
1. Our Prayer/Gee
2. Good Vibrations
3. Do You Like Worms? (i did a little magic to combine the original and the BWPS versions so as to have the verses complete but still retain the vintage "Bicycle Rider" and ending sections. I only use 30 seconds at the most of material from BWPS on my mix. the other section being I Wanna Be Around (04) sandwiched inbetween it' 1966 ancestors)
i thnk this is a strong first 3, you get your prayer which is the accepted opener, gee introduces the phrase heroes and villains and is an excellant lead in to Good Vibrations thematically, and Do You Like Worms? introduces our bicyle riding friend, and the HV theme, and places us geographically at Plymouth Rock

then i have my own configuration of a "Barnyard Suite"
4. Cabinessence (which i usually place after the other "Barnyard" songs, but the concept introduced earlier of having the workshop being the building of the "home on the range" sparked me to make the change.
5. I'm In Great Shape/I Wanna Be Around/Workshop
6. Vega Tables
7. Barnyard (i use "All Day" as in intro for some reason) (sometimes i'll include "country air" somewhere around here if i'm feeling adventurous)
8. Holidays ( this is the one that always seem to not have a home in my mix, and i admit it seems out of place where it's at)

I didn't get too creative with the Elements
9. Wind Chimes
10. Fire
11. DaDa

i'm pretty set in my ways about how i structure Heroes and Villains (though i almost always place it at the beginning. I guess i can pretend this is the beginning of side 2, although i know i've already exceeded the side of an LP )

12. here i combine "Tag to part 1"and a HV section I can't remember the 'proper' name for
13. He Gives Speeches
14. Heroes and Villains
15. HV fade (the riding off into the sunset thingy)
16. Old Master Painter/YAMS
17. HV theme piano
i've always been really happy with that being my Heroes And Villains

and lastly, if it ain't broke don't fix it:
18. Wonderful
19. Look
20. CIAFOTM
21. Surf's Up
22. a reprise of "our prayer" editing to begin at around the 34 second mark

I'm so glad there is a place for me to discuss this. You're right Sheriff, it is so much fun to make these mixes. I'll be in garage band with the headphones on mixing stuff and my room mate will ask me what i'm doing and next thing you know i'm discussing smile and getting excited as if it were my own creation. Smile truly is one of a kind in this way and it's up to people like us to keep this alive. Obviously record companies can't be counted on so I guess we are the keepers of the Smile flame. We must continue on or else leave a world for our future generations in which BWPS IS smile by default. anyways keep the ideas coming!

just when i had sworn off driving myself bonkers with making endless smile mixes i read this and now i'm totally drawn back in. now my mind is racing with ideas. looks like it's off to go buy more CD-Rs!

I just can't picture Dennis Wilson at 64 years old.

...me either

What did Dennis have to say about Star Trek???

that he loved watching it. I think the interview was early 70s so i guess he would have been refereing to reruns. The other thing i remember vividly from that interview is that when asked where he'd like to go on a perfect first date his response was "the ovaries"...Oh that Dennis.

not to further kill the thread but i remember reading in some interview (i can't for the life of me remember where) that Dennis wasn't really much of a music buff and didn't really listen to that much music. It's the same interview where he talks about star trek. Someone please correct me if I'm off.

it would behandy to have an astronomy buff on the board that would happen to know the event they were discussing if it is indeed true.

one sad thing about all of it, i think,  is that the average joe who just hears of smile in passing and buys it out of curiosity is going to be buying BWPS and taking as "Smile", which isn't accurate. I'm lucky becaus I first became interested in Smile before BWPS and discovered it through slowly uneathing all those brillant original recordings. I'd hate to think of the people who discover Smile thesedays via book, article, documentary, etc and expect it to be all that it is written to be and then the dissappointment they must feel when they go out and buy BWPS. Not to bring BWPS down too much, it is what it is, and for what it is it's great, BUT it is not the original and as has already been stated i agree that it just simply lacks the magic of the original. Carl's beautiful vocals on Cabin Essence, Brian on Surf's Up, etc. My room mate is a huge music buff and had never even heard of smile and after I built it up to him he was really excited to hear it and I made the mistake of playing him BWPS because i figured it would be the simplest introduction...needless to say he hated it. He said "that's none of the things you said it was" but after i convinced him to give purple chicks smile 2 or 3 listens he was hooked. It's safe to say that he listens to smile era music now as much if not more than i do.

I was expected a thread about the 20/20 album.

Or maybe 1/15 Big Ones.


Student Denominator Time?
Sum-flower?
Maharishi Integer University?

does sound alot like "Don't Worry Baby" and "He Gives Speeches" but for some reason theres one chord change that reminds me of "Winds of Change" not in overall sound of course, but musically speaking

I also had too much time on my hands.

haha don't feel bad i've filled up many sheets of paper with BB related lists

it's all pretty debatable simply because it's never been cut and dry. but there are def three clearly separate groups as it stands today. Brian is so removed from Mike/Bruce and Al that he is certainly in his own group. 

1967-71
1. Bruce (no drugs, prefers a cleaner image)
2. Mike/Carl/Al (a little drugs/TM/move in a more hip and proggressive direction)
3. Dennis (drugs/Manson/move in a more hip and proggressive direction)
4. Brian (drugs/less involved/back and forth between proggressive and oldies)

not sure about al and mike and drugs during this time

1999-present
1. Mike/Bruce (law suits/oldies/TM)
2. Brian/Al (separate from BB/get sued/mix new, proggressive and oldies)

Al is def in a seperate group from bri at this

i'm thinking if i could only save ten years of music from total destruction it would have to be 64-74