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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Surfers Rule
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on: August 20, 2009, 06:30:58 AM
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I am a fan of this song and I love the way Denny sings it. But what was the purpose of calling out the Four Seasons at the end? I can imagine there were some comparisons of Brian and Frankie Valli and their similar sounding falsetto's. Was there ever any real rivalry?
I think the liner notes in the two-fer mention this too, but back then the Four Seasons were one of the biggest rivals of The Beach Boys (in terms of succes), something that one forgets nowadays very easily as the BBs turned out to be bigger after the British Invasion. But I don't think that "Surfers rule" was meant in an evil way.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's musical abilities
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on: August 20, 2009, 04:10:04 AM
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Erik, I think Robert Johnson's authorship of the songs he recorded is an open question in many cases. With a lot of blues stuff you just go back to the earliest known recorded version of the song, or printed reference to it, or whatever. 1936 is usually far enough back to take the cake, but who knows where the song was before that? I think I've seen "Dust My Broom" credited to Elmore James, even though Johnson's version is twenty years older than the James version I have, and I think the Rolling Stones' "Love In Vain" was just listed as a traditional arranged by them at some stage, not sure, and "Crossroads" by Clapton may have been credited as traditional as well.
Yeah, true. Some of Johnson's songs were based on other blues songs.
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike's musical abilities
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on: August 18, 2009, 04:59:42 AM
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This begs the question- if he indeed writes songs, what instrument does his use to write them? Guitar? Piano?
I'd imagine it is hard to write a song using a saxophone, so I'd rule that one out.
Maybe he didn't use instruments, just his voice. Joe Meek (legendary British producer) wrote several hit songs and he couldn't play any instrument at all. When he learned a song to a band he just hummed it. So it is possible. Yes, I believe Mike said in an interview that he hummed the melody to Carl who then looked for the chords on the guitar (or maybe piano) Regarding "Let the wind blow": I'd really like to know how much Mike did and how much Brian. It's a fantastic song. The words are really great and the music is fitting. But I have a concert recording where Mike introduces this song as "a prayer that Brian put music to". And somewhere else I heard that Brian changed the melody a little, wrote the chords and did the arrangement, wich to me sounds like Mike just had an idea (plus the lyrics) but not much more than that
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Mike Love Concert Caustic Comment and Comedy Thread.
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on: August 15, 2009, 02:17:00 AM
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In the early 70s, Bruce used to talk to the audience a lot, too.
All I ever seem to have heard Bruce saying on stage are the albums on which the particular song is. Plus "We're going to Kokomo!" Mike's goofines surely had some charm in the beginning, but as they became older and almost hip, it just was terrible imo. There's at least one review in the Badman-book that mentions this as disturbing, too. Nah, I really don't like most of his stage banter. There are some cool ones, though "Uncomfortable seat" anyone?
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Smiley Smile Stuff / General On Topic Discussions / Re: Concert Tonight
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on: August 14, 2009, 11:45:28 AM
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I think Sweet Insanity is a pretty big stinker, some of the songs like Hotter and Do You Have Any Regrets even give me the creeps,
I think "Do you have any regrets" is awesome. Not just one of the better takes from SI but also one of Brian's best from the solo years imo
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Non Smiley Smile Stuff / Smiley Smilers Who Make Music / Re: Five new demos
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on: August 13, 2009, 04:48:02 PM
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Haven't listened to everything, but here are some impressions:
"Albany" : The slow parts are quite similar to "Knockin' on heaven's door" . Since it's not in the best sound quality, I couldn't understand all the words, but I think I like 'em.
"Bad breath" : I think it's a funny song. In fact I don't know a song with this topic.
"Back to winter" : Sounds too similar to the other stuff imho
"Glasses" : There are some heavy "pops" in there.
"Jar of honey" : I kinda like this as a song.
"Coda" : Now that is something that clicks with me, but maybe you should work a little more on the songs. They sound a little unfinished. From what I've heard "Coda" has the most potential imho. Work on this, arrange it a little and give it some structure. You don't need to have more than a guitar to make it sound interesing, but you have to know how to use it.
You should try to use another way of recording. Try multitrack-recording. If you play guitar and sing live (that's how it seems to have been recorded when listening on my boxes) you can't concentrate enough on your playing or singing. It's quite simple nowadays with garageband, etc. And try to work on your singing or you won't get above Dylan's level. Be sure to get all the notes and concentrate on hitting them.
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